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Matrim55 said:
The funny thing is that the only way realignment was really going to work out for them was if we came along, too. UConn/Syracuse is (was) a brand rivalry with local and national cache. ESPN puts it in a national time slot and builds a day of programming around it, mythologizes it b/c it's got history and juice. That resonates.

Without us Syracuse is, at best, the 4th-most interesting team on anybody in the ACC's calendar. Same goes for Pitt, except replace "4th" with "8th."

Can't wait for the SEC to take Clemson, Miami, Duke, UNC & FSU in a few years and for the ACC to blow up. Gonna be interesting to see where the pieces fall after that.
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Back to the Big East they go
 
CL82 said:
I don’t treat the portal as an outlier. You asked for an explanation and I made my best guess. I think it’s likely.
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I'm with ya. Text can sound aggressive.
 
CL82 said:
I don’t think so. Ultimately, the Big Ten making $70,000,000+ per school annually allows them to build better facilities, and pay the best coaches more. Connecticut has buck that trend bye running its athletic department in the red by $53 million last year. That isn’t sustainable. Footballs share of that deficit was approximately $14 million, which means that $39 million of it was due to sports other than football.
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When the numbers come up for this year I’d love to see what the men’s basketball team spent Vs revenue it brought in. (I know Calhoun thought we made a profit on the dime back speech) We aren’t in the best place financially but I’m hoping mens basketball can be as sustainable as possible.
 
Their board is flat out the gift that keeps on giving. So much fun! Here is a quote about not wanting to watch the finals:

"JB was right when he said NCAABB is in a terrible place. NIL, one and done culture and me me me is killing NCAABB...imo. you cant have new players every year on every team and sustain fan support ...in any sport."

UCONN's starting 5 was SR, JR, JR, SO, FR. granted the SR was a transfer but hardly a 1 and done.

There was one person responsible for the lone title SU has. How many years did he play at SU? It is so entertaining it's not even fair.
 
gtcam said:
Take your freaking bat and go home
This person must be a total arsewipe
BUT I would love to sit next to him at the next UConn-Cuse game - if Cuse ever has the gonads to play UConn again. He is the type of fan I love to exchange pleasantries and kindly let him know that he knows zero.
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That guy is very angry
 
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CL82 said:
I don’t treat the portal as an outlier. You asked for an explanation and I made my best guess. I think it’s likely.
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I think the extra cv eligibility year helped too. I cant remember FAU's age, but SDSU was older than the houston rockets. that has to matter.

This is an outlier
 
Rocktheworld said:
My dream scenario:

BIG takes Pitt, Cuse, us, UVA, ND, UNC; hopefully KU

SEC takes VTech, Duke, Clemson, FSU, Miami, NC State; maybe WVU or Texas Tech

PAC12 absorbs some of the MWC (SDSU, Boise State, UNLV, maybe Fresno)

Big 12 absorbs some of the American (Houston, Memphis, maybe SMU), maybe takes Louisville
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UCONN needs the fans to support the football program much better, even if it is a losing team. BIG and SEC tolerate hoops football drives the bus and gets all the front seats. If UCONN wants in it needs to fill The Rent
 
Greg said:
UCONN needs the fans to support the football program much better, even if it is a losing team. BIG and SEC tolerate hoops football drives the bus and gets all the front seats. If UCONN wants in it needs to fill The Rent
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Yeah the BIG took Rutgers and Maryland for football

Don’t disagree about need for support but the support will come with interesting conference opponents. Nobody cared about playing Tulane and Tulsa. People will show up for BIG teams.
 
I don't think the passion is here for football. At the Syracuse game, the school that most UCONN fans hate, the stadium was mostly empty. A third of those in attendance wore Orange. It will be very hard to build a winner in the Big 10 with almost no D1 talent in your own state to recruit. Ithink UCONN should be happy being back in The Big East for hoops. Don't screw that up again for the pipe dream of D1 football. Connecticut, as a state can and will support NIL to bring in 10 or 12 basketball players. It will not support 80 football players. Ad for coach salaries there are plenty of good coaches, UCONN does not to pay in the top 50 in the country to get one.
 
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Yes, SU thinks about the Big East and CR, more so than some here believe. Everyone not in the P2 thinks about this sheet
syracusefan.com

Awful.

The last year we were in the Big East we had conference games against teams from: Wisconsin Indiana Ohio Illinois Florida Kentucky I'll say for the umpteenth time... we played 18 games in Syracuse, New York this past season. In 2003 we played 17 games in Syracuse, New York. In 1987 we...
syracusefan.com syracusefan.com

"We through we'd left Villanova and Connecticut behind but instead we are in their rear-view mirror.

"Going to another conference for more money pleases the bean counters but it doesn't help us competitively because the other teams in the new conference get the same money. Meanwhile, we've moved away from our base and I think that's impacted us in all three of our major sports. I predict that USC and UCLA will have a rough go of it in the Big Ten because a lot of the kids they normally recruit are going to want to stay on the west coast.

"I've bemoaned the fact that the most populous area of the country, (the Northeast) doesn't have a collegiate conference representing them. But I now realize they do- the Big East.

"I think the whole thing will be reshuffled again before too long when the Big 10 and the SEC create their super-conferences and we aren't in one. Then we'll have to join with those who were 'left behind' in a conference that makes more sense for us."
 
Greg said:
UCONN needs the fans to support the football program much better, even if it is a losing team. BIG and SEC tolerate hoops football drives the bus and gets all the front seats. If UCONN wants in it needs to fill The Rent
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The thing is, it went 500 in the regular season. I think Jim Mora is doing something special. People should climb on board now.. It’s going to be a great ride.
 
Greg said:
I don't think the passion is here for football. At the Syracuse game, the school that most UCONN fans hate, the stadium was mostly empty. A third of those in attendance wore Orange. It will be very hard to build a winner in the Big 10 with almost no D1 talent in your own state to recruit. Ithink UCONN should be happy being back in The Big East for hoops. Don't screw that up again for the pipe dream of D1 football. Connecticut, as a state can and will support NIL to bring in 10 or 12 basketball players. It will not support 80 football players. Ad for coach salaries there are plenty of good coaches, UCONN does not to pay in the top 50 in the country to get one.
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Your wrong about the football program if your winning the fans will come. It’s all about Mora coaching them up. Besides their better off being an independent.
 
CL82 said:
The thing is, it went 500 in the regular season. I think Jim Mora is doing something special. People should climb on board now.. It’s going to be a great ride.
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He’s done good in the transfer portal and there was no mass exodus of guys leaving and had 2 guys stay their Senior year when they most likely would’ve been draft picks this month.
 
Kolumbo said:
"I think the whole thing will be reshuffled again before too long when the Big 10 and the SEC create their super-conferences and we aren't in one. Then we'll have to join with those who were 'left behind' in a conference that makes more sense for us."
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I think this is exactly where it's all going. It's about to get very imbalanced with the SEC and BiG and a lot of schools are going to realize that they can't possibly compete at that level. They may not even want to. I don't profess to understand the details of the GORs, but assuming that it is in fact ironclad, this future may take another 10 years to completely unfold.

For fun I think about athletic departments like FSU and Clemson who must be losing their collective minds as the SEC and BiG run past them to the bank.
 
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temery said:
No problem, Buffalocuse. Incognito doesn't mean s h it. Between honeypot, and a few scripts, duplicate users are found eventually.
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Well I can't logout of my account there while on chrome so it just doesn't let me view. I sometimes have to use Safari.
 
Greg said:
I don't think the passion is here for football. At the Syracuse game, the school that most UCONN fans hate, the stadium was mostly empty. A third of those in attendance wore Orange. It will be very hard to build a winner in the Big 10 with almost no D1 talent in your own state to recruit. Ithink UCONN should be happy being back in The Big East for hoops. Don't screw that up again for the pipe dream of D1 football. Connecticut, as a state can and will support NIL to bring in 10 or 12 basketball players. It will not support 80 football players. Ad for coach salaries there are plenty of good coaches, UCONN does not to pay in the top 50 in the country to get one.
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I would disagree on passion for football and agree on the improbability a building a winning program in the Big 10.

I would love to see attendance anywhere else in the entire country if what happened to us with realignment and horrendous coaching.

You really think if say if an Illinois or Purdue got demoted to the MAC and then won 2 games a year for a decade their attendance wouldn't crater?
 
Greg said:
I don't think the passion is here for football. At the Syracuse game, the school that most UCONN fans hate, the stadium was mostly empty. A third of those in attendance wore Orange. It will be very hard to build a winner in the Big 10 with almost no D1 talent in your own state to recruit. Ithink UCONN should be happy being back in The Big East for hoops. Don't screw that up again for the pipe dream of D1 football. Connecticut, as a state can and will support NIL to bring in 10 or 12 basketball players. It will not support 80 football players. Ad for coach salaries there are plenty of good coaches, UCONN does not to pay in the top 50 in the country to get one.
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In the Big East days, the stadium used to get a lot more fans. Hard to build given their independent status.

Also, realize that most schools have the advantage of an on stadium campus where 20,000 seats are filled by that fact alone.
 
Can we stay on task here?

Cuse is trending to become irrelevant if they haven’t already. They finished a game above BC. B-Frickin’-C. They PAY CELEBS TO COME TO THEIR GAMES! We have Aaron Jones and Bill Murray all over the media with UCONN gear. Hurley has the same amount of titles as Boeheim in 1/100 of the time
 
Scoe said:
Your wrong about the football program if your winning the fans will come. It’s all about Mora coaching them up. Besides their better off being an independent.
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Getting paid to go on the road is easy. Problem with being Indy is getting decent teams to come to CT and boost attendance
 
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Greg said:
I don't think the passion is here for football. At the Syracuse game, the school that most UCONN fans hate, the stadium was mostly empty. A third of those in attendance wore Orange. It will be very hard to build a winner in the Big 10 with almost no D1 talent in your own state to recruit. Ithink UCONN should be happy being back in The Big East for hoops. Don't screw that up again for the pipe dream of D1 football. Connecticut, as a state can and will support NIL to bring in 10 or 12 basketball players. It will not support 80 football players. Ad for coach salaries there are plenty of good coaches, UCONN does not to pay in the top 50 in the country to get one.
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Our attendance and fan support was the same here as anywhere else before the AD took a bat to it's knees. 35-40k in the stands was normal for even a half decent D1 opponent. It would have grown by more if not for the worst possible downward spiral anyone could have imagined.

During the last years of Ollie, and the first of Dan Hurley, the basketball attendance/fan support were terrible. We saw record low attendance. It was a pretty common topic here on the BY. It can happen to anyone who isn't at least competitive. It has nothing to do with people in CT just not caring for football.

The program won (iirc) 11 games over the 5 years before the 22 season. LSU fans wouldn't have showed under those circumstances either. And it wasn't just the lack of wins... it was the way it happened. Most games it looked like they couldnt get a snap off. It was like 3 year olds playing against the baltimore ravens. It wasnt just losses, it was losses to terrible teams by 35 points. No program could have survived that without taking a huge hit in support.

All they need to do is win a few games for a couple years in a row. Just be competent for a couple years, and it will be similar to before. We are not unique here. We will support our teams more when they win than when they lose...and almost none when they are the worst team in the country by a large margin (which we were).
 
ibleedhuskyblue said:
Our attendance and fan support was the same here as anywhere else before the AD took a bat to it's knees. 35-40k in the stands was normal for even a half decent D1 opponent. It would have grown by more if not for the worst possible downward spiral anyone could have imagined.

During the last years of Ollie, and the first of Dan Hurley, the basketball attendance/fan support were terrible. We saw record low attendance. It was a pretty common topic here on the BY. It can happen to anyone who isn't at least competitive. It has nothing to do with people in CT just not caring for football.

The program won (iirc) 11 games over the 5 years before the 22 season. LSU fans wouldn't have showed under those circumstances either. And it wasn't just the lack of wins... it was the way it happened. Most games it looked like they couldnt get a snap off. It was like 3 year olds playing against the baltimore ravens. It wasnt just losses, it was losses to terrible teams by 35 points. No program could have survived that without taking a huge hit in support.

All they need to do is win a few games for a couple years in a row. Just be competent for a couple years, and it will be similar to before. We are not unique here. We will support our teams more when they win than when they lose...and almost none when they are the worst team in the country by a large margin (which we were).
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Well said. UConn Football before last year with Jim Mora, well, was really downright horrendous and unwatchable. We all want to see them win, but the games were not competitive and were over after the 1st qtr with UConn trailing by 3 possessions.
 
RichCTBB said:
Circling back to how pathetically irrelevant Syracuse has become in the landscape of basketball, I have a strong gut feeling that Alex Karaban will surpass Syracuse and Jim Boeheim in titles.
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As will Emmett Hendry.

Think about what a kick in the pants that will be.

(no offense intended Emmett, since i know you spend much of your free time lurking on the yard)
 
uconndogs said:
I think this is exactly where it's all going. It's about to get very imbalanced with the SEC and BiG and a lot of schools are going to realize that they can't possibly compete at that level. They may not even want to. I don't profess to understand the details of the GORs, but assuming that it is in fact ironclad, this future may take another 10 years to completely unfold.

For fun I think about athletic departments like FSU and Clemson who must be losing their collective minds as the SEC and BiG run past them to the bank.
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Even with the large disparity between the conferences, I think the competition will still be there. 130 football programs with 100 players each, those kids have to go somewhere and the P2 can only take so many. Troy finished ranked this year. Sure FSU and Clemson will be frustrated but everyone else will still enjoy being in competitive conferences. Or Indie.
 
NJHusky said:
Getting paid to go on the road is easy. Problem with being Indy is getting decent teams to come to CT and boost attendance
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Will have its challenges but their better being independent then being in the AAC. Big East is best for all our other sports while football is independent, as the raiding of other conferences continues.
 
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