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whaler11 said:
Notre Dame did what every school in this league would do. It was Syracuse and Pitt who forced their hand. They could have left at any point - but they stuck around until they were left with no choice.

I don't get why people hate Notre Dame for doing the exact same thing UConn would have done.
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What's that, not join the Football part of the conference? Oh wait UConn did. Not give the Irish the time of day when the Huskies were National Champs in basketball. Oh wait, they were in a conference so they had to play them.
 
whaler11 said:
I can promise you with no doubt: no one in the Big East ever once thought Notre Dame would join in football. Commissioners, Assistant Commissioners, Secretaries, University Presidents, Athletic Directors... no one.
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Absolutely. As long as they could house all their other programs in a top flight conference without having their hand forced they most certainly were not gonna join for football. The question remains . . . what would ND have done all these years without a conference affiliation? Wonder if that vaunted ND women's basketball program would have been as good as an independent as it was as a rival to the UConn's women's teams.
 
Why is everyone blaming Notre Dame? Blame the Big East for inviting them!
I dont get it! They sign a contract and everyone wants them to do more.
Blame the Big East Commissioner at the time and all those Big East members (including us) who jumped at the chance to haver that name associated with us.
 
Given that the ACC has given them a similar deal, there seems no reason to denigrate the Big East - ND deal. It was probably mutually beneficial.
 
sportsart said:
Let's see...we beat ND at ND. ND beats OK at OK. Hence we beat OK at OK, right?

Oh wait...never mind.

It is wierd that just 3 years ago we beat ND in their house and now look at them and then look at us. Life is so unfair.
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If we had hired Brian Kelley and they had hired Paul Pasquolini, we'd be close to as good as them and they'd be close to as bad as us
 
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businesslawyer said:
If we had hired Brian Kelley and they had hired Paul Pasquolini, we'd be close to as good as them and they'd be close to as bad as us
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So in other words we shouldn't be expecting results like the second tour of Bill Snyder at KSU with the rehash of Syracuse 1990's that we are committed to. Next coach has to be one who is on the rise not just looking for work.
 
jdb50 said:
So in other words we shouldn't be expecting results like the second tour of Bill Snyder at KSU with the rehash of Syracuse 1990's that we are committed to. Next coach has to be one who is on the rise not just looking for work.
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I'm not sure how much of that is facetious and how much is meant literally, but if you're saying P wasn't a bad hire because bringing Snyder back wasn't a bad hire (i) as I said defending P by a blind comparison to Kent State, all situations are different, and (ii) I must have missed where Snyder was fired from K State and run out of town ahead of a posse because he had turned a good program into one that everyone around it could see was getting bad and about to get worse.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Is there a UConn board somewhere around here? This seems to be a Notre Dame board.
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You are currently in a thread. At the bottom or top of the screen, click the little button to get back to the UConn Football board, and you should find plenty of threads about Paul Pasqualoni.

Warning, though - you may be embarassed by some of the things you have written in them.
 
businesslawyer said:
I'm not sure how much of that is facetious and how much is meant literally, but if you're saying P wasn't a bad hire because bringing Snyder back wasn't a bad hire (i) as I said defending P by a blind comparison to Kent State, all situations are different, and (ii) I must have missed where Snyder was fired from K State and run out of town ahead of a posse because he had turned a good program into one that everyone around it could see was getting bad and about to get worse.
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Good point, BL. Snyder's record of 9-13 over his last two season of his first tour is RADICALLY different from PP's 12-13 record over his last two seasons at SU.

Snyder's last season, he finished last in the conference and all PP could do was tie for first in his last year at SU.

And with Snyder you had to go back 3 years to get a double digit win season and with PP, it was RADICALLY worse with you having to go back 3 season to get a double digit win season.

You right. Nothing even remotely similar here.

And course Snyder had immediate success, winning 6 games in his first year back, RADICALLY better than PP's 5 wins.
 
Sarcasm off.

Snyder is a better coach than PP. No doubt.

But Snyder is back to being Snyder, which is Calhoun-like. I don't expect PP to get to that level, but I do expect to see PP get to his normal level, which would be an upgrade at UCONN.
 
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sdhusky said:
Sarcasm off.

Snyder is a better coach than PP. No doubt.

But Snyder is back to being Snyder, which is Calhoun-like. I don't expect PP to get to that level, but I do expect to see PP get to his normal level, which would be an upgrade at UCONN.
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I'm curious as to how long you believe it should take for PP to get back to being,.. well,.... PP?
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I'm curious as to how long you believe it should take for PP to get back to being,.. well,.... PP?
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Took Snyder 4 seasons. (well, 6 if you include his last two years before he left)

I think PP will have us back in year 4.
 
businesslawyer said:
If we had hired Brian Kelley and they had hired Paul Pasquolini, we'd be close to as good as them and they'd be close to as bad as us
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And apparently, if you hire Edsall, you do worse than either.
 
sdhusky said:
Took Snyder 4 seasons. (well, 6 if you include his last two years before he left)

I think PP will have us back in year 4.
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Back to what, the Yankee Conference?
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Back to what, the Yankee Conference?
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Having trouble reading or comprehending. Look up about two posts

"I don't expect PP to get to that level, but I do expect to see PP get to his normal level, which would be an upgrade at UCONN."

Going back to the topic of this thread, I wonder how many of you would have been with the majority of fans on NDNation that wanted to see Kelly gone?
 
If Pasqualoni can't go 6-6 against this schedule then he should retire.
 
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Not an ND fan but for non football reasons I absolutely believed that Kelly should have been dismissed from his duties at ND a couple of years back. One thing that can be said about him is that (at least in his last three positions) he has made it clear almost immediately that he is a top football mind and knows exactly how to go about improving his team.

I hope you are correct that in two years we will be better off than we were at any time under RE (which would put us ahead of where we ever were in the past). I don't see it (as this train wreck appears to be headed towards a cliff) but I would be more than happy to state that I was wrong of what you profess does in fact happen.
 
If Pasqualoni is still here in two years, the the Edsall years will be the golden years of UConn football.
 
Snyder has brought K-State to levels our program has never been. But more relevant is his record in the first 2 seasons back at K-State after he took over a team that went 5-7 2-6 in conference. He went 6-6 4-4 and has gotten better each year since. There is no comparison unless we expect to run the table this year. Any takers? But that said he probably didn't fit the profile many here were looking for because of his age and the way he finished up his first tenure much like PP..
 
Jimdish255 said:
Any takers?
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I'm on record saying I can't predict that we'll win our 5th in a row without knowing who we''ll be playing in a bowl.
 
Sean said:
Do people seriously not remember the posts on this board about how Houston is better in football than Notre Dame?

I guess that's why its so easy for people to spout off pure idiocy on here - because they'll just pretend they didn't say it later on.
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I recall last year when Houston was better than Notre Dame. Is that what you mean?

ND is having a great season. But they have been for the most part irrelevant to the NC discussion for a long time. With their amount of talent, one might say they have been the most underachieving program the past 20 years.
 
Marty Jackson said:
I recall last year when Houston was better than Notre Dame. Is that what you mean?

ND is having a great season. But they have been for the most part irrelevant to the NC discussion for a long time. With their amount of talent, one might say they have been the most underachieving program the past 20 years.
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Here comes Clemson... and FL St
 
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Marty Jackson said:
I recall last year when Houston was better than Notre Dame. Is that what you mean?

ND is having a great season. But they have been for the most part irrelevant to the NC discussion for a long time. With their amount of talent, one might say they have been the most underachieving program the past 20 years.
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Yes. Last year a lot of people said that Houston was a better addition to the Big East than Notre Dame, and that all of us old codgers had to stop looking backward and start looking forward.
 
Sean said:
Yes. Last year a lot of people said that Houston was a better addition to the Big East than Notre Dame, and that all of us old codgers had to stop looking backward and start looking forward.
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Did they mean that Houston as an "all-sports" addition was better than ND without football? Or did they straight-up mean football? (I've been on board or lurking for about a full year now, but I have to be honest that I don't remember the "culprits").
 
Sean said:
Yes. Last year a lot of people said that Houston was a better addition to the Big East than Notre Dame, and that all of us old codgers had to stop looking backward and start looking forward.
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This is one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen No one said that.
 
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