Not sure where im going but theres a point somewhere in there

[gtcam]

These things changed. I swear the kid was 2 stars on a couple of sites
Amida Brimah, Archbishop Carroll HS C - Scout

You are correct - he was rated 2 star in quite a few
He leaves as no higher

 

[gtcam]

Ollie should be given a mulligan for this season. However, the previous two teams both vastly underperformed their talent levels and expectations. The 2015/16 team should have been a Sweet 16 team and instead got bounced by Arizona St. in the NIT. Last year's team had one of the best starting five's in America and should have been a Final Four team. They both underperformed bigly. Next year's team should be at minimum a Sweet 16 team. If not, serious questions should be asked.

You overestimate by a wide margin
2015-2016 was one of the best starting 5? Who was the established PG? Who was the dominate 5?
BTW - 2014/15 was beaten in NIT and no way a sweet 16 team - go revisit that roster and then readdress that statement
Don't understand where you are getting your "gut feelings" from

 

[shizzle787]

You overestimate by a wide margin
2015-2016 was one of the best starting 5? Who was the established PG? Who was the dominate 5?
BTW - 2014/15 was beaten in NIT and no way a sweet 16 team - go revisit that roster and then readdress that statement
Don't understand where you are getting your "gut feelings" from

Sterling Gibbs was the 5th year senior and a very solid transfer from Seton Hall. Shown Miller was one of the best power forwards in the country, though a bit undersized. Daniel Hamilton was the small forward. Brimah was excellent defensively though he struggled on offense. Purvis was the reverse. Omar Calhoun had a renaissance as a senior as well and Adams also came off the bench.

The 2014/15 was preseason top 20. They had Hamilton, Purvis, Boatright, Nolan (who wasn't great but reliable), and Terrance Samuel who was huge off the bench the year before in the title run.

 

[Chief00]

I keep reading posts calling for KO to be fired because hes "not a very good" coach who has not developed players over the last 4 years. I personally disagree completely with this as i believe in KO as much as i did the first day he was announced and when you know, WON A NATIONAL TITLE. Of course the naysayers will cry "he won with Calhouns guys". This sentiment is supposed to be some knock and proof of KOs lack of ability when in fact it proves the point that im going to make. My point is this, TALENT! Or the lack there of on this roster.

Now dont get me wrong we`ve got some good players and even a couple with some first round NBA potential but thats about it. People talk about guys like AB,Purv and Facey failing to develop but i ask, if these guys were under Calhoun would they be much better? Of course your first instict is to say yes but need i bring up the names of talented guys under JC who also failed to develop? The reason it never became an issue was because we were stacked with enough talent that if someone wasnt cutting it another guy stepped in and we`d be off and running. Remember the days when we had so much talent that we often wondered how some really talented guys could get enough minutes? Now we wonder if we have enough bodies to get through a game without resorting to walk ons.

At the start of the season the starting 5 were Larrier,Facey,Brimah,Purv and Adams. Let me ask would any of those guys start on any of our 4 national title teams? How about any of our powerhouse 90`s teams? Of those JA at best is likely a 6th man. I know Olander started in `11 so ill give you AB over him but thats about it. The point im making is that people are underestimating KO and over estimating the talent level thats here especially in regards to cohesiveness. Until we start getting 4 and 5 star guys up and down the roster these are the seasons we`re going to be dealing with. I know the counter argument will be "other coaches are doing more with less". But my counter is this sure we may have more physical talent than a lot of schools and we`re all wowed by it but many of our players skill level are average at best and the overall basketball iq on this team isnt very good.

Until we start getting physically talented,high skill,high iq players here like we became accustomed to having we are going to go through seasons like this. The good news is that it appears this is starting to happen although a bit slow especially when it comes to bigs but it does appear to be happening. This nightmare season will end soon and i fully believe that someday this program will get back to its spot among the elite of college basketball and the nightmare that has been these last two seasons will be a distant memory that will give us an appreciation for how special the good times are when they happen again.

Are you Dogmania2

 

[huskymagic]

It's pretty clear that next year is judgement day for Ollie and the direction we are headed in. With the talent on the team if we are flubbing around next year there is ZERO excuses to justify it. Ollie's problem is instead of berating and tearing his players down before he builds them up, he builds them up before they ever do anything giving them a false sense of confidence that gets shattered when they lose to teams like Wagner. The talent level we had under Calhoun was definitely better overall that part is true, but we have more than enough talent to not lose to Wagner, Northeastern, ECU, and Tulsa.

PS: Amida was a 3 star recruit, but if re-ranked after his freshman year would have been in the top 100 in most services. Amida had a high upside as has been pretty evident throughout his tenure here. A guy that was ranked around Brimah's rank out of high school was John Collins from Wake Forest who will be a guaranteed first round pick as a big man this upcoming draft.

 

[Horatio]

You are correct - he was rated 2 star in quite a few
He leaves as no higher

Horatio 1/2 liked your post in the thread not sure where im going but theres a point somewhere in here