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FfldCntyFan said:
I don't buy it (unless we become a force on football within the next 12 months). For the ACC to justify adding us in our current state it would require an admission on their part that they need to improve their current content in men's hoops. They'll kick UNC out of the conference for academic fraud before they would admit that.
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It's tier 2 and 3 content which is needed for accn, yes?
 
It's been pointed out to me today that I'm a skeptic. The ACC trying to develop a network is best case scenario for UConn.
 
whaler11 said:
It's been pointed out to me today that I'm a skeptic. The ACC trying to develop a network is best case scenario for UConn.
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Don't take it so hard. I just can't live in a world where UConn is 15% to beat BYU at home.
 
SubbaBub said:
Don't take it so hard. I just can't live in a world where UConn is 15% to beat BYU at home.
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No one that I have spoken to thinks UConn has a chance. Therefore, UConn is likely to win.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
For the ACC to justify adding us in our current state it would require an admission on their part that they need to improve their current content in men's hoops.
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Yeah, not following that logic at all. Why would they just talk about our NCs, success across a broad range of sports, good academics, NYC presence etc.?
 
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CL82 said:
Yeah, not following that logic at all. Why would they just talk about our NCs, success across a broad range of sports, good academics, NYC presence etc.?
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Agree. This isn't about hoops at all. It's about building an ACCN. In order to do that, the conference needs to think MARKETS (ironically, the ACCN could probably be launched right now had they added UCONN over Louisville or Pitt). Did the B1G just add Rutgers and Maryland to admit that their football isn't that good?? Of course not. They were added for the BTN cable boxes. That's it. The fact that UCONN just so happens to be an elite hoops powerhouse is just a bonus to any conference network!

And here's some Dooley speculation: between UCONN, BC, and Cuse, would that be enough of a carrot to dangle in front of ND to join full-time?? Pure speculation on my part about ND, but they've always wanted games in the northeast for their alumni. If the ACC offered a sweetheart deal allowing them to keep NBC money AND give them a portion of ACCN profits while offering a larger recruiting territory that extends further south and annual games in the northeast, it might (MIGHT!) be something for ND to at least think about. Let's say it is enough - the ACC would very easily satisfy both the football schools by adding ND and Tobacco Road by adding UCONN. It would be a huge win-win for the ACC and especially the ACCN.
 
Dooley said:
Agree. This isn't about hoops at all. It's about building an ACCN. In order to do that, the conference needs to think MARKETS (ironically, the ACCN could probably be launched right now had they added UCONN over Louisville or Pitt). Did the B1G just add Rutgers and Maryland to admit that their football isn't that good?? Of course not. They were added for the BTN cable boxes. That's it. The fact that UCONN just so happens to be an elite hoops powerhouse is just a bonus to any conference network!

And here's some Dooley speculation: between UCONN, BC, and Cuse, would that be enough of a carrot to dangle in front of ND to join full-time?? Pure speculation on my part about ND, but they've always wanted games in the northeast for their alumni. If the ACC offered a sweetheart deal allowing them to keep NBC money AND give them a portion of ACCN profits while offering a larger recruiting territory that extends further south and annual games in the northeast, it might (MIGHT!) be something for ND to at least think about. Let's say it is enough - the ACC would very easily satisfy both the football schools by adding ND and Tobacco Road by adding UCONN. It would be a huge win-win for the ACC and especially the ACCN.
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Good thought process...only thing about ND is this Dooley: They will stay Indy until the playoff committee forces them to join a conference. If they start to choose the 4 teams based off of conference championship games...ND will get boxed out and forced to make a decision (hypothetical: FSU (lose to ND win ACC championship game vs Clemson), Bama (1 loss to LSU), USC (1 loss to Stanford), and OU get in...ND on the outside looking in). That's when things will get interesting that's for sure.
 
FDNY99 said:
Good thought process...only thing about ND is this Dooley: They will stay Indy until the playoff committee forces them to join a conference. If they start to choose the 4 teams based off of conference championship games...ND will get boxed out and forced to make a decision (hypothetical: FSU (lose to ND win ACC championship game vs Clemson), Bama (1 loss to LSU), USC (1 loss to Stanford), and OU get in...ND on the outside looking in). That's when things will get interesting that's for sure.
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Agreed. A whole bunch of things would need to fall into place for them to give up their independence. The playoff system would need to apply the real pressure (which I think it will eventually). The academic scandal could also apply some pressure. So if those two things get ND to think about giving up their independence, and the ACC can offer them southern football recruiting, plenty of northeast games for their alumni, and a nice little sweetheart NBC/ACCN deal, it would definitely be something to consider.
 
Dooley said:
Agreed. A whole bunch of things would need to fall into place for them to give up their independence. The playoff system would need to apply the real pressure (which I think it will eventually). The academic scandal could also apply some pressure. So if those two things get ND to think about giving up their independence, and the ACC can offer them southern football recruiting, plenty of northeast games for their alumni, and a nice little sweetheart NBC/ACCN deal, it would definitely be something to consider.
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Academic pressure? Ha, ha. ND has it faults; but, at least they are taking it like a ‘man’ so to speak. They appear take their academic code quite seriously (I knew a kid who kicked-off the football team for pot use) and admitted that they have a problem, which, of course, will be ignored by the NCAA. This stance is the opposite of UNC, who academic ranking is close to ND’s. The Tar Heels, now that they have been dragged out from under the bed kicking and screaming after being (apparently) caught red handed, is still in denial and has focused their effort on dropping napalm on anyone who comes out against them.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Academic pressure? Ha, ha. ND has it faults; but, at least they are taking it like a ‘man’ so to speak. They appear take their academic code quite seriously (I knew a kid who kicked-off the football team for pot use) and admitted that they have a problem, which, of course, will be ignored by the NCAA. This stance is the opposite of UNC, who academic ranking is close to ND’s. The Tar Heels, now that they have been dragged out from under the bed kicking and screaming after being (apparently) caught red handed, is still in denial and has focused their effort on dropping napalm on anyone who comes out against them.
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My daughter visited UNC about a month ago, while we were watching the admissions video before the tour, they interviewed a student who said he chose UNC because of their academic integrity. My daughter leaned over to me and said, "obviously he doesn't play football or basketball".
 
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Oxford Bob said:
My daughter visited UNC about a month ago, while we were watching the admissions video before the tour, they interviewed a student who said he chose UNC because of their academic integrity. My daughter leaned over to me and said, "obviously he doesn't play football or basketball".
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or follow them.
 
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 32m
When the Fighting Irish finally officially releases their 2017/18 and beyond Football Schedule...look for an incredible flexiable schedule..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 28m
..that can be flipped to a limited ACC schd to an 8 game conf schd. ND NBC relationship not going away...but 2017/18 = built-in flexability

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 25m
.....been told it will be obvious ND is building escape hatch from Independence when Football Shed released "17" and beyond. Keep eye on.
 
In other news:

Look for Chris Rock to keep his schedule flexible so that he can make a run at a 2016 presidential bid. He will still be touring but the dates will be flexible so that he can do campaign stops as well. Something to keep an eye on.
 
CL82 said:
In other news:

Look for Chris Rock to keep his schedule flexible so that he can make a run at a 2016 presidential bid. He will still be touring but the dates will be flexible so that he can do campaign stops as well. Something to keep an eye on.
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I'd vote for Chris Rock.
 
CL82 said:
In other news:
Look for Chris Rock to keep his schedule flexible so that he can make a run at a 2016 presidential bid. He will still be touring but the dates will be flexible so that he can do campaign stops as well. Something to keep an eye on.
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OkaForPrez said:
I'd vote for Chris Rock.
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THAT AIN'T RIGHT!!

 
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 25m
Discussions in creating a quasi-ACCN among Raycomb-ACC-ESPN-NBC is the center of the Conference Realignment Universe for the next 8 months

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 23m
The ACC is a tinderbox - ACCN is the possible firehose. Many hurdles to overcome. Raycomb would need to be overpaid/or part owner to....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 20m
....to put their inventory avaiable for new ACCN. Disney would have to take it in the shorts to create the new network....but if Disney....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 19m
....does not act...scarcity of product will only drive up the price/value of the Big 10 TV contract which Disney will take part in with $$$$

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 17m
All indications are showing Disney will prop up the new ACCN (as they did with LHN) so not to give Century FOX more window into East Coast.

reg Flugaur @flugempire · 14m
ACC schools need this to happen..period. ND & NBC will be part of all discussions. Disney is going to overpay for partial Tier 1 B1G.....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 12m
....and I repeat..all indications given are that Disney is willing to take it in the wallet to form a ACCN with many moving different parts

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 6m
The creation of the ACCN and ND's leaving Indep are tied to the hip. The dots do connect. Either ACCN gets created (we believe yes).or....

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 4m
...the ACCN does not get created..either direction leads to realignment in some form. VT watching. UVA Littlepage worried about ACC branding

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 1m
The reason Littlepage voted for a 9 game Conf Sch was because he is worried about ACC branding/marketing vs. new B1G marketing on E. Coast

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 3s
To be blunt......the bottom half of the ACC (in reference to AD budgets) is flat out broke. Montizing local/regional markets through TV....
 
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Dooley said:
Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 24m
.....in the land of the ACC is not working...can't work. Disney looks like they are willing to keep FOXCENTURY at bay...by overpaying..

Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 21m
..the ACC intact. But even the decision to create the ACCN will result in more Conference Expansion (ND+1). ACC-DISNEY-RAYCOM-NBC talking
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If we could only have our football program get their act together
 
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ESPN should not be too worried about ESPN and ESPN2. There are plenty more sports to fill those hours if they lose access to some of the big conferences. How many conferences does ESPN really need? At least one of the P5 is going to stay with ESPN forever because of the exposure alone.

There comes a time when ESPN decides its dollar can be better spent elsewhere on pro sports.

Does ESPN really have anything to fear from the ACC?

I don't think so. What is the ACC going to do? Go Big East on FS1? No.
 
upstater said:
ESPN should not be too worried about ESPN and ESPN2. There are plenty more sports to fill those hours if they lose access to some of the big conferences. How many conferences does ESPN really need? At least one of the P5 is going to stay with ESPN forever because of the exposure alone.

There comes a time when ESPN decides its dollar can be better spent elsewhere on pro sports.

Does ESPN really have anything to fear from the ACC?

I don't think so. What is the ACC going to do? Go Big East on FS1? No.
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who needs more choice than 3 networks? that mentality worked well.

ESPN doesn't fear the ACC. they fear paying P5 money for a conference that mostly resembles the old Big East plus WF.
 
Marty Jackson said:
who needs more choice than 3 networks? that mentality worked well.

ESPN doesn't fear the ACC. they fear paying P5 money for a conference that mostly resembles the old Big East plus WF.
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Spot on. They have dragged their heels on an ACCN because they're not completely certain that the football heavyweights are locked in. Now if somehow, some way ND could be convinced to join as a full-time member, that would go a very long way towards securing the future of ACC football. They could add UCONN as a 16th to make things nice and neat, lock down the huge northeast markets, and satisfy the football and hoops schools of the conference all at the same time. But in order for all this to happen, the ACC/ESPN would need ND to join full-time. If they offered a sweetheart deal that allowed them to keep NBC money PLUS give a portion of ACCN revenue, it might be something for the Domers to consider. I still have my doubts, but it would certainly be something to consider.
 
Marty Jackson said:
who needs more choice than 3 networks? that mentality worked well.

ESPN doesn't fear the ACC. they fear paying P5 money for a conference that mostly resembles the old Big East plus WF.
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It's more like they don't want to buy something they already own.
 
Dooley said:
Spot on. They have dragged their heels on an ACCN because they're not completely certain that the football heavyweights are locked in. Now if somehow, some way ND could be convinced to join as a full-time member, that would go a very long way towards securing the future of ACC football. They could add UCONN as a 16th to make things nice and neat, lock down the huge northeast markets, and satisfy the football and hoops schools of the conference all at the same time. But in order for all this to happen, the ACC/ESPN would need ND to join full-time. If they offered a sweetheart deal that allowed them to keep NBC money PLUS give a portion of ACCN revenue, it might be something for the Domers to consider. I still have my doubts, but it would certainly be something to consider.
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if it were the Big East I think the schools might consider giving ND a bigger payout. Not sure Florida St. or Clemson would sign up for that.
 
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