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[noeynox]

Sarcasm aside, I've been calling for us to can M golf, M/W tennis, M/W cross country to get down to NCAA minimum and save some cash.

It's only a matter of time before we see moves like this.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yep.

Who is Elizabeth?

 

[mavblues]

Who is Elizabeth?

The dudette of West Virginia.

Mrs. Dude

 

[HuskyHawk]

The dudette of West Virginia.

Mrs. Dude

If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. I'll let that be my guide.

 

[huskymedic]

Could be anything - typical boilerplate BOD/BOR language for projects/contracts. Stadium is switching from Pepsi to Coca Cola?

II. Report and Action from Executive Session Presenter: Chairman Tilman J. Fertitta

A. Approval is requested to delegate authority to the Chancellor and Chairman to take actions precedent for and to negotiate various contract matters on behalf of the University of Houston in the Division of Athletics as such action may be necessary prior to the next regularly scheduled Board of Regents meeting - University of Houston. Action: Approval Presenter: Chairman Tilman J. Fertitta

B. Approval is requested for the delegation of authority to the Chancellor to negotiate a prospective naming gift at the University of Houston in accordance with University of Houston System Administrative Memorandum 08.A.04 - University of Houston. Action: Approval Presenter: Chairman Tilman J. Fertitta

 

[MattMang23]

The dudette of West Virginia.

Mrs. Dude

I hope that pic was not taken inside of The Dude's mother's house because rather than spending all day dreaming up hypothetical conference realignment scenarios, he could instead focus on updating mom's home. I'm sure she would be thankful to be rid of that 1940s wallpaper.

 

[psilotic]

Men's Baseball ,Soccer ,Hockey and Track,and every women's sports are all money losers .Women's sports alone lose $20,000,000 a year.

Yep, I'll bet Susan will be signing off on that one

 

[JSM1970]

Let OU and UT out, they can drag along OSU and someone else and merge the remaining parts into the AAC. Wouldn't be the worst outcome for UConn, and who knows maybe a goose drops a B1G or ACC future bid from the heavens.

Tim Montemayor ‏@TheMontyShow 7h7 hours ago
I am told there are as many as 6 #BIGXII members against expansion with no clear supporter of expanding the conference as of today.

Tim Montemayor ‏@TheMontyShow 7h7 hours ago
#TCU has become more assertive in the #BIGXII expansion conversation telling #Boren two weeks ago they were not in favor

Tim Montemayor ‏@TheMontyShow 5h5 hours ago
Sources saying OU was holding GOR over other members heads and now they want out on a free pass #BIGXii

 

[Jimbo]

Let OU and UT out, they can drag along OSU and someone else and merge the remaining parts into the AAC. Wouldn't be the worst outcome for UConn, and who knows maybe a goose drops a B1G or ACC future bid from the heavens.

In that scenario, I would expect whoever's left in the Big 12 to simply backfill by cherry-picking the most attractive available schools from the AAC or wherever. I think that's far more likely than a wholesale merger with the AAC (and would also probably create a stronger conference with a lot less dead weight).

 

[nelsonmuntz]

In that scenario, I would expect whoever's left in the Big 12 to simply backfill by cherry-picking the most attractive available schools from the AAC or wherever. I think that's far more likely than a wholesale merger with the AAC (and would also probably create a stronger conference with a lot less dead weight).

If the Big 12 loses Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas, it is unlikely they are adding anyone. The remaining league is no better than the MWC or AAC without the three anchor schools.

 

[Marty Jackson]

It's P5 or AAC until the BE buyout runs out. Anything else would lose you money.

isn't that in the next year or so?

 

[noeynox]

If the Big 12 loses Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas, it is unlikely they are adding anyone. The remaining league is no better than the MWC or AAC without the three anchor schools.

Just as the Big East was allowed to keep their seat at the BCS table, the Big 12 will keep their P5 tag, till this contract period runs out.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I think the Big12 could have a longer life than that if the Big12 GOR happens after the BCS contract. I think they are both right around 2024/2025.

If the BCS contract is first, not sure how they could whittle the P5 down to P4 without breaking the Big12 GOR.
These things have been incredibly fluid so it will be interesting to see how things transpire. Will it be Big East 2.0? The GOR makes it a little different from the Big East situation... but greed has a way of finding solutions and if there is a desire to reduce the number of mouths, someone will figure it out.

regardless, you can bet ESPN will have their fingerprints on whatever ends up happening.

 

[TRest]

I think the Big12 could have a longer life than that if the Big12 GOR happens after the BCS contract. I think they are both right around 2024/2025.

If the BCS contract is first, not sure how they could whittle the P5 down to P4 without breaking the Big12 GOR.
These things have been incredibly fluid so it will be interesting to see how things transpire. Will it be Big East 2.0? The GOR makes it a little different from the Big East situation... but greed has a way of finding solutions and if there is a desire to reduce the number of mouths, someone will figure it out.

regardless, you can bet ESPN will have their fingerprints on whatever ends up happening.

I thought the playoff has supplanted the BCS. The P5 designation can remain with a weakened B12, the only real meaning it has is voting rights on NCAA football matters and automatic berth(s) in New Year's Day bowls that are not part of the playoff that year. The automatic bowl berth(s) may get yanked if the 2 big dogs leave the B12 in the future.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I thought the playoff has supplanted the BCS. The P5 designation can remain with a weakened B12, the only real meaning it has is voting rights on NCAA football matters and automatic berth(s) in New Year's Day bowls that are not part of the playoff that year. The automatic bowl berth(s) may get yanked if the 2 big dogs leave the B12 in the future.

you are correct. I'm calling the new format BCS although technically it is the College Football Playoff.

If OU and UT are out of the conference before that contract expires (originally 12 years I think), the Big12 as a P5 conference is dead. It's the automatic berth in the NY6 and voting that matter and they would certainly lose that. The Big12 would be relegated to G5 status almost immediately under the new contract unless there is a complete overhaul in the structure that doesn't resemble today's build.

If the new Playoff contract is signed while UT and OU are members, I can't see the Big12 getting left out or anything materially changing. In that case, the Big12 may have bought enough time to sustain itself by grabbing some additional schools and allowing them to develop over time. However, when has anything like that happened? It doesn't because nothing happens by accident or by chance. Everything that is done creates more money for fewer mouths. So with that, what you might see is a change in the wording or some change definition change of what is P5 allowing for conferences to be evaluated after the departure of more than 1 team or some other metric (essentially allowing for the Big12 to be reclassified as a G5 should UT and OU leave)... I think you might also start to see the term P4 mentioned more and more...

From that standpoint, I think the Big12 will be very much like the Big East. It's value will be constantly challenged and questioned until perception is reality. Big12 and ACC knew what the stakes were. The Big12 is now the weakest conference, not by opinion but by fact. Only a matter of time before schools of value jump to one of the other P5 conferences (OU and UT are guaranteed a spot along with whoever they take with them). The others will get the run-out on the P5 contract (maybe elevate a couple programs in that timespan (Cincy, UofL and USF), and then go the way of the AAC and MWC.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I think the Big12 could have a longer life than that if the Big12 GOR happens after the BCS contract. I think they are both right around 2024/2025.

If the BCS contract is first, not sure how they could whittle the P5 down to P4 without breaking the Big12 GOR.
These things have been incredibly fluid so it will be interesting to see how things transpire. Will it be Big East 2.0? The GOR makes it a little different from the Big East situation... but greed has a way of finding solutions and if there is a desire to reduce the number of mouths, someone will figure it out.

regardless, you can bet ESPN will have their fingerprints on whatever ends up happening.

Isn't there some clause in the B12 by law that states if a certain number of schools leave the conference, the conference cease to exist? That would be a quick way to end the GOR.

If OU, OSU, Kansas, and Texas bail tomorrow, would that kill the conference? I remember reading something about that.
B12 is dead man walking. Why wait until 2024 or 2025? B12 can destroy itself tomorrow if right number of schools leave now.

 

[kyleslamb]

Isn't there some clause in the B12 by law that states if a certain number of schools leave the conference, the conference cease to exist? That would be a quick way to end the GOR.

If OU, OSU, Kansas, and Texas bail tomorrow, would that kill the conference? I remember reading something about that.
B12 is dead man walking. Why wait until 2024 or 2025? B12 can destroy itself tomorrow if right number of schools leave now.

Correct. If seven or more members vote for dissolution, the conference ends and the obligations arising out of the media agreement and grant of rights cease to exist as well.

 

[Pudge]

I see no expansion happening for the B12. The politics simply are far too complex to get the votes.

Blaudschun (and Dodd, PLUS about 8 other Media writers) are just clueless guessing. I doubt the Big East, for one, would bring UConn in. They had that hassle for 20 + years; why would they do hybrid ever again. And nobody is going MAC.

Frankly, without expansion, the AAC has potential. Major markets and far cheaper. If it is true that Kansas State in this contract or Rutgers in their new structure ... and others ... are getting $25-40m per year; there has got to be distribution that gets UConn and other AAC up quite a bit. That still means that we have a fiscal problem.

 

[Ldandy]

Just as the Big East was allowed to keep their seat at the BCS table, the Big 12 will keep their P5 tag, till this contract period runs out.

Don't you need at least 8 schools to be considered a viable conference?

 

[noeynox]

Don't you need at least 8 schools to be considered a viable conference?

Is that the number? I'm sure they will backfill like the Big East did.

 

[jostar1]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 26m26 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
UC is dead.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 23m23 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
There is a block against UC with 4 no votes. I'm not the only one reporting it now.

Daniel Mountcastle ‏@Expansion_Crush · 24m24 minutes ago  Atlanta, IN
@theDudeofWV
if UC is dead then expansion is dead

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@Expansion_Crush
No. There is still time for BYU to salvage its candidacy & for UT to give up something to get UH the votes.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 19m19 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
If UT & OU truly wanted out they would add 4 & cash the checks.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 18m18 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
If the B12 can't add who the networks want the best action for the viability of the conf is not to expand.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 14m14 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
B1G fans looking for a true signifier for UT & OU's commitment need to look no further than expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 12m12 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
If B12 adds 4 it's doomed. If it adds anyone but UH & BYU it's doomed. No expansion is positive for B12.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 2m2 minutes ago
@CincyBeerGuru @Expansion_Crush
Its about how Texas can guide the conf to prosperity or doom. If Texas truly wants UH it gets UH.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 1m1 minute ago
@CincyBeerGuru @Expansion_Crush
Plus the networks also prefer UH & BYU or no expansion. They actually want no expansion but UH & BYU ok.

 

[jostar1]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13m13 minutes ago
@CincyBeerGuru @Expansion_Crush
I'm saying the networks have been clear. It's BYU & UH or they push back on expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13m13 minutes ago
@CincyBeerGuru @Expansion_Crush
Also I was the only one saying WVU opposed UC until Thamel wrote it.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 13m13 minutes ago
@CincyBeerGuru @Expansion_Crush
WVU is part of a block that would vote yes on UH & no on UC. 4 solid no votes & no way to turn them.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 12m12 minutes ago
@CincyBeerGuru @Expansion_Crush
UC is effectively out.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 7m7 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
How about this. WVU has traded a vote for UH for votes against UC & a vote for BYU for votes against UC.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 5m5 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
I've come to believe Berry's theory that the B12 never intended to expand.

 

[jostar1]

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 9h9 hours ago
The UH meeting is very interesting. No idea what it indicates..
Enough there IMO to keep an eye on..

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 7h7 hours ago
Big 12 expansion losing momentum: No grant of rights extension, ranking candidates …
No B12 GOR extension is not shocking...told this months ago
OU & UT will keep options open..exit ramps clear 2024

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 7h7 hours ago
Somebody does need to notify @theDudeofWV that is pronouncements of an added UH gets UT to extend GOR is BS.

Jus B ‏@CincyBeerGuru · 7h7 hours ago
@flugempire He finally agreed with you that it won't be expanding after riding the BYU/HOU or BYU/UConn train for months.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
@CincyBeerGuru
To be fair..the BYU and other stuff blew it up.
But there was never going to be extension of B12 GOR. OU never would agree

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 7h7 hours ago
The ? is not if FOX/ESPN have direct incentive to dismember B12
The reality is both have incentive to make certain assets happier in future

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 7h7 hours ago
@CincyBeerGuru
To be fair..the BYU and other stuff blew it up.
But there was never going to be extension of B12 GOR. OU never would agree

Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire · 7h7 hours ago
@DooleyMcStitch
Boren held out hope all 3 reforms would happen. But OU vision of future B12 is completely 180 degree different from UT's.

Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire 2h2 hours ago
Tramel: Blame OU and Texas for Big 12 instability
All of this is quite obvious. The Horse n Buggy Conference with the RC COLA marketing plan. B12 Death Rattle

 

[kyleslamb]

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 19m19 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
If UT & OU truly wanted out they would add 4 & cash the checks.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 18m18 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
If the B12 can't add who the networks want the best action for the viability of the conf is not to expand.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV · 14m14 minutes ago
@Expansion_Crush
B1G fans looking for a true signifier for UT & OU's commitment need to look no further than expansion.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

So The 'dude' spends all this time talking about how no one can get votes for expansion and it's dead, and all this time talking about how the networks have pushed back on expansion because no one adds enough value, but somehow the league failing to find anyone to add money so they can cash checks is an indication Oklahoma and Texas is committed to the league?

LMAO.

This guy is a hoot.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

B12 is a dead man walking like many of us predicted. It is done. I don't see how anyone can keep this mess together. There are simply way too many agendas in this conference to make it work. My only wish it collapses sooner. UCONN and the leftovers can at least form a better conference than the AAC.