North Carolina Academics Report Out

[jibsey]

Am I blind, or is there not a single mention of the scandal on the ESPN home page?
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When the Miles/APR thing broke during the tournament we were on the NBC Nightly News. Calhoun was grilled mercilessly and not only were we a headline story but the majority of sports writers came out against us. This is not about liking or not liking NC, it's about fairness in treating us different than others by the NCAA. Can't help it but what happened then to us means that we see this in a different light than most programs.

 

[Walker11]

When the Miles/APR thing broke during the tournament we were on the NBC Nightly News. Calhoun was grilled mercilessly and not only were we a headline story but the majority of sports writers came out against us. This is not about liking or not liking NC, it's about fairness in treating us different than others by the NCAA. Can't help it but what happened then to us means that we see this in a different light than most programs.

The story was the main article on the front page of CNN. It was talked about in the Today Show, NBC Nightly News and a variety of other outlets. People are talking about it, just not ESPN, which is even more absurd.

 

[CallMeBruce]

It's currently the third story on ESPN behind the shooting at Parliament and the guy who jumped the fence at the white house this morning(?). I'd say that's pretty fair.

 

[Huskies4ever]

if they don't drop the hammer on THIS then what will they drop it on?

Us?

 

[CL82]

It's currently the third story on ESPN behind the shooting at Parliament and the guy who jumped the fence at the white house this morning(?). I'd say that's pretty fair.

Except the first two aren't sports stories. Regardless all three are MIA now.

It is first of the sidebar stories on the NCAAM page though.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Except the first two aren't sports stories. Regardless all three are MIA now.

Ah, I meant CNN, not ESPN.

 

[CL82]

Ah, I meant CNN, not ESPN.

Ah, got it.

 

[Husky25]

The Onion‏@TheOnion 47m47 minutes ago
[American Voices] Report: UNC Inflated Grades, Created Fake Classes For Over 3,100 Students http://onion.com/1uMfQKT #WhatDoYouThink?

Not a good thing when there is no room for hyperbole in an @TheOnion tweet.

 

[David 76]

I saw it covered on Morning Joe this a.m.
There was consensus that the "nobody knew about it" line was BS.

 

[jibsey]

We'll get to Dean and Roy later, because their right hand academic advisors were in it up to their necks but once the NCAA sorts this out it will be interesting how long the post season bans will be and how many scholarships are lost. Penn State had a mini death sentence because of one of their coaches with no tie to anything by the players, different I know. This gaming of the system was so long standing and pervasive. Roy would be smart to get out now.

 

[huskyharry]

It would be very difficult to prove, unless former athletics department staff come forward, but it does seem logical that this was a program that was planned and designed to support the athletics teams but deliberately opened up to all students as a form of protective subterfuge. Smiling Roy likely has very dirty hands here.

 

[RedDog]

We have this news about North Carolina, and next week more info will come out regarding Syracuse. Who's next?
The ACC conference: Academically Challenged Colleges

 

[Calhoun's Court]

We have this news about North Carolina, and next week more info will come out regarding Syracuse. Who's next?
The ACC conference: Academically Challenged Colleges

Turns out that the ACC is the perfect conference for Louisville to be in.

 

[intlzncster]

Some links from the womens board:

Funny parody on the situation:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/u-n-c-boosters-outraged-athletes-took-real-classes

Perspective from The Daily Tarheel:

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2014/10/faculty-athletic-counselors-facing-disciplinary-action

Comparison to other scandals :

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...al-wainstein-report-investigation-ncaa-102214

 

[CL82]

We have this news about North Carolina, and next week more info will come out regarding Syracuse. Who's next?
The ACC conference: Academically Challenged Colleges

All Cheaters Conference.

 

[upstater]

Add this to the UNC scandal:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...bility-of-players/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

The Provost?

Umm, death penalty.

THE PROVOST!!!!!!!!!

 

[UconnU]

i guess this has been swept under the rug? The largest academic scandal in the history of college athletics. unreal.

 

[storrsroars]

Add this to the UNC scandal:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...bility-of-players/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

The Provost?

Umm, death penalty.

THE PROVOST!!!!!!!!!

On the one hand, this is a new low even by past NCAA cheaters' standards. OTOH, I'm somewhat impressed by the creativity and chutzpah.

 

[B1GEast]

When coach Roy said that dark times were ahead for UNC, he knew exactly what that meant.

Everyone seems to think that they're going to get off lightly, but this isn't going to end well. It's a "Not in the face" type of ending.

 

[Edward Sargent]

I have a cousin who is a UNC grad, lives in NC. I've semi-ragged on him over this, but that story, if true, isn't just bad for athletics. The report suggests that the fraud extended to a fairly large number of non-athletes, too. Since it's unlikely that every last student involved will have a name revealed, a lot of grads will be painted with a brush of suspicion they don't deserve, not to mention the taint on the degree, involved or not. Big time sports - make that big time money in sports - is bad news. Winston at FSU has more protection than ebola nurses, SU has protected a few bad guys, and it's all about money. Maybe it's time to see it for what it is, let schools sponsor teams, let the players be paid, and if they so desire and can get into the school like everyone else, good for them.

The point is though is that they played with their own academic rules at the time. Its the same reason there are asterisks around Barry Bonds and other records for steroids. You can also argue that all the schools do it (or did it) but that argument didn't hold water with Lance Armstrong either. If we didn't have rules Amidah Brimah would play 40 minutes a game!

 

[Edward Sargent]

It's currently the third story on ESPN behind the shooting at Parliament and the guy who jumped the fence at the white house this morning(?). I'd say that's pretty fair.

Did the fence jumper break a record or something?

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Add this to the UNC scandal:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...bility-of-players/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

The Provost?

Umm, death penalty.

THE PROVOST!!!!!!!!!

A part of me hopes this isn't true.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Probably won't hear a thing about it on ESPN

 

[David 76]

You think Roy will lose his job?
He should

 

[DarthGrumpy]

The Provost and a senior member of the Athletic Department are involved and beyond acknowledging that the documents have been received, nothing from the investigative commissions nor the major sports networks? If this happened at UConn, Emmert would be on campus throwing gasoline on Gampel and the basketball practice center and ESPN would bring the matches.

 

[ctchamps]

The Provost and a senior member of the Athletic Department are involved and beyond acknowledging that the documents have been received, nothing from the investigative commissions nor the major sports networks? If this happened at UConn, Emmert would be on campus throwing gasoline on Gampel and the basketball practice center and ESPN would bring the matches.

The APR was important when it was created. It was an attempt to ensure athletes weren't just being used and discarded. However, it was flawed from the beginning. Universities self reported. There never was validation that athletes were in fact getting an education only utilizing the APR. It was a smokescreen that is now apparent to at least some of us. It most likely punished universities with integrity. Although I'm not suggesting that all universities which met the APR were doctoring things.

It wasn't just UConn. It was JC. He was a thorn for a lot of people. Certain personalities invite that. It wasn't fair imo. Not by a long shot. But that's how things work. Not many in the media, or the population in general, have the ability to remove their personal distaste for something or someone in evaluating a higher truth.

You, who experienced the best and worst about foster care, should understand this pitfall with individuals and society as a whole.

 

[Paesano]

The Provost and a senior member of the Athletic Department are involved and beyond acknowledging that the documents have been received, nothing from the investigative commissions nor the major sports networks? If this happened at UConn, Emmert would be on campus throwing gasoline on Gampel and the basketball practice center and ESPN would bring the matches.

Our world has come to the point where people care more about failure than cheating.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Just read the ESPN blurb on Boehiem's spanking and the following caught my cynical eye.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-jim-boeheim-never-viewed-same-ncaa-sanctions

Somewhere in Tennessee, Donnie Tyndall, under investigation for alleged violations committed while he was at Southern Miss, ought to be quivering in his orange blazer. Neither Larry Brown, facing NCAA scrutiny at SMU, nor Roy Williams, in the epicenter of the North Carolina academic mess, should be breathing easy, either.

"Absolutely they should be worried,'' the same lawyer said.

The penalties leveled at Boeheim are easily the harshest in recent years. Jim Calhoun, the former UConn coach, and Central Florida's Donnie Jones each was suspended three games. Frank Haith got five on the heels of the Miami investigation. Pearl missed eight, but that was a hit from the SEC offices, not the NCAA.

Yet Boeheim's punishment could have been far worse. COI chair Britton Banowsky said on a teleconference after the sanctions were announced that essentially Syracuse and Boeheim dodged a bullet because most of their violations came before the new penalty structure was put in place.


Otherwise the school would have been looking at a two-year postseason ban, six years' probation and most notably, up to a half-season suspension for Boehiem.​

The NCAA is already framing its reason to let UNC off the hook for a decade of complete academic fraud.

 

[Rocktheworld]

The NCAA is already framing its reason to let UNC off the hook for a decade of complete academic fraud.

I dunno, the penalties for obvious lack of institutional control have been the same at least since SMU got the death penalty, no?

But this is the NCAA so who knows

 

[Jaker]

Would really love to see a title vacated, won't happen though.