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  1. whaler11

    whaler11 Kickoff: 11:11

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    Since you want to go there. I'm not celebrating anything - this all started discussing morons like you who believe anyone on twitter who claim to have sources.

    A: That's not what's in your thread. Do you need me to prove it?

    B: Your ideas for the future are idiotic. Yes the only thing UConn can do is stay in the American.
     
  2. sportsart

    sportsart College Football has stage P5 cancer.

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    I have an adult woman as my avatar and you have a cartoon character. You really can't make this sheet up. But you keep trying.

    By the way...here's a clue seeing I know you don't have one.

    The difference between you and 95% of this board? They/we post an opinion on the subject at hand to contribute to the atmosphere. You only post to be right AND tell the other people how right you are and how wrong they are. Fact.

    Please continue the "Whaler11 be all that" tour. What's your opening act "Chief and his bitches?"
     
  3. Exit 4

    Exit 4 This space for rent

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    <-- True - you did say that and it was insightful.

    <--I don't recall it that way. Many on the Boneyard including myself did not belief that the ACC would break apart. That wasn't a great leap or keen insight, it was common sense.

    <--This chapter is hardly over. You can't declare victory here until the GOR is extended through at least 2030 to be more on par with the ACC.

    <--And yet they won't extend the GOR? Why? Because the TV people spent this summer waking them up to the new cable box reality. They also learned a boat load about media markets and advertiser needs from the consulting firms brought in for this whole expansion circus and I am sure what they saw was alarming, the B12 as it stands does not have the market power to match the ACC, B1G, SEC and PAC in a more disciplined media rights landscape. When it becomes crystal clear that the next media deal will put the B12 well behind the other conferences, they will look to take that off ramp. Its difficult to say however if the other conf will have an on ramp at that point.

    <--we'll see - you'll be right when the B12 GOR is extended with UT and OU as members.
     
  4. whaler11

    whaler11 Kickoff: 11:11

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    You recall it incorrectly about the ACC. There are thousands of
    posts here about how they were the dead P5 conference.

    The Big 12 GOR hasn't been extended because there isn't any reason to do so. When 2025 rolls around and revenue is declining - Oklahoma isn't going to be the solution to any problem. They are going to have zero outs.

    Every MWC and AAC school
    is going nowhere. They are pretty much shut out for eternity.
     
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  5. NYUConn

    NYUConn

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    To be fair, the ACC posts were prior to their network being announced when there were audible grumblings out of Georgia Tech, FSU and some others that the GOR they had signed was worthless without the network.

    Prior to the network announcement, I think it was fair to question the longterm viability of the ACC.

    You deserve credit for being right when you were right, but I don't anyone here can necessarily slam other people's takes (outside of those who advocated UConn dropping football) when circumstances were very much fluid.
     
  6. Exit 4

    Exit 4 This space for rent

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    And there were thousands who said it was staying. You were hardly alone on this one.

    There will be pressure and opportunity at the expiration of the B12 GOR for UT and OU to move. It will be the last move. Their is the chance market dynamics give the PAC, SEC, B1G or ACC the fuel to add a super state like Texas to the revenue machine, even in a declining revenue world.
     
  7. whaler11

    whaler11 Kickoff: 11:11

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    There was almost no one saying the ACC would survive. That is not even close to what the narrative was at the the time.
     
  8. whaler11

    whaler11 Kickoff: 11:11

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    Wrong time frame. ACC doom was the narrative 18-24 months ago.

    I'm not slamming anyone's takes here - I get that most people post based on what they want to happen.

    Again this all started about the fantasy that Flugar has contacts and provides inside insight.
     
  9. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.

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    I said repeatedly that anyone who predicted the pending death of the ACC was not credible. Don't paint with a broad brush like you're the only one that held that position, many here did. The simple reality is and always was, that they have key institutions in some of the most rapidly growing states in the country, and are well positioned, even if the SEC and B1G have encroached on their turf (which was arguably the most valuable of all the conferences).

    As an alumn of a current B12 law school, I was always wary that those schools wouldn't have the vision to see the reality. They are highly local, provincial places, who don't really want to associate with anyone outside the region (including WVU). I hoped that they'd get past it, but I'm not terribly surprised that they didn't. I think Boren knew that the footprint was holding the league back, but the fans and others simply love the fact that they have the last geographically cohesive 10 team round robin league. In many ways, they are correct that in an ideal world they'd be able to keep it as is.
     
  10. Mr. Conehead

    Mr. Conehead

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    Texas and Oklahoma can't get into the football playoffs today as the XII stands. Thus, thus I suspect that they would be glad to face the same problem in the ACC/B1G/PAC/SEC while making several million dollars more a year.
     
  11. Exit 4

    Exit 4 This space for rent

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    I could see a $20MM+ per year chasm opening up in 2025 between the B12 and the avg of the others. If the media outlets provide any grease to move, it will be difficult to ignore.
     
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  12. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd.

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    Umm...Oklahoma got in last year. They just aren't that good this year. If Baylor or WVU runs the table they have a shot. Washington has a great shot to win out. Michigan and tOSU play each other in the last game, and tOSU also plays Nebraska before then. A&M plays Alabama this week, so one unbeaten will go down. A&M has Ole Miss and LSU left as well.
     
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  13. hardcorehusky

    hardcorehusky Randy's back and you're gonna be sorry!!

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    Holy crap, a Barry Horowitz sighting on the Boneyard!!
     
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  14. auggie22

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    Credit where can edit is due - you nailed the big 12 and ACC expansion forecast, confidently.

    As things have played out as you predicted, what is the impetus for UCONN to eventually be in the ACC ( as you have also predicted on a number of occasions)?
    This is a real question, not rhetoric.
     
  15. Mr. Conehead

    Mr. Conehead

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    With Texas & Oklahoma having off years (in Texas' case, it more like an off decade), an undefeated Baylor is not getting in over a 1 loss A&M/Alabama/Michigan/Ohio St team not with their SoS. They beat lowly Iowa St by 3 and have non-conference wins over Northwestern State, SMU and Rice. WVU is slightly better with non-conference wins over Missouri, Youngstown St, and BYU which are better names; but, BYU and Missouri are a combined 6-7 this year.
     
  16. CL82

    CL82 It's going to be ok - calm down and enjoy the ride

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    Geesh, if you really want to keep talking about how wonderful you are, how about doing in a mirror instead of on the board. That way you'll have an audience that just might give a crap.
     
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  17. Marty Jackson

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    Curious... Is this a response to a post. I have the usual suspects on ignore so I see so many of these one-sided conversations.

    Whaler?
     
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  18. mavblues

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    I'm not sure either but I assume Whaler is going off on one of his/her usual tirades.

    But if we're taking victory laps, I posted that BYU had a LGBT problem, and I did it well before it became a popular topic in the press. I even created a separate thread for it which (ahem) somebody around here deleted.

    Also, I started the B1G thread, which will ultimately be proven correct. (BTW, who edited/rewrote my original post in the B1G thread? Some of that is clearly not my writing style. It looks like HFD took a hatchet to the post, but I don't think he was ever a mod.)
     
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  19. Waquoit

    Waquoit

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    Serious question, what does this mean?
     
  20. kyleslamb

    kyleslamb

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    It basically means Fox and Mark Silverman would like Oklahoma to join the Big Ten. Silverman is presumed to be the next commissioner when Delany retires and Oklahoma has had a great working relationship with Fox already.
     
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  21. Waquoit

    Waquoit

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    Yup
     
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  22. businesslawyer

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    Wait -- we get to take victory laps just for telling people they are idiots?

    I'm going to have to start dieting.
     
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  23. CoastAtlantic

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    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 14h14 hours ago
    Heads up Dinner with BTM Saturday evening October, 22nd Subjects: B10 HCKY EXP = Iowa 2018/19? OU has already made decision to leave B12

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 14h14 hours ago
    Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur

    https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/789110646977601537… More Saturday night. Iowa will have internal meetings - HCKY EXP early next year OU will bolt B12 no later 2024

    Murr ‏@MurrDCU 13h13 hours ago
    @flugempire has OU sent out feelers or just got more ducks in a row?

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 13h13 hours ago
    @MurrDCU More info Saturday night. BTM will tell us why B1G believes OU has already made decision to leave B12 no later than 2024.

    JimdishCT ‏@HuskyCast 3h3 hours ago
    @flugempire @MurrDCU They tried to make something happen. Stymied by Texas politics, LHN and ESPN I suppose.

    Murr ‏@MurrDCU 3h3 hours ago
    @HuskyCast @flugempire ...and Fox

    Weeda Hilt ‏@WeedaHilt 13h13 hours ago
    @flugempire Greg do u think PAC 12 will have them with or without Texas

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 13h13 hours ago
    @WeedaHilt Great question. IDK. In 2011 it was no. Years from now it might have to be yes.

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
    Dude of WV is still steaming OU Contacts on Sept 22nd said there would be no expansion and did no hedging for last 25 days..unlike himself

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
    Greg Flugaur Retweeted Greg Flugaur

    https://mobile.twitter.com/flugempire/status/789266094842257408… Chris just sent me 2 emails threatening to expose me that OU contacts said something different before 9/22. No duh

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
    And now Chris is wondering why the "Relief Plan" that OU Contacts explain to all of us is being discussed in other places... ..well.

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
    Reminder: Dinner with BTM Saturday Night.

    Steve Bullard ‏@stevebullard 4h4 hours ago
    @flugempire Man, expansion has people on edge, I guess.

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 4h4 hours ago
    @stevebullard Just imagine 2 years from now when OU & UT have not extended the B12 GOR. Chris will start to understand the "Relief Plan"

    Pat McKenzie ‏@patmckenzie68 3h3 hours ago
    @flugempire what is BTM- you reference it a lot

    Greg Flugaur ‏@flugempire 3h3 hours ago
    @patmckenzie68 Short for Big Ten Man. Gentlemen who has broken quite a few stories on our Twitter account for 2 1/2 years



    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
    Berry Tramel said in his chat today that the B1G is a pipedream for OU. He also said he didn't expect the SEC come calling.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
    I agree with Berry that the Big 12's future is murky beyond 2025. I also think Pac12 membership would be harmful to the OU program.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
    I wish we could just move past this Big 12 stuff. So how about this...I'll tell you guys when to worry.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
    Don't worry. Be happy. About $7M in new revenue heading the Big 12's way.

    Cujo ‏@SportsCujo 7h7 hours ago
    @theDudeofWV I'm not 100% convinced. SEC was calling OU after they added Texas A&M, I'm not sure Missouri filled the OU void.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 7h7 hours ago
    @SportsCujo You know the answer to that as well as I do. Market is changing. Expansion is no longer profitable.

    Cujo ‏@SportsCujo 6h6 hours ago
    @theDudeofWV SEC was the first to have a conference championship game, they may become the first to have a conference championship playoff

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
    How come the Flugar apologists didn't respond to the the evidence of his lies?

    Brian Gorby ‏@Georgia_Mountie 6h6 hours ago
    @theDudeofWV If OU & UT wanted to leave, they would have expanded to max aloud in contract. Taken $, paid new a minimum, then bolt in 2025.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
    @Georgia_Mountie I agree. Not expanding showed that everyone committed to the Big 12.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
    I'm not sure why people think UT and OU pledged loyalty to the Big 12 only to start packing their bags.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 6h6 hours ago
    If OU & UT hadn't committed to the Big 12 the conference would have expanded. Both to bank the extra cash & have enough members to survive.

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
    I'm trying to track down a crazy BS rumor started by @flugempire. Its so BS crazy its worth researching. here it is..

    [​IMG]

    Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 4h4 hours ago
    I want to find the original rumor wherever it appeared first. It could be Flugar made it up entirely on his own.




    GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim 12h12 hours ago
    Make no mistake about it, OU and Texas are already having third party talks with #SEC, #B1G, #ACC, #Pac12 for future conference realignment.

    GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim 9h9 hours ago
    #Huskers, #TAMU, #Mizzou, #Buffs each left the #Big12, because of Texas,, which is why #UT isn't going #SEC, and the #B1G is a longshot.

    GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim 8h8 hours ago
    #Pac12 media feel certain P12 will try for best four #Big12 teams they can get, to get to 16, and add the CT zone market for TV.

    Kansas Jayhawks‏@KansasHoopstalk
    @GSw aim Greg. If you had to guess .... what do you think the fate is for Kansas Oklahoma Texas , tech , Osu.

    GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim 6h6 hours ago
    GREG SW AIM SHOW Retweeted Kansas Jayhawks

    Kansas to #B1G or #ACC, who put more into hoops. The other four to #Pac12.

    GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim 6h6 hours ago
    Told by an attorney who knows conference realignment that teams can make decision public to leave the #Big12 without actually leaving now.

    SoonerSource‏@Sooner_Source
    @GSw aim they could but why on earth would they do that 8 yrs before the GOR expires?

    GREG SW AIM SHOW 5h5 hours ago
    GREG SW AIM SHOW Retweeted SoonerSource

    Probably not eight years, but a few years.

    StevO‏@StevO_1960
    Shouldn't Iowa State, Baylor, TCU and K STATE go ahead and commit to the PAC-12 or another conf? Wait & get left out! Musical chairs

    SHOW ‏@GSw aim 5h5 hours ago
    SHOW Retweeted StevO

    Private schools are not going to be in high demand, nor will Iowa State. Cyclones don't expand B10 footprint.

    Kansas Jayhawks‏@KansasHoopstalk
    @GSw aim acc??! Interesting . Have even heard sec talk some even though f ball blows. Yet to hear ACc. Maybe because geography? Ty Greg

    GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim 5h5 hours ago
    GREG SW AIM SHOW Retweeted Kansas Jayhawks

    KU being ACC accredited helps as well, and would expand B10 footprint, which they've showed they want.

    Kansas Jayhawks‏@KansasHoopstalk
    @GSw aim thanks Greg. Just hope Kansas moves in general at this point. Can't afford to be "left behind"

    GREG SW AIM SHOW ‏@GSw aim 5h5 hours ago
    GREG SW AIM SHOW Retweeted Kansas Jayhawks

    While realignment is generally about football, Kansas Basketball is the exception.



    ME: If you thought the Twitter Follies would end after the Big12 no-expansion announcement...:p
     
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  24. Husky92

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    Yeah, it's hard for me to care about CR right now.
     
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  25. mavblues

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    I make a motion that M H V E R and Dude aren't posted here anymore.

    M H was exposed as a complete fraud, and Dude isn't even entertaining anymore.

    I didn't mind their stuff before, but with the Dude in particular, he definitely feeds off of the notoriety.
     
  26. c29328

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    I think we need a new category. Maybe "Less Than Non-Key Tweets". I want it to be a serious repository for this crap so I suggest a companion post for comments only. I don't want to dilute the product. Who's with me?
     
  27. The Funster

    The Funster Purveyor of fine bullspit

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    How about "Sometimes amusing, sometimes downright psychotic tweets" thread
     
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  28. Husky25

    Husky25 Dink & Dunk beat the Greatest Show on Turf.

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    Once this motion gets to the Discussion phase of Robert's Rules or Order, I will argue vehemently against it. There is already at least 4 threads either directly or indirectly devoted to tweets of these Wish-I-knew-something know-nothings, the board cannot abide another toe.
     
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  29. Fishy

    Fishy Puncher of Throats

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    Expansion is dead, but tune in as the West Virginia nitwits and their midwestern adversaries make their pivot to keep the fun rolling until 2025.
     
  30. WestCoastHusky

    WestCoastHusky

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    At this point, I am realigned out. I got no more energy for this anymore. All we can do is sit tight and wait for the B12 to blow up.
     
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