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I can’t understand how she wasn’t on the hot seat last year. She had a team that looked like National Champions early in the season and it spectacularly fell apart at the end of the year. I think that letting ‘Hannah be Hannah’ was part of the problem, but it seems like the chemistry issues ran much deeper. She can’t control for the injury problems, but the exodus at the end of last year seems telling.
The biggest issue I have with Ivey has been her (or her offensive scheme's) inability (or lack of desire) to recruit quality bigs and help bigs thrive both as scorers and reboundersI can’t understand how she wasn’t on the hot seat last year. She had a team that looked like National Champions early in the season and it spectacularly fell apart at the end of the year. I think that letting ‘Hannah be Hannah’ was part of the problem, but it seems like the chemistry issues ran much deeper. She can’t control for the injury problems, but the exodus at the end of last year seems telling.
I think it’s nearly impossible to be the coach who follows a long time winner. Up until last year, I thought that Coach Ivey had done better than most in that role. Now, it seems that the honeymoon is over and I’m wondering if she has the skills for the current mess, which is at least partially her own doing.
I don't know enough about recruiting sites. Hoopgurl has Abii at 16, Ragone at 19 and Biles at 23. It's a solid class, but -at least by the high school evaluators- lacking a top 10 5 star player.If you look at recruiting, it seems to have cooled off, sort of.
Maybe not that much cooling off - pretty consistent with top 10 kids, but Miles left and she, Hidalgo, and Citron were their superstars. But none lately.
- 2021 she got Miles and Citron
- 2022 their highest was KK Bransford, in the 20's ranking
- 2023 Hidalgo, Prosper, and Risch, all top 20
- 2024 it was #5 Koval
- 2025 - Macy at #26 was the highest
- 2026 - #9 Alibi and then a bunch of 4* kids
In contrast to all those P4 coaches whose OOC schedule is loaded with cupcakes, Kara Lawson & Duke stand in stark contrast. Duke had a brutal OOC schedule, took some tough losses and was knocked out of the top 25. Now they’re rolling at 4-0 in the ACC and will likely find themselves back in the top 25 tomorrow.I am betting that Dillon may beat me to this post, however we had the game on, and although ND had 3 starters in DF, it was surprising that Duke had all 5. Wondering if this is a one off, or has Lawson figured out her team's offensive woes? Time will tell with the remainder of the ACC season.
I am betting that Dillon may beat me to this post, however we had the game on, and although ND had 3 starters in DF, it was surprising that Duke had all 5. Wondering if this is a one off, or has Lawson figured out her team's offensive woes? Time will tell with the remainder of the ACC season.
Actually the Irish have three bigs >= 6'3", all averaging over 25 minutes, nine points and five rebounds per game: Cass Prosper, 6'3" Mayala Cowles, and 6'4" Gisela Sanchez. Additionally, all three are shooting above 54% from the field.The biggest issue I have with Ivey has been her (or her offensive scheme's) inability (or lack of desire) to recruit quality bigs and help bigs thrive both as scorers and rebounders
This year's roster has two scholarship players over 6 feet, and one walk on who never plays.
UCONN and South Carolina's roster have 9 players over 6 feet [not sure how many walk ons] . This year, I only consider Cowles a true inside player. Last year, neither Karlen or Westbeld thrived in this offense inside. The year before only only Kylee Watson thrived as a big.
Compare this to the 2017-2018 National Chamionship team that had 7 players over 6 feet, two of which were true bigs and are still in the WNBA.
Next year, Ivey has 6'2" Leah Macy coming back from injury, 6'3" Cassandre Prosper presumably returning and is bringing in three 6'2" wings and one 6'3". Whether her offense thrives both outside and inside and whether Ivey's teams can or cannot compete with the heavyweight college basketball teams on both ends of the court is a huge question mark. I suspect she'll get at least two more years, if not three. I think ND is committed and has the money to be an elite woman's basketball team. Whether Ivey can get them there is up for debate, and it didn't help that she did a poor job with bigs in the portal, but she's not going anywhere. She is revered by Notre Dame's heirarchy.
Prosper doesn't play like a big. She's seen herself more as a guard when she came out of high school. I wouldn't put her in that category.Actually the Irish have three bigs >= 6'3", all averaging over 25 minutes, nine points and five rebounds per game: Cass Prosper, 6'3" Mayala Cowles, and 6'4" Gisela Sanchez. Additionally, all three are shooting above 54% from the field.
The ND problem isn't the bigs. The problem is committing the offense to a single player. And it will not get better next year if the Irish view all of the incoming talent as back-up to Hidalgo.
If you think prosper and Sanchez are "bigs" you and I have different definitions. Sanchez can hardly grab a rebound and hold onto it. Prosper is a slasher who is rarely on the block.Actually the Irish have three bigs >= 6'3", all averaging over 25 minutes, nine points and five rebounds per game: Cass Prosper, 6'3" Mayala Cowles, and 6'4" Gisela Sanchez. Additionally, all three are shooting above 54% from the field.
The ND problem isn't the bigs. The problem is committing the offense to a single player. And it will not get better next year if the Irish view all of the incoming talent as back-up to Hidalgo.
What talent? Beyond HH and Prosper, this is the least athletically talented team since the last McGraw team. We miss Bransford, but I'd rather bring in a real rebounder/inside scorer next year in the portal than have her for another year. She is too often injured and not a guard who can create her own shot.The Duke game went as expected. ND misses KK. The most concerning this is still ND's offense. Niele will not adjust to the talent she has. I don't expect a different offense to win these games, but it just shows Niele's lack of adjustments.it worries me for next year.
Yes, I guess we do.If you think prosper and Sanchez are "bigs" you and I have different definitions. Sanchez can hardly grab a rebound and hold onto it. Prosper is a slasher who is rarely on the block.
And ND isn't committed to one player, but she is indispenspible to us being decent, compared to bottom of the barrel.
I'm looking forward to beating UCONN again.Yes, I guess we do.
So, lemme get this straight: last year's Irish team implodes at the very end of the season catching Irish Nation by surprise and forcing NI and her staff to scramble finding players in the portal, and you think she should have done a better job of finding players to plug the hole in the USS Hannah Hidalgo?
Despite the fact that Notre Dame has three 6'3"+ players, who are each shooting over 53% from the field, the real issue is none of them suit an old-school back-to-the-basket definition of what a big is, correct?
Hence, the problem isn't that the offensive scheme runs almost exclusively through one offensive player, but rather that the supporting cast is missing the right mix of talent, correct?
Riddle me this: just what do you think is going to miraculously change next year when all of the seniors have departed? Do you believe a decent crop of incoming freshmen and another foray through the portal is going to result in a different approach?
I daresay the WCBB world is watching to see if NI and HH place the development of this year's team above attaining individual accolades, especially since the Irish are loaded with seniors this year. If they focus on the latter, it might be impossible to lure any level of portal talent to South Bend next year without breaking the
🤣I'm looking forward to beating UCONN again.
Good to hear from you, Defense BB and thanks for the interest. Some quick hitters, in no particular order:Welcome back @Dillon77 and I am sorry to hear your detour on the family issues and am happy to hear it seems to be resolved.
But as is my wont, am I allowed to note that the timing was impeccable that it allowed you to avoid the board during a rather tumultuous time and then have you noted you want to ignore that fact is also wanting me to direct a "sneer" at you, so I am giving you the "hairy eyebrow" raise
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I do find it curious you wanted to point out UNC positive points. I watched that game and found NO POSITIVES. ND throttled UNC from the media timeout in the 3rd quarter onward. UNC is littered with HG top 50 players and is constantly underachieving. I find Banghart one of the most overrated coaches in the game now (move over Gottlieb and Close) as a program that gets talent but regularly underachieves with it. I also think another ACC coach is vastly over rated (Barnes at SMU) but she does not get the talent these 3 get. So why did you give the faint praise?
Anyway, ND played well and "the cast" did a good job. That said, the teams Assists (251) to Turnovers (211) is concerning as that is NOT the ND pedigree.
I think this week's game vs. Louisville will give many of us a good view of the ACC, ND and Louisville. While I am absolutely rooting for Louisville to beat ND in a similar fashion to Tenn, my money would actually be on ND to win this game at home in the Purcell Pavilion.