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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 4292693, member: 1414"] To be clear, it's effective when players who are not the center do it. It's even effective in spots when the center does it. We just use it with the 5 way, way too often. What drives me mad is when a team with two bigs, like Creighton, uses it to pull the 5 out so the other big can score easily inside. That should be a flashing red light for Hurley that he can't pull the 5 from the paint. Meanwhile, we put Whaley outside, and the big who would come out on him in our defense, stays inside so Sanago is doubled and no guards have a path to the rim. [/QUOTE]