OT: NIL Impact On European Prospects

[aceboon]

sensationalized YouTube title for algorithm purposes aside, I thought this video was interesting. seems like higher caliber European prospects might be opting to go to college because NIL money is better than what they can get overseas at their age level. The kid BYU signed Egor Demin is projected as a 2025 lottery pick and usually that type of talent stays overseas, St Johns also just signed a player from Portugal who is considered one of their best prospects. Given the offense I wonder if we start seeing Hurley look that way on the higher end of prospects.

only the first couple of minutes is relevant, he has the year wrong about NIL starting but I follow dude for Eurobasket news and he is pretty legit as far as that region

 

[How Sway?!]

I think for the top top guys, like Luka and Wemby, I don't think NIL will be that much of a factor as they are already pros by an early age and iirc, that removes their eligibility.

For the other guys? Probably does influence them but don't think you'll see a big influx of players since European clubs can and will tie them down with a contract if too many prospects leave

 

[mets1090]

Have schools mostly solved the issue of how to easily get international athletes paid through NIL yet? I know it was a Visa issue as opposed to an NCAA issue, but haven't really followed any progress.

I have to imagine that it's a pretty slim middle ground of guys who are good enough to demand a million in NIL but not good enough to get that money or close to it from a local club. You'd imagine someone from e.g. France would prefer to just stay home if they got 80% of the money there.

 

[awy]

euro and other pro leagues may not give enough minutes to raw but talented players. but the NIL impact is more like, now that NIL is here, monetization of NCAA basketball will rise and this leads to a widening gap between euro league and college pay. There's also economic macro situation as well with the dollar milkshake situation and general euro malaise.

 

[aceboon]

one of the players referenced that reportedly got a bigger offer to come play in college than stay overseas. impressive highlights

 

[JT-55]

Men’s Basketball Signs Fedor Žugić - Creighton University Athletics

OMAHA, Neb. – Creighton men's basketball head coach Greg McDermott finalized his 2024-25 roster with the signing of Fedor Žugic from Podgorica, Montenegro.

gocreighton.com

Creighton just added a guy (21 years old when the season starts) who has played professionally in Europe since he was 15. Whatever happened to forfeiting NCAA eligibility once you sign a pro contract? Guess the NCAA just doesn't have rules anymore.

 

[awy]

yea uh just sign doncic if youve got 100 million. one year deal should be doable

 

[aceboon]

he's signed but I don't think that means he's cleared yet. Ivisic had to miss half the season last year for UK and he didn't have anywhere near the same amount of pro experience

 

[superjohn]

he's signed but I don't think that means he's cleared yet. Ivisic had to miss half the season last year for UK and he didn't have anywhere near the same amount of pro experience

Someone in the thread posted a picture of Andrew Gaze. Pros have always played in college. Not sure I'm with Vecenie on this one.

 

[HooperScooper]

Someone in the thread posted a picture of Andrew Gaze. Pros have always played in college. Not sure I'm with Vecenie on this one.

I always thought the NCAA rule was you can play professionally overseas and then play college as long as you didn't get paid in that overseas league. Isn't that how Nadav Henefeld came to UConn? He played 2 seasons in the Israeli professional league before coming to UConn. I think Doron Sheffer played in the Israeli pro league before he came to UConn also.

 

[DogMania]

I always thought the NCAA rule was you can play professionally overseas and then play college as long as you didn't get paid in that overseas league. Isn't that how Nadav Henefeld came to UConn? He played 2 seasons in the Israeli professional league before coming to UConn. I think Doron Sheffer played in the Israeli pro league before he came to UConn also.

That was the case back then, but I have no idea what it is now. So if an incoming player can sign a NIL deal that will earn hard cash, under what set of rules would a player who played in a pro league where he earned money from a pro contract be eligible or ineligible?

I'm okay with players making money from their NIL, but many players choosing their destination based on the most money, if that is what's taking place, just doesn't sit right with me. I'm not blaming anyone from doing so, but just seems to have tarnished the landscape of college sports. Top pro athletes don't have this luxury starting out, earned later once they reach free agency, but incoming college athletes have this from the jump.

 

[uconnfan68]

That was the case back then, but I have no idea what it is now. So if an incoming player can sign a NIL deal that will earn hard cash, under what set of rules would a player who played in a pro league where he earned money from a pro contract be eligible or ineligible?

I'm okay with players making money from their NIL, but many players choosing their destination based on the most money, if that is what's taking place, just doesn't sit right with me. I'm not blaming anyone from doing so, but just seems to have tarnished the landscape of college sports. Top pro athletes don't have this luxury starting out, earned later once they reach free agency, but incoming college athletes have this from jump.

Until they get to the pros… unless they pull an Eli Manning and refuse to be drafted by a team you don’t want to play for.

 

[uconnbill]

Until they get to the pros… unless they pull an Eli Manning and refuse to be drafted by a team you don’t want to play for.

The first was John Elway who didn't want to play for the Colts and forced a trade to Denver.

 

[REB1094]

Lebron never played any college ball..time to give him a call

 

[temery]

I always thought the NCAA rule was you can play professionally overseas and then play college as long as you didn't get paid in that overseas league. Isn't that how Nadav Henefeld came to UConn? He played 2 seasons in the Israeli professional league before coming to UConn. I think Doron Sheffer played in the Israeli pro league before he came to UConn also.

How is it playing professionally if you're not getting paid?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Men’s Basketball Signs Fedor Žugić - Creighton University Athletics

OMAHA, Neb. – Creighton men's basketball head coach Greg McDermott finalized his 2024-25 roster with the signing of Fedor Žugic from Podgorica, Montenegro.

gocreighton.com

Creighton just added a guy (21 years old when the season starts) who has played professionally in Europe since he was 15. Whatever happened to forfeiting NCAA eligibility once you sign a pro contract? Guess the NCAA just doesn't have rules anymore.

Wouldn’t it be a tad hypocritical to bar someone who got paid to play basketball when the NCAA is paying millions in compensation for not paying players.

 

[JT-55]

Wouldn’t it be a tad hypocritical to bar someone who got paid to play basketball when the NCAA is paying millions in compensation for not paying players.

The NCAA hypocritical?.....Nooooooo

But really there needs to be some rules on this. The guy has played 5 years and about 200 games in the highest European league. There needs to be a line.