North Carolina @ North Carolina St (7) - 2/03/19

[triaddukefan]

So...how good is UNC? Beaten Notre Dame and previously undefeated NC State recently, will be a 4 game winning streak for them (beat VPI in honor of Triad and Georgia Tech as well)

It pains me to say it.... but look at their remaining schedule..... home vs Duke.... at Clemson... @ Pitt... home vs UVA... home vs BC..... home vs State.. and @ Duke. They might run the table..

 

[IrishTiger]

It pains me to say it.... but look at their remaining schedule..... home vs Duke.... at Clemson... @ Pitt... home vs UVA... home vs BC..... home vs State.. and @ Duke. They might run the table..

Knowing how UNC is they’ll probably lose at Clemson and even possibly at Duke.

 

[bbballfan23]

As we thought, NC State, while a good team and well-deserving of all the stories they got for being undefeated, no one ever really believed they were a true contender.

 

[triaddukefan]

As we thought, NC State, while a good team and well-deserving of all the stories they got for being undefeated, no one ever really believed they were a true contender.

I still think they are a Sweet 16 team..... but all of their injuries finally caught up with them. Oh what could have been

 

[bbballfan23]

I still think they are a Sweet 16 team..... but all of their injuries finally caught up with them. Oh what could have been

There’s a difference of top-16 team & a championship contender.

 

[LETTERL]

As we thought, NC State, while a good team and well-deserving of all the stories they got for being undefeated, no one ever really believed they were a true contender.

This is exactly the type of comment I knew was going to come as soon as NC State lost their first game. The season isn't over yet.

 

[triaddukefan]

There’s a difference of top-16 team & a championship contender.

who said there wasnt a difference? I pointed out that they are still a team that could advance to the sweet 16 despite their injuries. If they make it that far... it would be a good season for them. Where would UConn or any team be if they lost their starting PG, their leading scorer, and a reserve guard to ACL injuries?

 

[nwhoopfan]

who said there wasnt a difference? I pointed out that they are still a team that could advance to the sweet 16 despite their injuries. If they make it that far... it would be a good season for them. Where would UConn or any team be if they lost their starting PG, their leading scorer, and a reserve guard to ACL injuries?

Does UConn even have enough players to field a team if they had 3 out w/ injuries?

 

[willtalk]

One has to also consider the Rivalry factor. I mean Cal beat Stanford and they are not even in the same league- except literally.

 

[triaddukefan]

One has to also consider the Rivalry factor. I mean Cal beat Stanford and they are not even in the same league- except literally.

That's why I voted for the upset today

 

[Centerstream]

Love how quite a few posters this year will be negative to any team (and players too) when given the opportunity. They probably complain when they are having...

 

[trisailin]

Results of this game vs the results of the poll indicate a couple of things:
A) Boneyard prognosticators (collectively) aren't very good at predicting basketball game outcomes.
B) Boneyard prognosticators probably should not be putting money on any Super Bowl results!

 

[Shades]

I voted for the upset today

Me too... I could see UNC turned some sort of corner, and NCSU being undefeated seemed due to a favorable schedule.

 

[MilfordHusky]

One has to also consider the Rivalry factor. I mean Cal beat Stanford and they are not even in the same league- except literally.

I missed the Stanford loss on Thursday, but they made up for it the next game.

 

[LETTERL]

This weekend in Raleigh...

NC State MBB and WBB finished a combined 25-of-108 (23.1 percent) from the field, 10-of-53 (18.9) from behind the arc.

 

[LETTERL]

I found this nice summary on the NC State message boards. UNC just dominated NC State in all major categories Sunday.

Unc shot 38.5% FG, 23.5% 3FG. We shot 29.6%, 32% 3FG
We were outrebounded 42-40.

We committed more fouls 17-16.

We had more turnovers 14-5.

We had more blocks 6-2.

Unc had more steals 8-1.

Although I do think we are starting to see the effects of injuries and a limited bench, I do think something else is at play. Starting with the VaTech game two weeks ago, NC State has been playing what I call "tight" basketball, which may be a result of the winning streak. I know Coach Moore says they never talked about it, I suspect some of the team members were starting to feel the pressure of the increased scrutiny and publicity that came with being in the top 10 and still undefeated.

Now that THAT burden has been removed, it will be interesting to see if NC State can get back to what made them successful through the early part of the season...or is what we have witnessed this week (we were outrebounded by both Wake Forest and UNC) the "new normal" for the Wolfpack Women as our schedule gets more challenging. We'll find out Thursday night against Florida State.

 

[mbr33ct]

I'll have whatever Charlie is drinking...in the next bracketology UNC will probably be a 3 seed.

 

[Plebe]

I'll have whatever Charlie is drinking...in the next bracketology UNC will probably be a 3 seed.

They're #22 in the RPI and they have wins over two top-10 teams. They're not a 3 seed but for sure they're in.

 

[shiverz45]

I'll have whatever Charlie is drinking...in the next bracketology UNC will probably be a 3 seed.

5 seed at best. They still have 9 losses.

 

[Shades]

Hey, Minnesota just won two in a row including Rutgers. Let’s toss them a #7 seed.

 

[Plebe]

Hey, Minnesota just won two in a row including Rutgers. Let’s toss them a #7 seed.

I get that you're being humorous, but there's a massive gap between UNC's and MN's resumes.

 

[mbr33ct]

They're #22 in the RPI and they have wins over two top-10 teams. They're not a 3 seed but for sure they're in.

#22 at this time, but UNC pretty much finished their "strongest" part of their schedule. I have to believe the current RPI will go lower. The remainder of UNC's schedule are as follows; Duke (#70 RPI WarrenNolan.com), Clemson (#47), Pitt (#122), UVA (#104), BC (#102), NCST (#9) and Duke again to finish their regular season play.

As the other poster, shiverz45 stated they do currently have 9 losses. Will be interesting to see how UNC fairs in their last 6 games, will they get tripped up by one or multiple teams.

 

[Fightin Choke]

UNC has really been playing better and the metrics prove that. While they had a poor OOC performance, they are coming on recently in conference play, suggesting they may be jelling. As mentioned, UNC is 22nd in RPI, with the 2nd ranked SOS. That may explain why they are ranked that high despite their high number of losses. And Massey likes the Tarheels as well; ranked 30th with a Massey Power Rating of 25th.

 

[Orangutan]

#22 at this time, but UNC pretty much finished their "strongest" part of their schedule. I have to believe the current RPI will go lower. The remainder of UNC's schedule are as follows; Duke (#70 RPI WarrenNolan.com), Clemson (#47), Pitt (#122), UVA (#104), BC (#102), NCST (#9) and Duke again to finish their regular season play.

As the other poster, shiverz45 stated they do currently have 9 losses. Will be interesting to see how UNC fairs in their last 6 games, will they get tripped up by one or multiple teams.

WarrenNolan also has them #22 in predicted RPI. The weakening of the strength-of-schedule component of RPI will likely be offset by the improvement in their winning percentage.

 

[mbr33ct]

WarrenNolan also has them #22 in predicted RPI. The weakening of the strength-of-schedule component of RPI will likely be offset by the improvement in their winning percentage.

...why I can't understand this RPI system. I'll just leave it to the pros.

 

[Shades]

I get that you're being humorous, but there's a massive gap between UNC's and MN's resumes.

I’m being glib about NC suddenly deserving that much consideration, even after several losses. I’m not quite ready to drink the NC koolaid like Creme. Give me time.

 

[triaddukefan]

I’m being glib about NC suddenly deserving that much consideration, even after several losses. I’m not quite ready to drink the NC koolaid like Creme. Give me time.

Hopefully Duke will ..... add a lil something to that Koolaid on thursday night. Something that would leave the Koolaid undrinkable

 

[Plebe]

I’m being glib about NC suddenly deserving that much consideration, even after several losses. I’m not quite ready to drink the NC koolaid like Creme. Give me time.

It's always more about the wins than about the losses:

Two weeks ago, North Carolina was 10-9 and an afterthought for the NCAA tournament. The Tar Heels were a top-50 RPI team because of a difficult schedule and a couple of decent wins, but teams merely one game above .500 aren't typically in the mix for an at-large berth.​

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But after a four-game winning streak -- which includes a pair of key victories over top-10 teams -- North Carolina is solidly in the field. How did it turn around so fast? Big wins -- it's hard to get bigger than beating then-No. 1 Notre Dame and previously unbeaten NC State in an eight-day span -- are always going to help the résumé more than bad losses are going to hurt.​

 

[mainejeff]

So...how good is UNC? Beaten Notre Dame and previously undefeated NC State recently, will be a 4 game winning streak for them (beat VPI in honor of Triad and Georgia Tech as well)

So good that they lost to Maine at home.

 

[MSGRET]

Results of this game vs the results of the poll indicate a couple of things:
A) Boneyard prognosticators (collectively) aren't very good at predicting basketball game outcomes.
B) Boneyard prognosticators probably should not be putting money on any Super Bowl results!

Well I put money on the SB and won $2,500.00. Had LA winning the coin toss, NE winning by 10, the under, NE getting the first and last score, both field goals, NE getting the first touchdown, and NE having the first TO. The only thing I had wrong was the score on my bets. I had NE 27 - LA 17, boy was I off on that one.