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[Rufus]

I'm not even fully convinced the ACC wanted them as they didn't get enough votes the first time until they basically accepted 0 money for the first few years

Very True.

What the ACC is becoming wanted them. The ones that voted no are all leaving.

 

[KryHavok]

Very True.

What the ACC is becoming wanted them. The ones that voted no are all leaving.

The irony of which several of those wanting to leave also didn't vote for or wanted UConn yet Calfordsmu was able to sneak in. Can we call a mulligan?

 

[billybud]

Calford,SMU came in on a confluence of events....the ACC needing to immediately have teams on board to avoid ESPN calling in the Composition Clause if two teams left the conference before 2025...and having needy teams ready to not only pack their travelling shoes but play on the cheap...

If you have time (and give a patootie)...this guy on College Football Addiction really breaks down where the ACC may be going...

 

[KryHavok]

Thanks for that link @billybud. So this doomsday scenario in the vid must have BC cr@pping bricks if the contract gets kiboshed... v(^_^)v

 

[NH Husky]

Calford,SMU came in on a confluence of events....the ACC needing to immediately have teams on board to avoid ESPN calling in the Composition Clause if two teams left the conference before 2025...and having needy teams ready to not only pack their travelling shoes but play on the cheap...

If you have time (and give a patootie)...this guy on College Football Addiction really breaks down where the ACC may be going...

What’s blatantly obvious is what a trainwreck the ACC has been over the last 20+ years and how fortunately for UConn that they “kicked us in the nutsack” several times. It’s like a successful family owned business being run into the ground by stupid and inept children. Every one of their moves has been shortsighted and impulsive.
Every school that left the old Big East for the “riches” of the ACC has seen their football and basketball brands suffer mightily.
I do believe/hope UConn will have Big 12 or other options before the ACC. As much as I resent the attitudes of the former BE teams, I’d consider a football only alliance with some of them even under the name ACC but with completely new management. And dumping BC amongst a few others. BC is quickly becoming Holy Cross.

 

[billybud]

Louisville did finish in the top 20 last season… respectable.

 

[NH Husky]

Louisville did finish in the top 20 last season… respectable.

Just ahead of Liberty

 

[billybud]

And ahead of most big Ten and SEC and Big 12 teams.

 

[Forte]

How hilarious would it be if SMU's pending entry into PAC12 led to its collapse and then immediately after its pending entry into the ACC led to its collapse? Wonder which conference would be willing to take the hit next.

 

[jostar1]

Calford,SMU came in on a confluence of events....the ACC needing to immediately have teams on board to avoid ESPN calling in the Composition Clause if two teams left the conference before 2025.

billybud, thank you for posting that video. I've watched it twice to try to understand what is going on. He does make some statements or assumptions which may or may not be true...specifically, that ESPN does not intend to renew the media deal in 2027.

The above statement doesn't appear correct. Cal, Stanford and SMU were not added to avoid triggering the Composition Clause if FSU and Clemson leave. The Composition Clause will still be triggered if two teams leave.

The ACC triggered it by adding Cal, Stanford, and SMU.

Cal, Stanford and SMU were added as a money grab to try to appease ACC members.

Per this article:

"...the ACC did not expand because Stanford, Cal and SMU offer competitive upgrades in the sports that matter (they don’t) or because they add equal revenue value to the existing television contract (they don’t) or because they make geographical and logistical sense for a conference that exists exclusively in the Eastern time zone (they don’t).

The ACC expanded because there was a pool of television money ESPN was contractually required to give it because of conference expansion, and most of that money will be hoarded by the existing members while the newbies subsidize their athletic departments in other ways. In SMU’s case, the desperation to get into a power conference was so strong, it reportedly agreed to forego a media-rights distribution for its first nine years as a member of the ACC.

In other words, SMU is going to literally pay to play in its new league despite being competitively irrelevant in its old one.

ACC adding Stanford, Cal, SMU feels like a new low in college sports

Even in a college sports industry that struggles to find the bottom, ACC expansion is a new low. A thriving conference does not run toward this.

www.usatoday.com

Explanation of the Composition Clause:

The ACC’s contract with ESPN, which is valued at $155 million a year, contains a standard line called a “composition clause” that allows either the conference or ESPN to reopen the deal if membership increases or decreases by at least two schools. The conference or the network can act on that clause any time the conference’s membership changes by at least two schools.

Expanding ACC will reopen ESPN deal

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

 

[jostar1]

C.W. Lambert@InsideTheBig12
Serious post... been saving this one... don't want the blowback. As of today, ESPN plans to pick up the option on the ACC's contract. Why? ESPN will pick up the option, unless Clemson and FSU buy their way out of the ACC, to prevent Clemson and FSU from leaving for the B1G.
2:53 PM · Apr 16, 2024

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C.W. Lambert@InsideTheBig12
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3h
Sources share information for a reason. They have an agenda. The reason, in this case, is clear. It's a message to Clemson and FSU. You can negotiate your way out of the ACC and into SEC profitability but forget about the B1G unless you have $512M.


C.W. Lambert@InsideTheBig12
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3h
Let me add to the message. Hey Clemson/FSU... you are more valuable to ESPN than everyone else in the ACC. ESPN prefers you stay in the ACC, but if you have to leave, then ESPN will work with you and the ACC to transition ya'll to the SEC.

C.W. Lambert@InsideTheBig12
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3h
But, ESPN has invested too much money in the ACC to let Clemson and FSU jump to the B1G.



C.W. Lambert@InsideTheBig12
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2h
I keep trying to think of ways that Clemson and FSU end up in the Big 12... but I can't identify any plausible scenario where it could happen. The Big 12 can't anger ESPN or Fox.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[JMick]

It'll never happen but it would be hilarious

 

[upstater]

100% nonsense.

The move to drop Nebraska from the AAU was made in committee one year prior Nebraska being booted from the AAU.

The heads of that committee were the Michigan President, with one other B1G President as the 2nd.

They knew they were tossing Nebraska from the AAU BEFORE Nebraska joined the B1G.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[upstater]

The bigger question: with the A&M campus roiled by 3 incredible scandals in the last 12 months, will A&M be able to continue recruiting players from all backgrounds? Even while a chunk of its students and alums are telling some kids to reconsider enrolling there?

I suppose these things get forgotten rather easily, but that place is amazingly messed up.

 

[John]

Some of you may not know that his nickname is Greg "wrong hot take" Swaim.

 

[CL82]

So can we merge with our med school too? That's really the only thing that stands in between Connecticut and an AAU slot.

 

[Rufus]

Swaim puts too much nonsense out there. I need credible sources to report on either of these "developments". Until then, Nebraska is firmly safe in the B1G and Texas A&M is firmly in the SEC.

 

[UConnJim]

Texas A&M to the Big 10? It would be a death sentence for their football program.

 

[GoConn]

Throwing stuff at walls and hoping it sticks

 

[storrsroars]

Texas A&M to the Big 10? It would be a death sentence for their football program.

I don't know why TAMU would consider leaving the SEC for the B1G, but they haven't won a conference championship since 1998, and have only 3 NY6 bowl appearances in the past 25 years, so it's not like they're thriving.

 

[Waquoit]

I don't know why TAMU would consider leaving the SEC for the B1G, but they haven't won a conference championship since 1998, and have only 3 NY6 bowl appearances in the past 25 years, so it's not like they're thriving.

I imagine they are running away from Texas. It's what they do.

 

[freescooter]

Throwing stuff at walls and hoping it sticks

This strikes me as a lot of nonsense. Nebraska isn’t reorganizing it’s higher education system for the Big 10 not is the Big going to ask them to do it. And Texas A&M to the Big seems a non-starter for both sides. Texas maybe. It’s a death sentence for A&M and the Big gets what? Another Purdue without the basketball?

 

[billybud]