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I have been anxiously awaiting Uconn's new marketing face in the AAC....building a national brand.

Much like the branding symbols Osceola on Renegade, the Boomer Sooner wagon, etc...UConn too is working on visual branding.

The sled dogs hauling ass down the field with their fur trimmed handler yelling "Mush, you Huskies", will bring crowds roaring to their feet.

The new cheer rocking the stadium on offensive drives will be..."Hoo yah, Mush!!"
 
I have been anxiously awaiting Uconn's new marketing face in the AAC....building a national brand.

Much like the branding symbols Osceola on Renegade, the Boomer Sooner wagon, etc...UConn too is working on visual branding.

The sled dogs hauling ass down the field with their fur trimmed handler yelling "Mush, you Huskies", will bring crowds roaring to their feet.

The new cheer rocking the stadium on offensive drives will be..."Hoo yah, Mush!!"
Maybe a DJ at the stadium and some kind of whistle.
 
Don't forget about tossing free t-shirts into the crowd. Nothing says Connecticut more than the sounds of a booming t-shirt launcher.

While they can't completely retire the original Jock Jams CD, they did pick up a copy of Jock Jams 2 at a tag sale in Coventry so expect some pretty major changes.
 
Like you said we all need to see how everything shakes out. The G5 Schools will not be kept out of anything IMO. They will however be handicapped by both their conference affiliation/sos, and the general public's own bias. They will likely need to be undefeated, have at least one quality ranked win OOC and then get some help elsewhere. Your example of WSU having a once in a lifetime season should have no bearing on the G5. If they go undefeated or 11-1, they potentially had to go through teams like Oregon, Stanford, and USC to do so. They would have earned their way in. If however they go 6-6, squeak into a conference title game and win it, they should not qualify over any other deserving team.

O.K. -- just at the most superficial level pointing out why some are choking at your posts here:

1. You said "and the general public's own bias." Where in the determination of an athletic champion -- much less the rights of student athletes in mostly government institutions -- should the public's bias have any factor whatsoever? Do you really think MLB is going to forego the playoffs and just let the Yankees and Red Sox play in the World Series because that would generate the most interest?

2. You make statements about conferences being better as if that should be relevant. We are dealing with governmental entities? Why don't they have rights based on performance, where, for example, UConn's would be superior to say Vanderbilt's? Why do you -- why should anyone -- accept the starting point that any benefits from a governmental system should be distributed based on whom you associate, rather than individual characteristics of individual schools

Enough. There is no real theoretical justification for any of this. This is about ADs trying to grab money, not for the benefit of shareholders (which is the justification for self serving actions in the private sector) but so they can get bigger salaries and Presidents trying to improve their school's prestige to help their resume and ego. It deserves no more discussion than that.
 
O.K. -- just at the most superficial level pointing out why some are choking at your posts here:

1. You said "and the general public's own bias." Where in the determination of an athletic champion -- much less the rights of student athletes in mostly government institutions -- should the public's bias have any factor whatsoever?It shouldn't but it will. Television, namely ESPN will spend 4 months shaping that bias. The committee tasked with selecting the participants in this new playoff won't be above this bias. Do you really think MLB is going to forego the playoffs and just let the Yankees and Red Sox play in the World Series because that would generate the most interest? If they could get away with it, who knows? Personally I would be afraid to find out. Thankfully MLB has a 100+ year history of having its division champs, and now wildcards, play it out on the field. NCAA Football has a century+ of conference commissioners, bowl committees, and TV Executives deciding who would be allowed to play for a title. They will not cede that control over night. IMO The new tournament will be a simple evolution of an already corrupt existing formula.

2. You make statements about conferences being better as if that should be relevant. We are dealing with governmental entities? Why don't they have rights based on performance, where, for example, UConn's would be superior to say Vanderbilt's? Why do you -- why should anyone -- accept the starting point that any benefits from a governmental system should be distributed based on whom you associate, rather than individual characteristics of individual schools Personally I would have no problem with every school being independent, setting a schedule, and having to sink or swim on their own merits. However with schools sponsoring 30+ sports that is basically impossible. In an ideal world UCONN would be judged on what it achieves on the field. In the real world the public just says "Yeah but UCONN is in the AAC, so it is not that impressive." Fair? Hell no. Reality. Sadly yes.

Enough. There is no real theoretical justification for any of this. This is about ADs trying to grab money, not for the benefit of shareholders (which is the justification for self serving actions in the private sector) but so they can get bigger salaries and Presidents trying to improve their school's prestige to help their resume and ego. It deserves no more discussion than that.You'll get no argument from me. When it comes to the future of college sports I hope for the best but expect the worst. I.E. The SEC running a semi pro league with pros masquerading as "student athletes" Oh wait...
 
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I have enjoyed 100+ years of division champions playing playoff baseball. I remember that 1934 ALCS like it was yesterday.
 
2) Do you have data on TV ratings/"appeal" of UConn vs BC/Syracuse/Pittsburgh/Louisville?





35 Pittsburgh 2,074,000 1.3 5





38 Boston College 1,734,125 1.2 4





47 Louisville 1,435,375 1.0 8





61 UConn 1,013,250 0.6 4






http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013...atings-2013-regular-season-final-sec#comments

No numbers on Syracuse. Remember that UConn has had to compete under an unfair TV contract situation, with limited exposure and, even then, they drew more than several P5 schools. Their real value is basketball and Olympic sports. Ball so hard. Playing against the best that's out there.

I really hate these comparisons. They've already proven their worth. Only the arrogance of some schools is blocking them.
 
This thread reminds me of a bunch of guys going to Kelsey's bar in Archie Bunker's neighborhood and arguing about whether their BMW or Audi is nicer
 
This thread reminds me of a bunch of guys going to Kelsey's bar in Archie Bunker's neighborhood and arguing about whether their BMW or Audi is nicer
Who Ha you're a blast...I love you're style...I agree...this thread is as subjective as the importance of the silly APR!! LOL..I wouldnt have bothered posting but you hit the spot with Kelseys Bar and Archie Bunker!!
 
So is it "TV executives (/ratings)" or "the arrogance of some schools" that keeps UConn out of the ACC? I am not following your argument.
 
clmssun said:
So is it "TV executives (/ratings)" or "the arrogance of some schools" that keeps UConn out of the ACC? I am not following your argument.


So we are going to base UConn's potential ratings on our 3 and 4 win teams of the Pasqualoni era playing USF and Temple?

Sounds fair.
 
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  1. Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 9h
    @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle BE BB schools had enough votes to block anything the football schools wanted to do.
  2. Michael DeCourcy@tsnmike 8h
    @theDudeofWV @zlefever12 @MitchVingle False.
  3. Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 4h
    @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle WVU & Pitt blocked that.
  4. Michael DeCourcy@tsnmike 4h
    @theDudeofWV @zlefever12 @MitchVingle But you said it was BB schools who were problem
  5. Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 3h
    @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle Why would WVU be happy with sharing FB $ with 7 schools who don’t play football? Why would any school?
  6. Sir Thinks-A-Lot@theatheistteach 3h
    @theDudeofWV @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle It's a fragile equation. Short-term it's great. Long-term? It's as valuable as UT says it is
  7. Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 3h
    @theatheistteach @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle That’s true…
  8. Sir Thinks-A-Lot@theatheistteach 3h
    @theDudeofWV @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle Scary for the Big X12
Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 3h
@theatheistteach @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle I really don’t think so. At least not for 7 years.
  1. Sir Thinks-A-Lot@theatheistteach 3h
    @theDudeofWV @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle We'll see, I suppose. Not trolling, just making observations
  2. Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 3h
    @theatheistteach @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle I know that UT is the reason the B12 is intact. They signed the GoR.
  3. Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 3h
    @theatheistteach @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle But you have to worry about the B12’s footprint & the future.
  4. Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV 3h
    @theatheistteach @tsnmike @zlefever12 @MitchVingle I had the same thoughts…but the new Prez could be pro B12.


    ME: Somewhere between moonshine and more moonshine you hear the voice of concern from him.
 
Matt Wyers‏@mkw_14 10h
@theDudeofWV So what do you think of Powers resigning at Texas?

  1. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9h
    @mkw_14 He’s been under fire for some time. I’m anxious to see who replaces him.
  2. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9h
    @mkw_14 Who replaces him will have a great affect in the future of the Big 12.
  3. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9h
    @mkw_14 Not immediately because of the GoR but & other factors on play but don’t discount the significance of UT’s next hire.
  4. Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 9h
    @theDudeofWV A UT guy said a while back that many UT people were pushing for an SEC-friendly administration.
  5. Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 9h
    @theDudeofWV Is it possible that one of the reasons Powers was dethroned was that he didn't have the "correct" vision for the future?
  6. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 5h
    @mkw_14 I’m not sure. But I do think Powers holding on to the FB coach was a factor.
  7. Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3h
    @mkw_14 One thing about the SEC…they don’t like duplicate markets. Diminishing returns & all…
  8. Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 1h
    @theDudeofWV True enough, but I think the SEC would make an exception in certain circumstances.
  9. Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 1h
    @theDudeofWV If UT and OU were both willing to join together then I don't see the SEC turning that down.
  10. Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 1h
    @theDudeofWV However, I think a lot would depend on A&M's perspective.
  11. Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 1h
    @theDudeofWV It would also depend on whether or not the SEC can secure full coverage in TX for the SEC Network.
  12. Matt Wyers ‏@mkw_14 1h
    @theDudeofWV If not then UT would make all the sense in the world.
  13. Gregory D. M. K. ‏@GregGregoryKJ 31m
    @mkw_14 @theDudeofWV What kind of vote do SEC schools have? Would they need a unanimous vote for UT? Is there anyway A&M would want UT?

ME: I doubt A&M would receive UT enthusiastically but might swallow it since they're in their dream conference. Mizzou left the B12 to get away from Texas. It would be an almost-B12 situation for them again. One thing for sure is that this scenario would force the Big Ten to start merger talks with the PAC immediately.
 
Is this a serious tweet? SEC has two schools in Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee. They're going to balk at UT because they don't want a second Texas school?

Seems to be the doctrine...when discussing FSU to the SEC.
 
Seems to be the doctrine...when discussing FSU to the SEC.
No offense but FSU ain't Texas. UT owns Texas. UF owns Florida, hence FSU's redundancy. Same goes for Clemson or GT.
 
ME: I doubt A&M would receive UT enthusiastically but might swallow it since they're in their dream conference. Mizzou left the B12 to get away from Texas. It would be an almost-B12 situation for them again. One thing for sure is that this scenario would force the Big Ten to start merger talks with the PAC immediately.

The SEC would love to get UT and Oklahoma, and A&M wouldn't have a say. The B1G is not going to merge with the Pac. If Texas and Oklahoma went to the SEC, the logical response would be for the B1G to pick up Kansas and UConn. Top basketball league. Anything with the Pac could be done later, but there would be an immediate need for the B12 schools to resolve their situations.
 
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Two years ago...from the Book of Kook archives:

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV
@hihoze @JSi07 Its back on again. B12 agreed to add FSU as 11.
 
Two years ago...from the Book of Kook archives:

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV
@hihoze @JSi07 Its back on again. B12 agreed to add FSU as 11.
I wish it was true. Then UConn would not be in this position thanks to FSU. I still hope Louisville kicks them in the nuts.
 
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Dooley said:
Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 2h If the AAC is significantly involved in the new structure then expect the Big 12 to expand to gut the AAC.


If the AAC gets gutted, the remains will join forces with the MWC and create the same problem. You can't gut the AAC without taking UConn. Take Cincy and UCF and the league will keep moving forward. I don't think the B12 will take UConn solely due to location, so I'm not sure I buy the B12 expanding to kill the AAC.
 
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It wouldn't just be the B12 that would try to "gut" the AAC. No P5 conference wants to share any money with a P6th.

I guess UCONN fans finally have a reason to root for the AAC: pimp up the IDEA that the AAC should be a 6th P and hope it sticks. I guess it would first start with leading the parade to convince every AAC member to adapt whatever the P5 passes. If the impression is out there that the AAC could/would/should become a P6 threat, then we would see the CR train leave the station again.
 
Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV Jul 20
Who’s ready for unfounded expansion rumors during B12 meeting week? Can I start one?

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV Jul 20
Lets see… how about this: the B12 will consider adding JR members. The JR member gets 1/4 conf ) & only 3 conf home games for first 6 years.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · Jul 20
Or how about this: A few AAC schools will attend B12 meetings & plan to kidnap Bowlsby & hold him hostage until they are admitted.

ME: Who knows. Maybe it'll come true after all. ;)


Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
If the AAC is significantly involved in the new structure then expect the Big 12 to expand to gut the AAC.

Mo Persinger@hmpersinger3 Jul 21
@theDudeofWV why would we do that when none of the teams add tv value? Esp if we can stage C Game with 10?

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
@hmpersinger3 Leverage. Potential playoff $ and conf cut of pie + TV networks willing to throw some extra $ into the contract.

John Ashworth@Poca_Ashworth Jul 21
@theDudeofWV who would be at the top? Cinci, UCF, Houston?

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
@hmpersinger3 Yet its just a possibility. One that's real. August will reveal all.

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
@hmpersinger3 I should add real and at this point remote. Maybe 20% chance...

Mo Persinger@hmpersinger3 Jul 21
@theDudeofWV no one is going to give us any extra $$$ (including me) for Cinncinnati and UCF.

Mo Persinger@hmpersinger3 Jul 21
@theDudeofWV we need to stay pay at 10 unless we can get FSU and Clemson

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
@hmpersinger3 It's a calculation based on playoff $ and the possibility of markets being added.

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
@hmpersinger3 That's not going to happen. That ship sailed. So did Louisville... Thank Deloss Dodds for that...

Mo Persinger@hmpersinger3 Jul 21
@theDudeofWV WVU would be double hosed by AAC expansion because league would spilt and we would only play good teams every other year.

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
@hmpersinger3 My thoughts are the Big 12 has to expand & movement is done. the Big 5 will stay the Big 5 until they eventually merge.

Christopher Lambert@theDudeofWV Jul 21
@hmpersinger3 Then we'll see location based divisions.

FD 1207@FD1207 Jul 21
@theDudeofWV @chiucfgal UCF would add a top 18 tv market, FL recruiting, 2nd largest university and still growing (medical city) and more.

Daniel Freer@DWFreer Jul 21
@theDudeofWV The AAC won't stand pat. Many of their current members produce more revenue and TV ratings than many Power Trip 5 schools

ME: Just have a P6 instead of this complicated mess.
 
UCF would add a top 18 tv market, FL recruiting, 2nd largest university and still growing (medical city) and more.

Interesting how UCF was consistently scoffed at as a Big East expansion candidate. There was the USF President's reluctance to add a nearby competitor capable of diverting attention and recruits (sound like BC?). Looks like
a BCS Bowl win and #1NFL QB Draft choice got folks to take another look and analyze them differently. Now they seem to be coveted.
 
UCF would add a top 18 tv market, FL recruiting, 2nd largest university and still growing (medical city) and more.

Interesting how UCF was consistently scoffed at as a Big East expansion candidate. There was the USF President's reluctance to add a nearby competitor capable of diverting attention and recruits (sound like BC?). Looks like
a BCS Bowl win and #1NFL QB Draft choice got folks to take another look and analyze them differently. Now they seem to be coveted.

If anyone in the AAC was coveted they wouldn't be in the AAC.
 
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