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Leebo said:
He played against Maine, so unless you're expecting a season-ending injury before he appears in 30% of our games (the criteria for a medical redshirt), his eligibility is being used.

I'm not even entirely sure you could even redshirt him without an injury just by not having him play as a freshman either. Does that exist in basketball?
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Yes, it exists. It rarely happens for a high major based on the type of recruits they bring in but is more prevalent for mid and low majors.
 
Leebo said:
He played against Maine, so unless you're expecting a season-ending injury before he appears in 30% of our games (the criteria for a medical redshirt), his eligibility is being used.

I'm not even entirely sure you could even redshirt him without an injury just by not having him play as a freshman either. Does that exist in basketball?
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They'd obviously have to make sure Enoch is OK with it, but it's very easy to fudge a redshirt. Calhoun openly regretted not redshirting Gavin Edwards his freshman year so he'd be around for the championship season.
 
Enoch will get his shot to play, it's just a matter of time and matchups. There will be a game when offense is need over defense; where guys ahead of him are in foul trouble; when the starters don't play well and he gives a spark; etc. He's a freshman who is fairly new to the game, and definitely new to big time basketball. He'll be just fine.
 
We can't redshirt enoch, both nolan and brimah have shown a history of committing a massive amount of fouls in big games. and its not like facey has shown some modicum of consistency...

Its completely understandable why he isn't getting minutes, he's the 5th big on the depth chart! this whole 'ko is sending him a message' , horses ass...its not like he is waiting to be unleashed, he is behind bodies.
 
Until Ollie says why Enoch didn't play, I would take it as a situation where we just don't know. A mystery, if you will. No comprende.

I would also point out that there has not been a single indication that Enoch needs any kind of "message," in fact, he has been praised for being very open to learning.
 
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I would think that facing a zone defense the entire game might have something to do with Enoch's lack of playing time. Enoch is very raw and learning how play against a zone may be a bit beyond him at this time. I'm expecting to see him get some minutes against Furman.
 
intlzncster said:
he's not going to transfer. Seriously. You make him sound like a prima donna.
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he's an idiot, don't pay him any mind. He still thinks KO played Nolan over Lubin due to "loyalty" and now he starting to spout the same mindless nonsense with Nolan/Enoch.
 
Whoa… I think there's some overreaction here… Transfers? Bad Attitide?

I'm thinking if anything KO is just trying to push the kid to possibly work harder & earn some minutes because he see's the potential here…

Not a big thing...
 
J-dog said:
Whoa… I think there's some overreaction here… Transfers? Bad Attitide?

I'm thinking if anything KO is just trying to push the kid to possibly work harder & earn some minutes because he see's the potential here…

Not a big thing...
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I think he got a little overhyped going into the season, lot of beat writers throwing out crazy quotes like "enoch is the real deal, everyone here knows it", a quote like that alludes to SE being a starter or getting major tick. I never thought that was the case, just way too much size and experience ahead of him. Maybe if we never landed miller.
 
Hilton Armstrong. Donnell Beverly. There are two guys who had a lot of others in front of them and spend most of their careers (especially Beverly) not getting as much playing time as they'd have liked. They didn't jump ship as they had dedication to the program. Basically the point is, not everyone who rides the pines as a freshman is going to be on the first plane out of Bradley at the end of the season.
 
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Love his potential but the game was close enough. Winning is #1. Not surprised the #11 man sat.
 
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azescobar said:
Enoch will get his shot to play, it's just a matter of time and matchups. There will be a game when offense is need over defense; where guys ahead of him are in foul trouble; when the starters don't play well and he gives a spark; etc. He's a freshman who is fairly new to the game, and definitely new to big time basketball. He'll be just fine.
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This. My guess is that Ollie made the decision based on the opponent and the match up and where the young-en is in his development.
 
Ollie is playing for a national championship. If Enoch can him give one good minute in one game against Kt or Duke in the Final Four, I don't think he will red shirt him.
 
Rico444 said:
Then how the hell has Facey played at all the last two years? I seriously doubt that's the message, because there's plenty of kids here that have played terrible defense over the last few years and still got a few minutes here and there.
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Last year there was literally no choice.
 
James said:
We can't redshirt enoch, both nolan and brimah have shown a history of committing a massive amount of fouls in big games. and its not like facey has shown some modicum of consistency...

Its completely understandable why he isn't getting minutes, he's the 5th big on the depth chart! this whole 'ko is sending him a message' , horses ass...its not like he is waiting to be unleashed, he is behind bodies.
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If there were no message being sent, KO would get him some time and game experience against the early season cupcakes, precisely because of your first sentence -- we're going to need him later, so it's good for him to get his feet wet in college ball and get some experience playing in front of 10,000 fans in real games against D1 athletes.

The message is likely something like "you have to earn your playing time by putting in more effort to do what the coaches are teaching / doing more consistently what the coaches taught you to do," likely on defense.
 
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