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UConn to the Big10 along with Rutgers would make sense. Either that or stay in the Big East and run it like Gonzaga does in the WCC.
 
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They don't. the Big 10 is made up of major public universities. Only Northwestern is not one and for the most part they are odd man out. They are all huge institutions of varying quality, mostly good to excellent. All offer a wide array of graduate programs, I htink they all have medical schools and law schools...Notre Dame has 10,000 undergrads. Ohio state has 50,000. It really is closer to BC, Wake Forest, Miami than to anyone in the big 10.

Why are you looking at university commonalities when you should be looking at stuff relevant to athletics?

I mean, Notre Dame has more in common with U. San Francisco than it does U. Indiana (if you ignore geography) but that doesn't mean very much in this case. ND is a national brand. It's alumni are located largely in the Midwest. Chicago is a major pipeline as is Pennsylvania.

If I had to guess, it's a 50/50 proposition that ND joins the Big10 when it decides to go all in.
 

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Taking out academics and other things, how would you make the best ACC sports conference if you were the ACC?

I would add three teams in Georgetown, UConn and UL. You might be able to sub in Nova (non-football) for Georgetown but that's the only change. That would be a killer basketball conference and a decent addition in football with UConn and UL.

Almost a shame for this not to happen.

Duke, UNC, UConn, UL, Cuse are all top 10 basketball programs. Georgetown, NC State, Maryland, Pitt are all very good basketball programs. ND and FSU have been good recently. Then you have Miami, Clemson, BC, VTech, UVA, Wake and GTech.

For football, well it's still not great, but it's not a downgrade. It does give you two non-football schools, which is vexing, but it limits their influence to 1/9th rather than 1/8th. Shame it won't work financially, or academically (UL).

Even if you split the conference into two you end up with nice groups:

North:
UConn
Cuse
Pitt
BC
VTech
UVA
Maryland
UL
Gtown

South
UNC
Duke
Miami
FSU
Clemson
Wake
GTech
NCState
ND

I hate the ACC but that would be fun to watch.
 

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The ACC said they are sticking with 15 teams for basketball. So the ACC is pretty much out of the question unless they're working behind the scenes.
 

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The ACC said they are sticking with 15 teams for basketball. So the ACC is pretty much out of the question unless they're working behind the scenes.

They said the same at 12 and 14. Who knows? Maybe UConn should take over as the lead for BE expansion though.
 

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Your guess is as good as mine. I just don't understand why UConn is not assertive in its conference-realignment decisions.
 
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Screw them. Screw them and the ACC. I do not see them winning the ACC titles just as they do not win the Big East titles.
 
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Just my personal believe but, usually when Swofford says something, behind the scenes he is doing something else. Look how SU, Pitt left, now look how Notre Dame head of expansion committee, agreed to play 5 conference games, but wouldn't in Big East. I still believe UCONN ends up 16, and before the 5 yr lookin. This meeting of the minds didn't just happen in 2 months, someone on your expansion board said ND killed footbal split in 2004. They've wanted to get back to playing Miami,BC and now they will. They are preparing their Alumni for the full move to the ACC and UCONN fills the 16th spot.
 
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