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this might be his best one yet.

what makes the AAC more appealing than the MW to the PAC4? once the pac4 merges with MW and renegotiates its tv deal they can just poach Rice and Tulane and/or SMU.
exit fee
 
exit fee
exit fees aren't an issue if there is a merger. but the exit fee for MW teams is much higher than it is for AAC teams so it only makes sense for the PAC 4 to merge with the MW and then poach 2-4 AAC teams.
 
exit fees aren't an issue if there is a merger. but the exit fee for MW teams is much higher than it is for AAC teams so it only makes sense for the PAC 4 to merge with the MW and then poach 2-4 AAC teams.
Presumably they don't want Hawaii, San Jose State, etc.
 
this might be his best one yet.

what makes the AAC more appealing than the MW to the PAC4? once the pac4 merges with MW and renegotiates its tv deal they can just poach Rice and Tulane and/or SMU.
Some of the MWC teams aren't good adds. Some of the AAC teams are. The challenge is avoiding the exit fee without taking say, Wyoming.
 
Are they there yet? The way it looks to me is that every time we are about to get a bid it leaks and someone else jumps. Been like that since this all started. Especially with the Big 12. seems like that's their way of saying last chance to jump to anyone else that might be hoping for something bigger but maybe willing to jump if they get spooked as a last resort. It's not like anyone else from the PAC really was excited about the big 12. They went as far as saying they didn't want it then a few days later they were all over it.
I mean why would the Pac4 teams need a push? If they were any hope of them receiving an invite, it would have already happened.
 
I mean why would the Pac4 teams need a push? If they were any hope of them receiving an invite, it would have already happened.
In my opinion, it hasn't happened because the 15th is tomorrow. Big12, and PAC rest, is waiting for what happens with the ACC. IF FSU suddenly leaves, that starts a whole boatload of dominoes falling so the Big12 is sitting pat until tomorrow. if everything stays as is we see what happens. But like the guy said there is no reason for the leak unless there's they are trying to accomplish something with it.
 
Presumably they don't want Hawaii, San Jose State, etc.
Some of the MWC teams aren't good adds. Some of the AAC teams are. The challenge is avoiding the exit fee without taking say, Wyoming.
and presumably the PAC4 dont want charlotte, ECSU, north texas, FAU, etc. either

no MW team is paying a $34 mill exit fee to join the PAC4, so 9 of the 12 MW teams need to vote to dissolve the conference and thereby eliminate the fees, but they probably arent going to do that without assurances that none will be left behind.

AAC schools have a 27-month notice requirement and a $10 million exit fee. While some schools might pay that to join the PAC4 they wouldnt be able to join in time for the 24-25 season without negotiating a higher fee like UConn did.

from where i'm sitting, it looks like a PAC4/MW merger, and the addition of Rice/Tulane/SMU/Memphis in 27 months is the best option.

second option is the PAC4 convincing 4 AAC schools to pay a higher exit fee now, in order to fulfill the minimum 8 team conference requirement, and then adding the best MW teams in 2 years (when they each pay a decreased exit fee of $16.5 million).
 
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That's the game. Production quality is fine if they want it to be. The issue is achieving universality of access. The network TV channels have it. ESPN has it. FSI falls just short of it. Everything else? Peacock isn't going to have it. Paramount+ isn't going to have it. Hulu isn't going to have it.

I thought FS1 passed ESPN for number of homes it is in.
 
I find the spreading out of games onto exclusive services the bigger pain which is what MLB is doing this season: some games on MLB.tv, some are just blacked out so you better have cable, some on Apple TV, some on Peacock, etc. I guess MLB makes more money by selling the parts than just selling the whole package of games. Reminds me of the B1G's new TV contract in spreading out the games to every major network because they could rake in more money than just selling half the games to ESPN and the other half to Fox/BTN.

I don't enjoy bouncing around all the different apps to find games I want to watch much fun either. For games I care about like UConn athletics, I just hit the record all or display all and let the smart TV find the app the games are being broadcast on.
 
0 hope we join the big 12, it'd be cool if we magically did but doubt, I think they really want Stanford, likely won't get them and finish expanding till the ACC collapses
 
Stanford is flirting with the big 10, not XII. No way we get an invite to 10
Stanford is doing more than flirting. It's standing stark naked outside the B!G's window begging. They already tried flirting.

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Stanford and Cal are everything the B1G Presidents would want in new additions. They just aren't what Fox/NBC/CBS want in new additions.

Wildcard: With the additions of Oregon and Washington, the discussion of going to a 10-game conference schedule, and the possibility of adding Stanford or maybe even Cal, the B1G will have more inventory to sell to a 4th media partner. With 4 (or more) west coast teams, that could include a late-night bundle of games as well. Maybe adding Stanford (and possibly Cal) will be tied to what the 4th media partner is willing to pay.
 
Stanford and Cal are everything the B1G Presidents would want in new additions. They just aren't what Fox/NBC/CBS want in new additions.

Wildcard: With the additions of Oregon and Washington, the discussion of going to a 10-game conference schedule, and the possibility of adding Stanford or maybe even Cal, the B1G will have more inventory to sell to a 4th media partner. With 4 (or more) west coast teams, that could include a late-night bundle of games as well. Maybe adding Stanford (and possibly Cal) will be tied to what the 4th media partner is willing to pay.
B1G wants to sell that 4th time slot to ESPN, and ESPN should jump on it. The B1G has enough big names now that all 4 time slots can have entertaining matchups.
 
B1G wants to sell that 4th time slot to ESPN, and ESPN should jump on it. The B1G has enough big names now that all 4 time slots can have entertaining matchups.
ESPN has a lot of college football content that can air at 8 PM or later. They have part of the Big 12 that includes Central time schools, 2 Mountain time schools and 2 Pacific time schools (Arizona doesn't do daylight savings time). They also have AAC games with Central time schools, CUSA with 2 Mountain time and Central time schools, SBC with Central time schools.
 
ESPN has a lot of college football content that can air at 8 PM or later. They have part of the Big 12 that includes Central time schools, 2 Mountain time schools and 2 Pacific time schools (Arizona doesn't do daylight savings time). They also have AAC games with Central time schools, CUSA with 2 Mountain time and Central time schools, SBC with Central time schools.

True, but do the teams ESPN currently have access to out west move the needle in terms of viewership numbers? There are only 4 Pacific Time Zone schools that can move the needle in terms of television ratings, and they are now all in the B1G.
 
Does anyone give a spit about the prime time lineup on NBC or CBS or ABC is now? I couldn't even tell you what shows are on it. So why are people still debating time slots on ESPN like it is 2010?
 

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