2024 Recruiting: Nowell - 24/7 Rankings

[upstater]

I don't understand the implication that anyone needs to "get in the weight room". 1) weight gain happens in the dining hall, 2) all our guys are in the weight room diligently. This isn't 1974.

AK going pro is unlikely unless he's comfortable going 2nd round IMO. Not athletic enough.

Are you referring to my post on Samson? I don't think Samson is strong enough to be a defensive anchor. Hilton's play changed dramatically in between his soph. and junior seasons. He still looked as skinny as ever but he had muscular definition then in the legs and upper body.

 

[husky429]

Are you referring to my post on Samson? I don't think Samson is strong enough to be a defensive anchor. Hilton's play changed dramatically in between his soph. and junior seasons. He still looked as skinny as ever but he had muscular definition then in the legs and upper body.

Of course Samson isn't strong enough. And the weight room has little to do with it. Genetics and diet are the limiting factors here.

 

[upstater]

Of course Samson isn't strong enough. And the weight room has little to do with it. Genetics and diet are the limiting factors here.

Well, then, Hilton not only grew 9 inches senior year of high school and college, but he was a genetic freak who added some incredible muscle definition.

 

[husky429]

Well, then, Hilton not only grew 9 inches senior year of high school and college, but he was a genetic freak who added some incredible muscle definition.

What point are you trying to make? Do you think Samson doesn't lift? Or Hilton didn't lift until he gained weight?

That's not how it works. He changed his diet, and maybe took drugs.

 

[upstater]

What point are you trying to make? Do you think Samson doesn't lift? Or Hilton didn't lift until he gained weight?

That's not how it works. He changed his diet, and maybe took drugs.

Wow-- unreal.

 

[husky429]

Wow-- unreal.

Still waiting for the point you're trying to make.

Because as of now, you seem to think that Samson doesn't lift enough and that's the solution to him gaining weight. It's odd. Do you think Hurley allowed him to skip his scheduled workouts?

Are you upset I said Hilton may have taken drugs? I doubt it, though it's possible. If he wasn't a D1 athlete with a strength coach and dietician I would've guaranteed it. His weight gain is practically unheard of natty. Some folks are just weird just pack on muscle as soon as they hit a certain age and eat a bunch.

 

[UConnJim]

I looked back at the UConn players with similar body types as Johnson. It's typical for a player to gain 20 to 25 lbs during their career and as of now (based on roster listing), Johnson has gained 20 lbs which is within the norm. You have to remember, Johnson was brought to UConn as a stretch 4, not as an inside banger as he doesn't have banger body type.

Some UConn weight gains:

Johnson: 205 to 225 lbs.
Brimah: 217 to 232 lbs.
Akok: 193 to 225 lbs (this year at WVU)\
Armstrong: 210 to 235 lbs.
Whaley: 190 to 225 lbs.
Facey: 200 to 227 lbs.
Nolan: 203 to 230 lbs.
Daniels: 195 to 195 lbs.

 

[bendm]

Getting a strong 5(portal)is key. .Johnson is not the answer as a starting 5 based on this year. Would love to add another portal shooting guard (like Spencer).. A strong bench 4/5 to "bang" off the boards would be great. Concerned about where we're going to get our Boards from next year.

if hurley bring in a starting 5 AND a bench big then he might as well bring in 2 bench bigs because samson would not be A happy camper...

Diarra----Nowell
Ball-------Ross
Transfer--Stewart
Karaban- Romeglou
Transfer- Samson

Bench: Transfer, Abraham, Singare

 

[Umami Zen]

if hurley bring in a starting 5 AND a bench big then he might as well bring in 2 bench bigs because samson would not be A happy camper...

Diarra----Nowell
Ball-------Ross
Transfer--Stewart
Karaban- Romeglou
Transfer- Samson

Bench: Transfer, Abraham, Singare

Unless Samson puts on some muscle(lower body) thru SnC this summer.. He can't hold position in the paint vs mature/strong 5s.. He's getting pushed all over the place now when trying to get in position for a rebound. He's great at verticality when there's limited physicality but if he's got to get in the paint and grind it out.. It's not working right now.

 

[Umami Zen]

if hurley bring in a starting 5 AND a bench big then he might as well bring in 2 bench bigs because samson would not be A happy camper...

Diarra----Nowell
Ball-------Ross
Transfer--Stewart
Karaban- Romeglou
Transfer- Samson

Bench: Transfer, Abraham, Singare

BTW.. I see Stewart being given the opportunity at starting at the 3 unless a stud 3 falls in our lap through the portal. See AK at the 4(next year) unless he does some crazy stuff in the Tournament. He could use another summer of SnC to work on explosion and fast twitch muscle development.

 

[bendm]

BTW.. I see Stewart being given the opportunity at starting at the 3 unless a stud 3 falls in our lap through the portal. See AK at the 4(next year) unless he does some crazy stuff in the Tournament. He could use another summer of SnC to work on explosion and fast twitch muscle development.

we cant just sit around waiting for a stud we need to go out and get 2 studs that can start! otherwise we probably arent even making the tourney...

 

[HailUConn]

if hurley bring in a starting 5 AND a bench big then he might as well bring in 2 bench bigs because samson would not be A happy camper...

Diarra----Nowell
Ball-------Ross
Transfer--Stewart
Karaban- Romeglou
Transfer- Samson

Bench: Transfer, Abraham, Singare

Samson is a puzzle to me. He still make some mistakes that make you scratch your head, more so on defense than on offense. Some times he just lost his man and stood in no mans land in defense. It made me cringe every time he set screen on the top because ref would call him when he stick his hips out. I have to think it’s a BBIQ thing, compare with AK, or even Cam who is transfer but mesh so quickly.

 

[navery12]

we cant just sit around waiting for a stud we need to go out and get 2 studs that can start! otherwise we probably arent even making the tourney...

Relax, let's not get carried away now...

 

[Umami Zen]

we cant just sit around waiting for a stud we need to go out and get 2 studs that can start! otherwise we probably arent even making the tourney...

You're killin' me. Guess I'm more optimistic than you. Let's see how things play out for the rest of the year before you jump off of the bridge. LOL

 

[HooperScooper]

we cant just sit around waiting for a stud we need to go out and get 2 studs that can start! otherwise we probably arent even making the tourney...

So are you assuming that none of the players coming back make big jumps in improvement? Seems that's never happened at UConn under Hurley in the last few years.

 

[HailUConn]

we cant just sit around waiting for a stud we need to go out and get 2 studs that can start! otherwise we probably arent even making the tourney...

Listening to all the media interviews that Hurley gave, you don’t get a deep sense that Hurley and his colleagues have designed solid plans to develop kids who committed to playing here and are actually following thru? I’ll give you one for there are many.

He said repeatedly before Providence game “ Castle has a next level that he can gets to, and we are trying to find ways to put him in best position to do that”. You saw what Castle did to providence…

 

[WeAreUCONN]

Only 2 things I'd change here... we need a starting-caliber big, not a backup.

And I suspect Abraham will play the 4 and Stewart will slide in at the 3. Not that those positions are really that different in our system and the two are the same size, but Abraham has exactly 0 SF skills and Stewart has all of them.

Karaban is not leaving…..

 

[Palatine]

Samson is a puzzle to me. He still make some mistakes that make you scratch your head, more so on defense than on offense. Some times he just lost his man and stood in no mans land in defense. It made me cringe every time he set screen on the top because ref would call him when he stick his hips out. I have to think it’s a BBIQ thing, compare with AK, or even Cam who is transfer but mesh so quickly.

Did you like Samson's steal and dribbling the court and dunking?

Samson needs to improve his defensive rebounding. That is where his lack of strength really hurts him. He needs to have stronger hands and rebound with both hands. But he will never be a rock like Sanogo. Samson is a fast twitch athlete. He will always be more quick than strong.

 

[Agent0]

I don't understand the implication that anyone needs to "get in the weight room". 1) weight gain happens in the dining hall, 2) all our guys are in the weight room diligently. This isn't 1974.

AK going pro is unlikely unless he's comfortable going 2nd round IMO. Not athletic enough.

AK is always going to be unathletic. I’ve always assumed he goes pro this year because next year he’ll still be unathletic and just another year older

 

[HailUConn]

Did you like Samson's steal and dribbling the court and dunking?

Samson needs to improve his defensive rebounding. That is where his lack of strength really hurts him. He needs to have stronger hands and rebound with both hands. But he will never be a rock like Sanogo. Samson is a fast twitch athlete. He will always be more quick than strong.

I get what you are saying and I’m not throwing shades at the kid.
But for what you said, He is also quick to foul, either sticking his hands or jumping when he absolutely don’t have to. He may be exciting to watch for some plays but also the one that make you shake your head in next. That just does not work in champion caliber team, not on Hurleys team. Listen, I love the kids who stick around the program and that speaks for their character. But that does not equate talent and level of plays expected as standard at UConn.

 

[JohnnyJr]

If Samson is our starting 5 next year we’d have to change our defensive philosophy which isn’t gonna happen. We need rim protection and rebounding from that spot.

 

[husky429]

Karaban is not leaving…..

Most likely. What's your point? Did you read the post I was responding to?

 

[husky429]

AK is always going to be unathletic. I’ve always assumed he goes pro this year because next year he’ll still be unathletic and just another year older

True. But you're assuming he CAN go to the league here. I doubt he'd be drafted.

 

[runner11]

AK is always going to be unathletic. I’ve always assumed he goes pro this year because next year he’ll still be unathletic and just another year older

You would think an attractive NIL package can help immensely if a guy isn’t liking at guaranteed money.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Would be cool if we could stay on topic here.

 

[WeAreUCONN]

Most likely. What's your point? Did you read the post I was responding to?

Well since Karaban will be here next year and plays 35 minutes a game. What’s the point of having Nowell play the 4, so he can play 5 minutes a game? Stewart has shown very little to make anyone think he’s going to get significant minutes at the 3, next year.

 

[husky429]

Well since Karaban will be here next year and plays 35 minutes a game. What’s the point of having Nowell play the 4, so he can play 5 minutes a game? Stewart has shown very little to make anyone think he’s going to get significant minutes at the 3, next year.

Alex doesn't play 35 a game now, and that's when we don't have a decent backup. Good effort though!

For one thing, Abraham is more of a 10mpg guy than a 20+ mpg guy. Stewart will be getting way more minutes next year.

Also, he handles the ball much better than a 4. Certainly better than Alex, so there's that.

 

[WeAreUCONN]

Alex doesn't play 35 a game now, and that's when we don't have a decent backup. Good effort though!

For one thing, Abraham is more of a 10mpg guy than a 20+ mpg guy. Stewart will be getting way more minutes next year.

Also, he handles the ball much better than a 4. Certainly better than Alex, so there's that.

I haven’t seen Stewart do anything better than Karaban. You’re saying Stewart is a better ball handler than Karaban? Based on what exactly??

 

[navery12]

 

[aceboon]

hopefully there will be a streaming option, in the past the Iverson Classic has been aligned with Showtime Sports/Basketball and have streamed it on their YT channel but Showtime Sports shut down it's operation at the end of 2023.