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NYT "Maps" on Shifting Conference Alignment

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You know it is actually painful to look at the map of the Big East. Only three northeast schools and two of them are in the mid atlantic states.
 
Half of the conference might be west of the Mississippi soon. :rolleyes: The 2013 Big East is not bad, at all. The idea of FOUR schools in North Carolina sucks, anyway. We'd be traveling to MUCH better places than in the ACC. Syracuse? Three schools in the same metropolis in NC? I can actually see Old Dominion developing a good athletic department in the future. ODU football is developing very fast, as is. They do have a women's bball NCAA championship. They are also alone in that market. Hard to believe schools such as Old Dominion and UTSA are popping out of nowhere. UTSA is another good option for the future. Some options are developing if any schools leave.
 
Looking at the map, I noticed we can actually form our own conference. Call me crazy if you want, but here's what I got so far:

UConn
Rutgers
ODU
UMass
Temple
UCF
USF
Louisville
Cincinnati
Memphis
ND - few FB games a year against the conference and bball only? If I am correct, they do have the most conference championships in all sports since the last ACC raid. Louisville is second and UConn is third.

More possibilities:

Buffalo - when Bills leave
South Alabama
UTSA
SMU
UH

These schools clearly have a higher market potential than the ACC. UTSA somehow even drew very well in football. Hope the B1G and SEC raids the ACC. :D If that happens, we can easily create a superior conference and maybe lure ACC schools.
 
junglehusky said:
The key to poaching ACC schools is UTSA? I'll have some of what you're smoking!

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I didn't say we should bring in UTSA before ACC schools. UTSA averaged 35,521 in it's first year in existence as an FCS program! Everyone else they played, besides McNeese State (11,463), drew less than 10,000. And no, not passing the pipe.
 
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Everyone should relax a little. What is being missed in this map analysis is the fact that it is ONLY talking about football. In every other sport, add Rhode Island, Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, New York again (we don't lose them just because of Syracuse since we have St. Johns), Maryland in 2015, and add higher team density in New Jersey and Philadelphia. Starting to look a little more "eastern" now?? Good.

Someone should actually make an accurate map of what the Big East looks like, so as not to cause concern with its fans... :confused:

(Also, won't it be nice to add Utah and Colorado when BYU and come to football? I think it will!)
 
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UTSA, SanJose and UNLV are going to be players as Regional Sports takes over.

Comcast snaked Fox Sportsnet Houston for their pro teams in MLB and NBA.

San Antonio is now rolled into Fox Dallas. There would be room there for SMU and UTSA to create a Comcast SA with The Spurs and yet to be named MLB or NFL team. San Antonio is on the short list for expansion with population growth. That MSA will add another 750,000 by the end of the next contract and will likely have an NFL or MLB team or both.

These are the dynamics of a new contract. Rapidly expanding Southern Regional Sports Networks owned by pro-teams in concert with Fox or NBC/Comcast.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Oh, dear God, my head hurts!! :confused: Also, it's comical that they believe BCU controls that much land in New England...
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"Control" might be too strong. More like BC's 0.2% mindshare beats UConn's 0.19% mindshare, Notre Dame's 0.18% mindshare, Michigan's 0.17% mindshare, Ohio State's 0.16% mindshare, and Penn State's 0.15%.
 
pj said:
"Control" might be too strong. More like BC's 0.2% mindshare beats UConn's 0.19% mindshare, Notre Dame's 0.18% mindshare, Michigan's 0.17% mindshare, Ohio State's 0.16% mindshare, and Penn State's 0.15%.
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Well, if we are going by mindshare, I'm pretty sure that Notre Dame still has the edge on them, even in Boston...
 
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UConnDan97 said:
Well, if we are going by mindshare, I'm pretty sure that Notre Dame still has the edge on them, even in Boston...
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Heh. Notre Dame gets a sliver of land in northern Indiana. Michigan gets only eastern Michigan. Yet they are two of the top 5 programs nationally. If the map were adequate, the big 5-6 programs would dominate the country.
 
pj said:
Heh. Notre Dame gets a sliver of land in northern Indiana. Michigan gets only eastern Michigan. Yet they are two of the top 5 programs nationally. If the map were adequate, the big 5-6 programs would dominate the country.
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I feel like someone should re-do this type of map, but with "circles of influence" rather than taking over an entire state or half a state. It would be tough as hell to do, but it would be interesting to see...
 
All the NYT's map says to me is that we need our next round of bowl agreements to include the Holiday Bowl, Houston, Dallas, Tampa, Orlando, the Pinstripe Bowl, and the Liberty Bowl
 
SubbaBub said:
All the NYT's map says to me is that we need our next round of bowl agreements to include the Holiday Bowl, Houston, Dallas, Tampa, Orlando, the Pinstripe Bowl, and the Liberty Bowl
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Yep. None of which are driveable from Ct (except for nyc) but all of which are straight flights.

Bowl lineup should concentrate on strengthening the Pinstripe and shoring up bowls in Tampa, Orlando, Dallas, Houston and a West Coast Bowl.
 
Butchy said:
Looking at the map, I noticed we can actually form our own conference. Call me crazy if you want, but here's what I got so far:

UConn
Rutgers
ODU
UMass
Temple
UCF
USF
Louisville
Cincinnati
Memphis
ND - few FB games a year against the conference and bball only? If I am correct, they do have the most conference championships in all sports since the last ACC raid. Louisville is second and UConn is third.

More possibilities:

Buffalo - when Bills leave
South Alabama
UTSA
SMU
UH

These schools clearly have a higher market potential than the ACC. UTSA somehow even drew very well in football. Hope the B1G and SEC raids the ACC. :D If that happens, we can easily create a superior conference and maybe lure ACC schools.
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'...lure ACC schools...'

Now that is down right hysterical. I almost wet my pants laughing when I read that.

'lure ACC schools' I crack up each time I read it.
 
observer said:
'...lure ACC schools...'

Now that is down right hysterical. I almost wet my pants laughing when I read that.

'lure ACC schools' I crack up each time I read it.
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When the B1G and SEC raids, you'll be crying. Which you constantly do here anyway.

You wet your pants without going to bed? That's unfortunate. Maybe you should see a shrink.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
I feel like someone should re-do this type of map, but with "circles of influence" rather than taking over an entire state or half a state. It would be tough as hell to do, but it would be interesting to see...
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Then you'll see that Maine (95% of their citizens would think of Black Bears Hockey), New Hampshire (mostly hockey again) and Vermont (LIBERAL/Socialist politics :) for most of them) would NOT be thinking BC football. Western Mass would be thinking of UMass football, while most of Eastern Mass would be thinking of the RED SOX Season and what went wrong (and the rest would be thinking of the Bruins, Pats or Celtics), most of Connecticut citizens would be thinking of UConn WBB (except New Haven whee they are still fuming over the '68 Yale-Harvard game) and RI would be thinking URI has a FB team?? :)
 
HuskeyDogArt said:
Then you'll see that Maine (95% of their citizens would think of Black Bears Hockey), New Hampshire (mostly hockey again) and Vermont (LIBERAL/Socialist politics :) for most of them) would NOT be thinking BC football. Western Mass would be thinking of UMass football, while most of Eastern Mass would be thinking of the RED SOX Season and what went wrong (and the rest would be thinking of the Bruins, Pats or Celtics), most of Connecticut citizens would be thinking of UConn WBB (except New Haven whee they are still fuming over the '68 Yale-Harvard game) and RI would be thinking URI has a FB team?? :)
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Thank goodness you left out of it.
 
Key phrase from the NYT NBE Map:

Temple is one of seven universities set to join the Big East over the next two years. Four have at least one double-digit loss season since 2006.

Not exactly the cream of the crop.
 
observer said:
Key phrase from the NYT NBE Map:

Temple is one of seven universities set to join the Big East over the next two years. Four have at least one double-digit loss season since 2006.

Not exactly the cream of the crop.
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The NBE is not exactly the #1 conference!!
 
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Why couldn't the Big Ten get aggressive and add UConn, Rutgers, Louisville and Cinci? That would get them to 16 and they could divide into a East Division and Central Division:

East:
UConn
Rutgers
Cinci
Louisville
PSU
OSU
Michigan
Michigan State

Central:
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Indiana
Purdue
Iowa
Missouri
Northwestern
Illinois

There, done. Great conference that can compete with the SEC and ACC. It expands their presence to the east coast and the NYC market.
 
Huskymaniac said:
Why couldn't the Big Ten get aggressive and add UConn, Rutgers, Louisville and Cinci? That would get them to 16 and they could divide into a East Division and Central Division:

East:
UConn
Rutgers
Cinci
Louisville
PSU
OSU
Michigan
Michigan State

Central:
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Indiana
Purdue
Iowa
Missouri
Northwestern
Illinois

There, done. Great conference that can compete with the SEC and ACC. It expands their presence to the east coast and the NYC market.
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Do you have any juice to get it done?
 
tosu never lets cincy in
academics never let lville in

the b10 with nd now gone can go to work to get to 16. 4 of ist/kan/kst/ok/okst/mizzu/rutgers/uva/md will be the answer. the b10 will not let the b12 move first as they already have a limited amount of teams they can go after. if the b12 gets any stronger, the b10 may not be able to get a kansas or ok type. they now have to act.

my guess is rutgers/kansas/kst/ist to the b10. its 2 over lap markets but you fdont get kansas without the brother. ist just locks up turf basically and alows the b10 to go to east/west yadayada. the $$ is about the same per team so its not a impressive add but it gets the b10 netowrk more tvs and the league at 16 and 1 of the big 4 for life. now the b12 can act to get to b16 which they own name wise. they can also now do east/west. byu/fsu/clem is only the start of this...
 
And they don't consider UConn why?

I don't see what Iowa State buys them. You don't need to lock up turf, just get a foothold. And Missouri won't leave the SEC. I could see Kansas and I don't think they HAVE to take K State too. Oklahoma, maybe. I could see no Cinci since they already have OSU. Rutgers and UConn gives them NYC and a strong eastern presence. I don't see Louisville academics as a major issue. So maybe you grab Kansas instead of Cinci. It will be tough to sell Oklahoma on a move to the B10, I think. If you can, then maybe Kansas and Oklahoma with UConn and Rutgers.
 
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