Not that angry about today's loss

[Jimmy Serrano]

What do you expect from a guy that predicted 2 wins for us in 2010, and because we ended up in the Fiesta Bowl he has decided to completely discount all of our BE wins from that year. By Nelson's math we've actually improved under Pasqualoni.

Did he really predict 2 wins in 2010?

 

[whaler11]

Did he really predict 2 wins in 2010?

Said they wouldn't win again after the Temple loss. Something like 2-10 is on the table.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

What do you expect from a guy that predicted 2 wins for us in 2010, and because we ended up in the Fiesta Bowl he has decided to completely discount all of our BE wins from that year. By Nelson's math we've actually improved under Pasqualoni.

Please provide a link where, after getting shut out by Louisville, you predicted UConn would go to the Fiesta Bowl.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Said they wouldn't win again after the Temple loss. Something like 2-10 is on the table.

Actually it was after the Louisville loss. I underestimated just how bad the Big East was that year.

Good to see people are still bragging about that season as evidence of St. Randy's brilliance.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=322590120

 

[whaler11]

Please provide a link where, after getting shut out by Louisville, you predicted UConn would go to the Fiesta Bowl.

I did not. I did mock 2-10.

 

[whaler11]

Actually it was after the Louisville loss. I underestimated just how bad the Big East was that year.

Good to see people are still bragging about that season as evidence of St. Randy's brilliance.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=322590120

You shouldn't show your hand with 'St. Randy'. It makes your intent too clear.

I can't wait until you blame the Big East TV money on Pitt and ND.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You shouldn't show your hand with 'St. Randy'. It makes your intent too clear.

I can't wait until you blame the Big Rasy TB money on Pitt and ND.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=322590120

 

[whaler11]

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=322590120

On the Boneyard the Edsall haters have two links: Temple beat UConn in 2010 because Todman didn't hold onto the ball and the UConn defense beat Maryland in 2012 because the clock ran out.

Credit to Waylon that at least he is being honest - Edsall sucks blah blah blah. The king of pumping up the Big East has to bash it to denigrate Edsall. At least he isn't arguing both sides for a change.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

On the Boneyard the Edsall haters have two links: Temple beat UConn in 2010 because Todman didn't hold onto the ball and the UConn defense beat Maryland in 2012 because the clock ran out.

Credit to Waylon that at least he is being honest - Edsall sucks blah blah blah. The king of pumping up the Big East has to bash it to denigrate Edsall. At least he isn't arguing both sides for a change.

Scoreboard.

 

[whaler11]

Scoreboard.

I'm a UConn fan - unlike you who is a Big East fan but even an idiot like you knows that 'scoreboard' is easily argued with 'standings'

Shouldn't you be impressed that Maryland beat your beloved Owls.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I'm a UConn fan - unlike you who is a Big East fan but even an idiot like you knows that 'scoreboard' is easily argued with 'standings'

Shouldn't you be impressed that Maryland beat your beloved Owls.

Maryland's best win is considered a disastrous loss for UConn by you. Par for the course with your logic.

 

[whaler11]

Maryland's best win is considered a disastrous loss for UConn by you. Par for the course with your logic.

There are two people on the planet who don't think Temple sucks. You and the blogger who picked Temple over UConn 35-7 before they got Harris.

Yeah Maryland sucks with their true freshman QB and their future Heisman candidate who are 4-2. Edsall sucks - the Big East sucked blah blah blah.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

There are two people on the planet who don't think Temple sucks. You and the blogger who picked Temple over UConn 35-7 before they got Harris.

Yeah Maryland sucks with their true freshman QB and their future Heisman candidate who are 4-2. Edsall sucks - the Big East sucked blah blah blah.

Isn't there a Maryland board you can share this with?

 

[whaler11]

Isn't there a Maryland board you can share this with?

I'm sure you already did.

 

[ZooCougar]

On the Boneyard the Edsall haters have two links: Temple beat UConn in 2010 because Todman didn't hold onto the ball and the UConn defense beat Maryland in 2012 because the clock ran out.

Credit to Waylon that at least he is being honest - Edsall sucks blah blah blah. The king of pumping up the Big East has to bash it to denigrate Edsall. At least he isn't arguing both sides for a change.

No wins against any schools that finished in the Top 25.

One win against a team that was ranked at the time.

When was the past time we had a good QB on the roster?

But I still say Coach P is the only thing that could make me nostalgic for Edsall.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Actually it was after the Louisville loss. I underestimated just how bad the Big East was that year.

Good to see people are still bragging about that season as evidence of St. Randy's brilliance.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=322590120

I like what you did there. Instead of issuing a mea culpa you deflected blame to the remainder of the conference.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

No wins against any schools that finished in the Top 25.

One win against a team that was ranked at the time.

When was the past time we had a good QB on the roster?

But I still say Coach P is the only thing that could make me nostalgic for Edsall.

It's funny how pretty much everyone is in agreement that Pasqualoni isn't getting it done, but the Apologists just can't let go of their coach-crush on Edsall, so they are using this situation to reaffirm their love of Mr. Mediocre.

 

[whaler11]

It's funny how pretty much everyone is in agreement that Pasqualoni isn't getting it done, but the Apologists just can't let go of their coach-crush on Edsall, so they are using this situation to reaffirm their love of Mr. Mediocre.

It's so cute that you have names for everyone! Sorry that you care more about defending your predictions on a message board than dealing with reality. I thought Spackler had overtaken you as the biggest fool around here but at least he just admits when he was wrong.

 

[Srqhusky]

Nelson-

I feel you are delusional and need therapy. while it's always nice to see the potential for lemonade in lemons, this is as bad as it can get without being BCU. if you feel the need to pull positives out of this the only positive is that we're 1 step closer to a new head coach.

Johnny
What is wrong with seeing the positives that the team is doing man? What is wallowing in the mud going to do?
Temple made adjustments and forced whitmer to throw to the sidelines where it is not his strength. Once they took the middle away he struggled. Passes were called to the sideline and plays were not made that I saw.
Running. Although max had a decent day we had a hard time gettin over a few yards per carry. We need to be able to pound the rock and block.

Onto the coaches. The only blame I see on the coaches. And it's a biggie. Is when temple was running the hurry up we had all three timeouts and our defense wasn't set led to those two completions at the end. I think we should have called a timeout and stole their momentum and set te defense based on what they were showing.
I am concerned pp doesn't acknowledge this at all.
Well onto Syracuse where hopefully we can win by double digits. I really believe the team is close to having an offense.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Johnny
What is wrong with seeing the positives that the team is doing man? What is wallowing in the mud going to do?
Temple made adjustments and forced whitmer to throw to the sidelines where it is not his strength. Once they took the middle away he struggled. Passes were called to the sideline and plays were not made that I saw.
Running. Although max had a decent day we had a hard time gettin over a few yards per carry. We need to be able to pound the rock and block.

Onto the coaches. The only blame I see on the coaches. And it's a biggie. Is when temple was running the hurry up we had all three timeouts and our defense wasn't set led to those two completions at the end. I think we should have called a timeout and stole their momentum and set te defense based on what they were showing.
I am concerned pp doesn't acknowledge this at all.
Well onto Syracuse where hopefully we can win by double digits. I really believe the team is close to having an offense.

It feels like every game there are a few small adjustments that could make a huge difference, and they don't get made. UConn isn't getting its doors blown off, it is losing close game after close game. With most programs, a coach has to cross all the t's and dot all the i's and then, with a few breaks, the team can have a good year and win more than it loses. UConn is just not doing that. Too many little things keep getting missed.

 

[mattp]

Please provide a link where, after getting shut out by Louisville, you predicted UConn would go to the Fiesta Bowl.

I never predicted a Fiesta Bowl, but I laughed at your idiotic prediction. Of course you don't count that Fiesta Bowl anyway b/c the BE sucked that year. I know you like to deflect attention away from your lunacy by saying everybody else is in love with Edsall, but that has nothing to do with your complete suspension of reality for what happened that season. Over this thread you've said the fans are idiots for thinking GDL and P suck, Edsall sucks b/c the only year he made the Fiesta Bowl the BE sucked and Bill Stewert blew his game against us,even though elsewhere you say ultimately wins are the only things that matter, meanwhile Temple's not really that bad because they're losses are decent, even though one is against UMD which is coached by Edsall, who sucks. You really need to diagram out your arguments somewhere so you can keep them straight because right now following your train of thought is like following John Nash's work room in A Beautiful Mind.

You're right, we're not getting pantsed in our games, but when you lose all the close ones, there's a problem. And somehow winning all the close ones was never enough to win your approval of Edsall's job. How did we suck before b/c we couldn't beat top 25 programs, but now we're decent for losing close games to teams in the mid50s and mid 60s?

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Actually it was after the Louisville loss. I underestimated just how bad the Big East was that year.

Good to see people are still bragging about that season as evidence of St. Randy's brilliance.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=322590120

I can't stand the guy and think he's the biggest phoney in the world. But is it really that difficult to admit that Edsall did a good job here? I don't think anyone thinks he is a great coach, but he did a good job here.

I'm not saying you should change your #BegHarder signature to say "I predicted 2-10 in 2010" but a simple "I was wrong" goes a long way. Instead you continually trash and mock the accomplishments of our 2010 Fiesta Bowl team. What's really sad is that I wouldn't expect anything more from you.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I never predicted a Fiesta Bowl, but I laughed at your idiotic prediction. Of course you don't count that Fiesta Bowl anyway b/c the BE sucked that year. I know you like to deflect attention away from your lunacy by saying everybody else is in love with Edsall, but that has nothing to do with your complete suspension of reality for what happened that season. Over this thread you've said the fans are idiots for thinking GDL and P suck, Edsall sucks b/c the only year he made the Fiesta Bowl the BE sucked and Bill Stewert blew his game against us,even though elsewhere you say ultimately wins are the only things that matter, meanwhile Temple's not really that bad because they're losses are decent, even though one is against UMD which is coached by Edsall, who sucks. You really need to diagram out your arguments somewhere so you can keep them straight because right now following your train of thought is like following John Nash's work room in A Beautiful Mind.

You're right, we're not getting pantsed in our games, but when you lose all the close ones, there's a problem. And somehow winning all the close ones was never enough to win your approval of Edsall's job. How did we suck before b/c we couldn't beat top 25 programs, but now we're decent for losing close games to teams in the mid50s and mid 60s?

Entire post is a strawman argument. Moving along.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I can't stand the guy and think he's the biggest phoney in the world. But is it really that difficult to admit that Edsall did a good job here? I don't think anyone thinks he is a great coach, but he did a good job here.

I'm not saying you should change your #BegHarder signature to say "I predicted 2-10 in 2010" but a simple "I was wrong" goes a long way. Instead you continually trash and mock the accomplishments of our 2010 Fiesta Bowl team. What's really sad is that I wouldn't expect anything more from you.

Didn't say he sucked and I didn't trash or mock the 2010 team. I just pointed out several atypical factors that created a favorable bowl appearance that was not realistically going to be replicated under Edsall. Giving Edsall credit for getting us to the Fiesta Bowl is like giving a lottery winner credit for picking the right numbers. The lottery winner may be good at math, but he or she is unlikely to pick the winning numbers again.

 

[ZooCougar]

Entire post is a strawman argument. Moving along.

Your strawman did nothing to refute his.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Didn't say he sucked and I didn't trash or mock the 2010 team. I just pointed out several atypical factors that created a favorable bowl appearance that was not realistically going to be replicated under Edsall. Giving Edsall credit for getting us to the Fiesta Bowl is like giving a lottery winner credit for picking the right numbers. The lottery winner may be good at math, but he or she is unlikely to pick the winning numbers again.

There are so many direct contradictions in this post I don't know where to begin. Moving along.

 

[BlueMAB]

Nelson, doesn't the lack of in game adjustment bother you? It kills me.

Once the Temple defense started covering the center of the field (and blitzing a bit more) the UConn coaches were out of ammo. They had three quarters to adjust. To find something that worked. They never did, they ran the same plays that worked in the first quarter and ignored the results. It was a TERRIBLE offense for 3 quarters - 0 Points, you can't do worse.

Delorenzo wasn't better than McCombs but he wasn't any worse. He moved the pile, didn't really break any tackles and showed the same lack of vision (never seeing the cutback) that McCombs shows. I say, next man up, Joe Williams.

I am very angry that Chris Peterson is not our coach. We should shut the program down as a result.

Seriously, I think the screeching of the past 24 hours shows a total ignorance of football, because in reality this was not a terrible game from a coaching standpoint.

Entire post is a strawman argument. Moving along.

The most annoying thing about people who are pathological is that they don't realize they are pathological. You do nothing but make strawman arguments, then throw that charge out at others in mocking tone.

Palatine made a very thoughtful post, to which you responded with mockery, condescension and a straw man, while refusing to address his point, and concluding with the statement inferring palatine was wrong.

You bring up Edsall time after time in this thread while blaming others for not letting go. Edsall has nothing to do with Pasqualoni's pathetic game day coaching. The fact is, you're actually mocking Edsall as mediocre, while defending a man who has a losing record at UConn and has failed to win back to back games after 19 games. A coach who has lost to a MAC team in back to back years. We're 4-7 in games decided by 1 score. That's not mediocre, it's awful. You can mock mediocre all you want, but you're doing it while defending ineptitude. And it makes you look like a genius. You defend "not getting blown out", then discount wins. You're embarrasing yourself.

 

[mattp]

Entire post is a strawman argument. Moving along.

How is it a straw man? That seems to be your answer every time someone calls out the ridiculous things you say. Maybe if you put a few moments of cogent thought into your arguments you wouldn't get trapped in a web of your own flawed logic quite so often.

 

[ZooCougar]

Waylon is a human fallacy generation machine.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

How is it a straw man? That seems to be your answer every time someone calls out the ridiculous things you say. Maybe if you put a few moments of cogent thought into your arguments you wouldn't get trapped in a web of your own flawed logic quite so often.

It is a straw man argument because the premise of his post is that I am a Pasqualoni defender. I am not.

What did I post that was ridiculous? Was UConn missing its starting TB? Did UConn move the ball pretty well, putting up a pretty good yardage game? Did the kicker miss 4 field goals?

The argument of almost every poster in this thread, including you, is that:

a) Pasqualoni is the worst coach in the history of football, and
b) UConn had achieved some great heights before Pasqualoni destroyed the program.

The reality is that UConn was a mediocre program when Pasqualoni got here, and while I don't think he has been a good coach by any means, folks like you accuse me of heresy for pointing out that he did not coach a terrible game against Temple.

That is the entire argument in this thread. I said Pasqualoni wasn't terrible against Temple, and we have 3 pages of personal flames as a result. I didn't even say he was good, just not terrible.