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iri10 said:
I badly want KML to succeed. Great personality, exciting player when she's clicking on all cylinders. And yes, it may be that some other coach will see more value in her than Seattle's does. But even before she set foot in the WNBA, I had a feeling that she needed to improve. I never thought that she would simply be able to move up, and all the stuff she was capable of doing in college would immediately translate.

She needs to increase her agility, which is accomplished by becoming stronger relative to her bodyweight (through some combination of weight training, weight loss, clean eating, etc.). If she can't accomplish this, her ceiling is "specialist role player." I don't think KML entered the league with the ambition of becoming a role player. And in general, the WNBA and its roster limits are not friendly to specialist role players.

I think KML is strong-willed, and this has served her well as a basketball player. But now I think she needs to train that strong will in a direction that maybe she hasn't felt the need to prioritize before. After several years of struggling to get minutes, and struggling to do anything with them when she does, I think that the reality of what she needs to do is now staring her in the face. I will be watching hopefully to see if she can do it. She wouldn't be the first youngster to struggle for years, before finally figuring it out down the road.
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Great post indeed.
 
Aluminny69 said:
While this may be true, the big three are not doing enough to get their respective teams out of the bottom 3 in the league. ( at this point.) They are a combined 8 wins and 26 losses! I would guess this is more losses than a combined total of losses in their previous career. Just an observation. OTOH, Kiah Stokes was fortunate to be on a team that finished in first place, in her first year in the league.
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all things being what they are...Stokes would have been a better choice at #3 for the Storm than KML has been simply because she can rebound and score near the basket...something no one but Stewie can do right now
 
Aluminny69 said:
While this may be true, the big three are not doing enough to get their respective teams out of the bottom 3 in the league. ( at this point.) They are a combined 8 wins and 26 losses! I would guess this is more losses than a combined total of losses in their previous career. Just an observation. OTOH, Kiah Stokes was fortunate to be on a team that finished in first place, in her first year in the league.
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If I am not mistaking, didn't the Big 3 just arrived? And haven't they already shown flashes from time to time what they are capable of? And does the future looks brite for the Big 3? It most definitely does to me.

The Big 3 has done more in a short period of time than what KML - was not permitted to do - in her 2nd year in the league.

And no I do not blame KLM's situation on her alleged inabilities. But I blame her ability to perform effectively on the decision of the coach and lack of playing time.

If Geno found ways to motivate and put her in a position to contribute, why can't the Seattle coach do the same? Not Geno.

How is your team benefiting leaving one of the hottest and dangerous shooters out of college last year on the bench?

You can't teach screens effectively? You selected her with the 3rd pick to shine the bench rather blossom? Really?

And that's what piss me off the most. Not KML....But The coaching staff instabilities to build the team as a whole effectively as one unit.

I know she is frustrated. I been in that spot. Knowing what your capable of but not being afforded the full opportunity to prove it. But proved it I did. And so shall she with the right team if not with Seattle.

You'll be alright kid. Keep the Faith. Maintained That Inner Fire & Strong desire To Successfully succeed.
 
Kelly and KML are tweener in the W... very few are successful.

all the other UConn alum are post or have good dribbling (guard-like) skills
 
malevocalist# said:
If I am not mistaking, didn't the Big 3 just arrived? And haven't they already shown flashes from time to time what they are capable of? And does the future looks brite for the Big 3? It most definitely does to me.

The Big 3 has done more in a short period of time than what KML - was not permitted to do - in her 2nd year in the league.

And no I do not blame KLM's situation on her alleged inabilities. But I blame her ability to perform effectively on the decision of the coach and lack of playing time.

If Geno found ways to motivate and put her in a position to contribute, why can't the Seattle coach do the same? Not Geno.

How is your team benefiting leaving one of the hottest and dangerous shooters out of college last year on the bench?

You can't teach screens effectively? You selected her with the 3rd pick to shine the bench rather blossom? Really?

And that's what piss me off the most. Not KML....But The coaching staff instabilities to build the team as a whole effectively as one unit.

I know she is frustrated. I been in that spot. Knowing what your capable of but not being afforded the full opportunity to prove it. But proved it I did. And so shall she with the right team if not with Seattle.

You'll be alright kid. Keep the Faith. Maintained That Inner Fire & Strong desire To Successfully succeed.
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i agree with you in that KML seems to lack confidence and perhaps positive reinforcement might help her too...lot more to being a good than just X & O's...you have to know what makes each player tick...Bird at times seems to do more coaching than Boucek
 
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mkwstar23 said:
i agree with you in that KML seems to lack confidence and perhaps positive reinforcement might help her too...lot more to being a good than just X & O's...you have to know what makes each player tick...Bird at times seems to do more coaching than Boucek
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really... how does everyone else get it except KML
 
Fairfield Fan said:
So let's put aside this silly argument about KML's not playing or performing because of the "jump" from college to the pros. Every UConn alumna makes that jump, and almost seamlessly.

I think we should be questioning the coach. If she felt that KML was out of shape, or not fit for the pro game, then why in the world, out of all of those great college players, would Seattle select her fourth in the draft? Why would a floundering team like Seattle waste their first round choice on KML if they had doubts? And having made that selection, why in the world wouldn't they make use of her? Or else, if there are conditioning issues, do what's necessary in training camp to get her up to their standards?

This isn't on KML; this is on the had coach and the front office. They're the ones who need to explain themselves. I've got to think that Seattle fans would like to hear a full explanation of this situation as well.
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Speaking of questions, is this is the same coach/front office that drafted Stewie and Jewell and appear to be utilizing them correctly? Seattle would not be the first organization that made a mistake on a high draft pick. Some of this, certainly not all, has to be on KML.
 
The latest I've found about KML in France was this from USA Basketball (USA National Team Update (1/14/16)):

"Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis is suiting up for Flammes Carolo in Charleville, France and, has helped her team to a 7-4 mark in French league play, including a 74-63 victory this past week over COB Calais (3-9). She is currently averaging 10.6 ppg."

Anyone else know how the European season went? In any case, she seemed to be a strong performer in Europe over the winter.
 
CocoHusky said:
Speaking of questions, is this is the same coach/front office that drafted Stewie and Jewell and appear to be utilizing them correctly? Seattle would not be the first organization that made a mistake on a high draft pick. Some of this, certainly not all, has to be on KML.
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If you watched the 12 games, and feel that Stewie, and Jewell are being used correctly, you have watched different games. There have been many times during games where either Stewie, or Jewell have gone long periods without touching the ball on offense. Even the Storm announcers have wondered at times why Stewie hasn't been given the ball in the post against a smaller defender?
 
baggerbob said:
If you watched the 12 games, and feel that Stewie, and Jewell are being used correctly, you have watched different games. There have been many times during games where either Stewie, or Jewell have gone long periods without touching the ball on offense. Even the Storm announcers have wondered at times why Stewie hasn't been given the ball in the post against a smaller defender?
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part of the problem is that the Storm do not screen well...hard to get mismatches if you can't screen and cause switches...again a coaching thing and a lack of effort thing...just my opinion
 
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just an opinion but i think the Storm are going to have make a trade or two or sign a free agent or a foreign player with size and can score with their back to the backet, then it will free up space for Stewie and Langhorne to move thru the lane and Loyd can become the slashing scorer she can be...
 
baggerbob said:
If you watched the 12 games, and feel that Stewie, and Jewell are being used correctly, you have watched different games. There have been many times during games where either Stewie, or Jewell have gone long periods without touching the ball on offense. Even the Storm announcers have wondered at times why Stewie hasn't been given the ball in the post against a smaller defender?
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I have not watched all 12 games nor would it take 12 games for me to determine if Jewell and Stewie are being utilized correctly-they are. Just so I understand, KML is not being utilized (not enough minutes) Jewell and Stewie are not being utilized correctly (not enough touches or post ups). How is Sue Bird making out this season?
 
CocoHusky said:
Speaking of questions, is this is the same coach/front office that drafted Stewie and Jewell and appear to be utilizing them correctly? Seattle would not be the first organization that made a mistake on a high draft pick. Some of this, certainly not all, has to be on KML.
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Ummm, JL & Stewie were both afforded much more playing time out the gate. The same cannot be said for KML.

And yes I understand she has to make the most with the minutes afforded her which is not much.

I mean from the start of word go - her first season - the minutes were/is hard to come by. Thus, no plays designed for her. So really she is in the (who cares) dog house. And the coach doesn't seem to be loosening the chain any time soon.
 
My main complaint about coach Boucek is that she's Geno-like in how conservatively she uses her bench. Stewart is number 1 in the league in minutes (35), Bird number 3 (33.3), Loyd number 6 (33). Being Geno-like works if you're Geno, coaching in the college game on a college schedule. Gotta be kind of rough on them over the course of a long, grueling WNBA season, no?

Is the bench collectively worthless, or is Boucek is trying to redline her team's performance for not much gain (still a losing record)? This is why I acknowledge that a player like KML might find more minutes and success on another team, while still thinking that she needs to improve.

I don't have much complaint with how Stewart and Loyd look when they're on the floor. They have good and bad days, but they are young so you'd expect there to be some lack of consistency there.
 
malevocalist# said:
Ummm, JL & Stewie were both afforded much more playing time out the gate. The same cannot be said for KML.

And yes I understand she has to make the most with the minutes afforded her which is not much.

I mean from the start of word go - her first season - the minutes were/is hard to come by. Thus, no plays designed for her. So really she is in the (who cares) dog house. And the coach doesn't seem to be loosening the chain any time soon.
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She is not & was not in any doghouse. There was a plan to develop her and Jewell as document here.
Storm sticks to developmental approach with rookies Jewell Loyd, Kaleena Mosqueda-Lewis

As you correctly state the plan is off track because KML has not made the most of her opportunities & Jewell has.
"Many fans wondered why they aren’t playing or wanting to start.
“I get that question often,” said Mosqueda-Lewis, who’s averaging 7.7 minutes per game. She entered the league as the NCAA’s all-time leader in three-pointers and helped lead Connecticut to three consecutive NCAA championships.“It’s two months into the season,” she said. “I feel like I’m benefitting from being able to work on my individual skills, (and) whether or not I’m in the game I’m still learning. …"
 
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iri10 said:
My main complaint about coach Boucek is that she's Geno-like in how conservatively she uses her bench. Stewart is number 1 in the league in minutes (35), Bird number 3 (33.3), Loyd number 6 (33). Being Geno-like works if you're Geno, coaching in the college game on a college schedule. Gotta be kind of rough on them over the course of a long, grueling WNBA season, no?

Is the bench collectively worthless, or is Boucek is trying to redline her team's performance for not much gain (still a losing record)? This is why I acknowledge that a player like KML might find more minutes and success on another team, while still thinking that she needs to improve.

I don't have much complaint with how Stewart and Loyd look when they're on the floor. They have good and bad days, but they are young so you'd expect there to be some lack of consistency there.
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Kind of counter intuitive to think that KML could get more minutes else where when she cannot get minutes on one of the worst teams in the league where the starter are among the league leaders in mins/game.
 
Carnac said:
Last year, I posted a comment about Storm head coach Jenny Boucek's minimal use of KML, and how odd it seemed, given that first round draft picks usually get more than an occasional brief insert during games.
If you remember, Kaleena got very little playing time during the first 2/3 of the season. After the Storm had been officially eliminated from post season consideration, her minutes increased. I suggested at that time that perhaps it was a mistake for Seattle to have drafted her, and perhaps she would do better with another franchise. That observation was met with several opposing comments and counter takes.

The Boneyard consensus at that time was that her weight (which was never an issue at UConn, or here in the yard) and her inability to play defense at an acceptable level, were thought to be the main stumbling blocks to her getting more floor minutes.
Fast forward to today. After spending a season overseas, and having time to condition her body for the rigors of professional play, one would think season two would be radically different. Not so. Through 10 games this season (following stats were taken from the official Storm web site), Mosqueda-Lewis has appeared (through yesterday) in 10 games off the bench, averaging 11.2 minutes, shooting 33% from the floor, 20.8% from beyond the arc, 71.4 % in free throws.

Kaleena has been, and remains a developing roll player to this point. Whereas other first round draft picks Jewel Loyd and Breanna Stewart have established themselves as frontline players, and moved into the starting lineup. Why has KML not flourished at the next level as many of her "first round draft pick" contemporaries? Did the Storm make a mistake in their assessment of her? Is the coaching staff ill prepared/equipped to develop her, and bring her along? Are they misusing her? Has she not being given a fair chance of getting more floor time? Is she a bust? On draft day a year ago, she burst onto the scene with lots of media fanfare and rousing cheers from their fan base. Bringing her and Loyd into the program gave Storm fans a sense of hope, pride and a wealth of unbridled optimism. Fade to black. What happened? What's going on here? Will she forever be relegated to an off the bench "support" roll?, or do her potential fortunes lay with another team?
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Carnac- - - -I remember last year the 5 or 6 minute piece on KML having trouble with her release point on her shot. She was a split second late getting it off as the WNBA is that much quicker than CBB and KML was putting in extra time with an asst coach before and after practice and she was making great strides in her setup. That earned her more playing time and all her #'s improved! So I don't know if she went back to her old style overseas or what but her playing time is nil again!
I can't think that KML's work ethic has slipped! Maybe a personality difference with Jenny Boucek, but it's surprising how much she improved and playing time went way up the last 1/3 of the season to where she is now!
 
DaddyChoc said:
Kelly and KML are tweener in the W... very few are successful.

all the other UConn alum are post or have good dribbling (guard-like) skills
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What are they tween? Guard and guard?
 
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mkwstar23 said:
all things being what they are...Stokes would have been a better choice at #3 for the Storm than KML has been simply because she can rebound and score near the basket...something no one but Stewie can do right now
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Or this has a lot do to with incompetence. Stokes was being discussed as 2nd round pick because there was a question can a player stick in wnba just being good at defense. Now there is also a question can a player stick if she is just a 3pt shooter. IMO the answers are yes - it's just that imo there is much incompetence in the wnba.

With that said- if KML can't shoot when she is open - and as of right now that appears to be the case- it has nothing to do with if a player is 3pt specialist or not - it's that the player needs to hit her shots just like on the flip side Stokes needed to be able to be a very good defender.
 
If they had the benefit of foresight I really think the Storm would have chosen Stokes, because a decent post was more important once they were able to nab at least one decent guard in Loyd.

But that's foresight (well, now hindsight) for you. At the time, not many would have predicted that Stokes was such an asset, and neither she nor the other remaining posts seemed worth the risk of taking them over someone of KML's caliber. It took a coach who seems to have good foresight when building his team (Trader Bill) to take that risk, and it has paid off handsomely. :D
 
iri10 said:
If they had the benefit of foresight I really think the Storm would have chosen Stokes, because a decent post was more important once they were able to nab at least one decent guard in Loyd.

But that's foresight (well, now hindsight) for you. At the time, not many would have predicted that Stokes was such an asset, and neither she nor the other remaining posts seemed worth the risk of taking them over someone of KML's caliber. It took a coach who seems to have good foresight when building his team (Trader Bill) to take that risk, and it has paid off handsomely. :D
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I agree. And, I don't see the Liberty willing to trade Stokes for KML straight up. However, they should consider Amanda Zahui B. for KML, might benefit both teams. That's an interesting trade.

BTW, any similarities between Shoni Schimmel and KML? Both are struggling.
 
DaddyChoc said:
Kelly and KML are tweener in the W... very few are successful.

all the other UConn alum are post or have good dribbling (guard-like) skills
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I think Chong is in the same situation too. She has the ability but cannot contribute.....JMHO
 
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