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Official: Hurley tells UK, NOPE

Regarding Bags of Cash. Anyone can go to Kentucky and you just don't know how it will pan out. Whatever Calipari was, he had a pretty good track record and they still hated him.

Dan Hurley is gold in Connecticut. He is only 6 years in and walks on water. He is the hottest coach in the country and is only getting started. Outside of salary, there are endorsements. There are speaking engagements. Consulting gigs. Books. His earning potential is immeasurable right now and has a much greater chance of growing here in Connecticut than leaving.

Nevertheless, the kentucky clowns obsessed with cash, just priceless.
And that's what these idiot Kentucky fans couldn't get through their thick heads, not all of their fans to be fair, but the ones on that particular forum. Hurley has not just won one championship, but back to back at a prestigious elite basketball program, blue blood, new blood, whatever. Winning at Kentucky wasn't going to make him feel any better. He is going to make more money with a raise, which he and the staff deserve and have earned, and all those other opportunities you just mentioned.

Why would he ever consider going to Kentucky for a more lucrative contract and be under the gun of that pressure cooker. He wouldn't be able to rebuild that program the way he wants in his mold because that fanbase has no patience and would want his blood if he didn't win it all immediately. Then he would risk having his reputation tarnished on some level if he had to flee like Calipari did.
 
Called it
Except they CHOSE Mark Pope, they didn’t get stuck with him. I think he’s a good coach, but this is so below UKs standards. We can make fun all we want, but this historically has been a top 4 job, and still is a top 6 job.

NIL has shockingly stabilized tier 2&3 coaching gigs, because you can always just “reload.”

Tier 1 programs are fighting with many more sharks in the water now.

The timing of the Hurley hire could go down as truly a miracle. Got him right before NIL becomes a thing, and he has soared our program to the top of the sport just at the time where everyone is now competing on a much more even playing field.
 
“Winning back-to-back championships in 6 years and then telling Kentucky to pound sand” is so far beyond the best-case scenario when UConn hired Hurley, I can’t even wrap my head around it.

We were coming off a sub-500 season where we lost to Arkansas by 35 on a neutral court!

Also, Hurley turning down $100/8 to stay at UConn just made the KO payout (to get Hurley) look like a rounding error.
 
the amount of copium being huffed over on their forum is hilarious. they're gonna get stuck with mark pope!
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UK really hasn’t been relevant since the 1990’s save the one year they won a championship with AD.
I wish that were true, but it is not. They were undefeated in the Final Four in 2015. Basically from 2010-2017 or so, they were always among the top basketball stories because they had all the top prospects. The Wall-Cousins team, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2015 were all headline years.

I'm very happy they hired Pope. He's a good coach and may do well there, but he's well beneath what they think they deserve, and so the hire is already in some ways a disaster. Chasing Cal out will also likely be seen as a disaster and a reason they couldn't get a bigger hire.
 
This Kentucky coaching search shows how much the world has changed with NIL and the Portal. 5 years ago, if they ran Calipari off they could find the next dirtbag in waiting to take over their Blue Blood program and out spend everyone else on recruits.

Today, recruiting is 10x more complex than just passing out bags of cash to the burger boys. It has passed Calipari by, and a lot of other coaches too. Being a Blue Blood barely matters now, and teams are winning with men rather than boys.

At least 5 coaches turned down Kentucky, and for all we know, Kentucky back channeled the Beard and Smart level of candidates and found no interest there too. There are many schools that pay their coaches well. Why go to Kentucky with it’s demented fan base if Kentucky doesn’t really have any inherent competitive advantage anymore?

I think the Blue Blood Club membership is closed, possibly forever. No school will ever win 6 championships in 26 seasons again. Talent is too fragmented and the competition is too intense for it. Older players that stay for NIL will have a bigger impact. There will continue to be innovations like Luke Murray’s offense which will make it possible for teams to win without multiple future NBA superstars.

Unless college sports gets blown up by a money grab by the P2, I think basketball will look more like the NFL going forward, where many teams have a shot to win it over time.
 
There are some good KY fans, but holy Moses this is a bad look for them.
There are a lot of really bad ones. Some of them think Dan WANTS to go but is being held back by his wife and recommending he should divorce her because he could always "find another wife down here with all that money". Their words. This is the same fanbase who harassed their point guard Smith, sent threats to refs, doxed other refs and tried in vain to sabotage one refs business, stalked one coach at a Mexican restaurant a few days ago, and were on coach cals lawn after Oakland to the point where cops had to be called. Who wants to deal with that nonsense? They already have relevant phone numbers posted and are encouraging others to call and leave voice mails to complain about the hiring. It's all creepy and indefensible.
 
This is the same fanbase who harassed their point guard Smith, sent threats to refs, doxed other refs and tried in vain to sabotage one refs business, stalked one coach at a Mexican restaurant a few days ago, and were on coach cals lawn after Oakland to the point where cops had to be called. Who wants to deal with that nonsense?
Yeah, my guess is that Drew had every intention of taking that job until the started stalking him and his family.

You don't send your family on a private jet to Lexington to scope out real estate if you aren't planning to take that job.
 
Kentucky is hiring Pope. But c'mon guys. Don't let that stop you. Tell us how afraid you are that it's a fake out and a trap and they will still offer Hurley the keys to Fort Knox.

 
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Kentucky is hiring Pope. But c'mon guys. Don't let that stop you. Tell us how afraid you are that it's a fake out and a trap and they will still offer Hurley the keys to Fort Knox.


given that this site still seems to think flagg will reneg on his duke offer and come to uconn....
 
There are a lot of really bad ones. Some of them think Dan WANTS to go but is being held back by his wife and recommending he should divorce her because he could always "find another wife down here with all that money". Their words. This is the same fanbase who harassed their point guard Smith, sent threats to refs, doxed other refs and tried in vain to sabotage one refs business, stalked one coach at a Mexican restaurant a few days ago, and were on coach cals lawn after Oakland to the point where cops had to be called. Who wants to deal with that nonsense? They already have relevant phone numbers posted and are encouraging others to call and leave voice mails to complain about the hiring. It's all creepy and indefensible.
This is what I was saying earlier in this thread in post #243. If you are a highly successful coach like Hurley (best coach in the country IMO), Nate Oats, Scott Drew, or someone else, there really isn't enough money in the world to leave your great situation to take on a Kentucky coaching job

Kolumbo said:
Regarding Bags of Cash. Anyone can go to Kentucky and you just don't know how it will pan out. Whatever Calipari was, he had a pretty good track record and they still hated him.

Dan Hurley is gold in Connecticut. He is only 6 years in and walks on water. He is the hottest coach in the country and is only getting started. Outside of salary, there are endorsements. There are speaking engagements. Consulting gigs. Books. His earning potential is immeasurable right now and has a much greater chance of growing here in Connecticut than leaving.

Nevertheless, the kentucky clowns obsessed with cash, just priceless.


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And that's what these idiot Kentucky fans couldn't get through their thick heads, not all of their fans to be fair, but the ones on that particular forum. Hurley has not just won one championship, but back to back at a prestigious elite basketball program, blue blood, new blood, whatever. Winning at Kentucky wasn't going to make him feel any better. He is going to make more money with a raise, which he and the staff deserve and have earned, and all those other opportunities you just mentioned.

Why would he ever consider going to Kentucky for a more lucrative contract and be under the gun of that pressure cooker. He wouldn't be able to rebuild that program the way he wants in his mold because that fanbase has no patience and would want his blood if he didn't win it all immediately. Then he would risk having his reputation tarnished on some level if he had to flee like Calipari did.
 

I love this guy!

Here at UConn, obviously you want your staff to be rewarded. You want the university to double down on the investments, so we can stay at the top of the mountain. So, your agent tells you with the media — basically, try not to say no without saying no. Be evasive as possible so you don't hurt his ability to get the things that he needs at UConn, to just be totally honest."
"I told them very early on that I have no interest — my wife, my family — we have no interest. Why would you leave the current best program in the country? Why would you leave the best program to go somewhere else?"
 
He hasn't said "absolutely never." Until he Hurley says absolutely never, he is leaving the door open to go to Kentucky. It's not a done deal. Kentucky could buyout the BYU guy if Hurley says yes.
 
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He hasn't said "absolutely never." Until he Hurley says absolutely never, he is leaving the door open to go to Kentucky. It's not a done deal. Kentucky could buyout the BYU guy if Hurley says yes.
Doomed!

But seriously, that's true of anyone at any job at any time. There's no such thing as "absolutely never." Hurley has said as much as anyone can meaningfully say about being happy in his job and having no plans or desire to leave.
 
If Brooklyn or the Knicks come calling I bet he'd take it. Otherwise I think UConn has its guy for the next decade at least.
 
Problem is we heard it before. Admittedly, not from him. But Randy Edsall said he would be at UConn for "as long as you'll have me."
And he didn’t leave at the first chance he got.

I also don’t see him coaching in the NBA anytime soon. They play no defense at all and he demands it! Throw in that he would require superstars to buy into the team first over personal stats. Not to mention that most them prima donna’s expect their asses to be kissed not pushed.
I’m not saying he couldn’t coach in the NBA , I just don’t see it as a fit . Just my opinion
 
Problem is we heard it before. Admittedly, not from him. But Randy Edsall said he would be at UConn for "as long as you'll have me."
Edsall wasn’t at the top of the sport. Who is Dan Hurley’s Maryland if he already turned down Kentucky
 
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Problem is we heard it before. Admittedly, not from him. But Randy Edsall said he would be at UConn for "as long as you'll have me."
You can't compare leaving UConn football for greener pastures to leaving UConn basketball....UConn BB is at the pinnacle of the sport for the past 30 years. No reason for Dan Hurley to leave UConn for another school...NBA a different story.
 


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-> In the meantime, there were overtures from Kentucky, which was looking to replace the departed John Calipari. That possibility was a non-starter, a no-chance from the get-go. Hurley, 52, made that clear to Kentucky. And on Saturday he made it clear that he will never coach another college basketball team.

“I had a conversation,” Hurley said inside the XL Center, after the rally. “You talk to your agent the whole year. You talk to him more later in the year. A lot of the conversations, he's just checking in with you. But he made me aware of that situation and my family and me and anything that comes forward, it's like, the only people you should be talking to is UConn. Because we have no desire to ever leave here to coach college basketball anywhere else.

Maybe down the road, you hope you can mature enough emotionally to, much later in my career, to try to take a shot at the NBA — down the road, way down the road. I'm not going to coach anywhere else in college, unless UConn doesn't want me here.” <-
 


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-> In the meantime, there were overtures from Kentucky, which was looking to replace the departed John Calipari. That possibility was a non-starter, a no-chance from the get-go. Hurley, 52, made that clear to Kentucky. And on Saturday he made it clear that he will never coach another college basketball team.

“I had a conversation,” Hurley said inside the XL Center, after the rally. “You talk to your agent the whole year. You talk to him more later in the year. A lot of the conversations, he's just checking in with you. But he made me aware of that situation and my family and me and anything that comes forward, it's like, the only people you should be talking to is UConn. Because we have no desire to ever leave here to coach college basketball anywhere else.

Maybe down the road, you hope you can mature enough emotionally to, much later in my career, to try to take a shot at the NBA — down the road, way down the road. I'm not going to coach anywhere else in college, unless UConn doesn't want me here.” <-

Probably late 50, early 60s, a decade give or take maybe he tries the Nets, Knicks or something like that if the opportunity arises.
 
Probably late 50, early 60s, a decade give or take maybe he tries the Nets, Knicks or something like that if the opportunity arises.
I don't know... I'd think the only way he does that is if he can take staff with him, like Luke and Andrew.

I do think it's quite likely he gets named coach of the US Nat'l Team in the near future. It'll be interesting to see how he fits that into his schedule/routine. And assuming he does get that gig, that'll inform him somewhat as to whether he wants the NBA and/or whether he thinks he could succeed there.
 
I don't know... I'd think the only way he does that is if he can take staff with him, like Luke and Andrew.

I do think it's quite likely he gets named coach of the US Nat'l Team in the near future. It'll be interesting to see how he fits that into his schedule/routine. And assuming he does get that gig, that'll inform him somewhat as to whether he wants the NBA and/or whether he thinks he could succeed there.
It'd be wise of him to take it if so, learning experience and he can get some kind of glimpse into what coaching in the nba could be like or the personalities he'd be dealing with and if it's for him.
 
Problem is we heard it before. Admittedly, not from him. But Randy Edsall said he would be at UConn for "as long as you'll have me."
Was that before or after his back-to-back National Championships?

Seriously, Edsall was making progress, but he was not a the pinnacle of his entire profession, nor is UConn an inappropriate setting for someone to be in that position.

If the college athletics landscape were to change so drastically that, for example, non-P2 schools literally could not longer compete at the very highest level, then if a highest level coach departed, it would make more sense to hate the shift in the sports setup than the departure of the coach.

A situation like that would be instantly and obviously recognizable. And yes, it would suck.

But the Edsall example does not apply, even if it felt awful when he leftatva key ascending juncture Surely, you must recognize the distinction.
 
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