Nika injury?

[Littlemin]

If Muhl can play, i.e., cleared by the medical people, she will play; if not, she won’t. I believe I am the one millionth poster to suggest leaving the medical decisions to the medical people. Uninformed speculation about injuries, etc. serves no purpose.

 

[Centerstream]

With Nika injured, and Lou and Dorka "iffy"; Roster is down to as few as 6, maybe 7 or 8 .... I wouldn't be surprised if the Maryland game was cancelled.

Notr Dame's game with Lafayette was canceled/postponed due to health reasons. I wonder if this is an option for UConn?

 

[Minicoop69]

can someone post the replay of the injury? I missed that part of the game last night.

 

[hard2please]

im not a doctor but i did stay in a holiday inn express last night. i say let her rest.

 

[Jackalope]

Notr Dame's game with Lafayette was canceled/postponed due to health reasons. I wonder if this is an option for UConn?

I think there is a minimum number of available players needed to hold a game. I tried to google this and couldn't find an answer. When you only have 6 or even 7 players available, the probability of additional injuries increases. Fouling can increase as the other team tries to take advantage of the low player count. Players can get tired if the other team speeds up the game. All this can lead to more injuries.

 

[TCC Kid]

i know that i've already liked the 'stop the speculation' post, but,

cheeze and crackers already, lou has a tender wheel, and, unless they moved her to witness protection, it's still nika who took a couple of knocks to the noggin.
nika muhl. The Nika Muhl.
they're not china dolls, u know.
go ahead, i dares ya, call nika a 'china doll.' then run, fast,
before she clocks you.

I differ. Humans ARE fragile. Humans are tough. AT the SAME Time. I've seen indestructible friends survive the in-survivable.
Then live with years of a damaged body.
I prefer to think of these young ladies, as YOUNG LADIES, college KIDS with lots of mental toughness.
Personally, Nika I doubt would be up set with Ccoatian Doll, China, Maybe.

 

[ccwarrior]

I think there is a minimum number of available players needed to hold a game. I tried to google this and couldn't find an answer. When you only have 6 or even 7 players available, the probability of additional injuries increases. Fouling can increase as the other team tries to take advantage of the low player count. Players can get tired if the other team speeds up the game. All this can lead to more injuries.

5

 

[hoopsfan22]

5

Is it? With the Covid rules it is 7, but I have no idea if those are still in effect.

 

[CajunHusky]

Is it? With the Covid rules it is 7, but I have no idea if those are still in effect.

Cancelling Maryland is an option, as an out of conference game there is really no harm. As a conference game cancelling/forfeiting Seton Hall is more problematic.

[Edit] If it comes down to having to play an injured player to keep five players on the floor then I say cancel/forfeit. No one wants a coach to play an injured player and no one wants to put players in the position of hiding the severity of an injury.

 

[Shenandoah]

If Muhl can play, i.e., cleared by the medical people, she will play; if not, she won’t. I believe I am the one millionth poster to suggest leaving the medical decisions to the medical people. Uninformed speculation about injuries, etc. serves no purpose.

Medical decisions are always left up to the medical staff. Playing decisions are left up to the coaches, after consultation with the medical staff, and to a lesser extent, the players.

 

[CONNCAN]

With Nika injured, and Lou and Dorka "iffy"; Roster is down to as few as 6, maybe 7 or 8 .... I wouldn't be surprised if the Maryland game was cancelled.

Of course, players health and well being are PARAMOUNT and need to come first, but I also feel that there would be allow of pressure from the Executives at ABC/ESPN, who have allot of advertisers lined up for this "Prime Time Sunday Afternoon" game. Thus, from their (ABC/ESPN) prospective, as long as Geno and UCONN shows up (even if there are only 7 or 8 players available) and Maryland is there, they would want the game will go on as scheduled. Also, I don't know what the NCAA Rules state about only having a limited amount of bench players available in order to start a game. Not sure what the rules are.

 

[TerpWomenFan]

With Nika injured, and Lou and Dorka "iffy"; Roster is down to as few as 6, maybe 7 or 8 .... I wouldn't be surprised if the Maryland game was cancelled.

I was talking on the Maryland thread about this.

 

[Centerstream]

can someone post the replay of the injury? I missed that part of the game last night.

The entire game is posted and there is a thread posted with the YouTube link.

 

[Charliebball]

hopefully, the the med staff will be able to determine the severity of the injury...........my daughter got hit on the head by another player's knee while scrambling for a loose ball and she was out for over a month with headaches and dizziness, yet I've seen equally bad contact where the player was back on the floor several days later with zero issues.......

 

[ClifSpliffy]

I differ. Humans ARE fragile. Humans are tough. AT the SAME Time. I've seen indestructible friends survive the in-survivable.
Then live with years of a damaged body.
I prefer to think of these young ladies, as YOUNG LADIES, college KIDS with lots of mental toughness.
Personally, Nika I doubt would be up set with Ccoatian Doll, China, Maybe.

they are not 'kids.' 'kids' are commonly defined as 'children.' they're not children.
they are adults, insofar as those 18 or older.
we almost never read ad nauseum threads and posts of the dr. kildare type at the baseball, hockey, and football threads here. none there spend countless pages yammering on aboot 'the kids and their booboos.'
why is that? aren't those players the same age as the hoopsters? don't all of their age have mostly the same ability for healing?

 

[Khal Drogo]

Can we stop with the speculation please.

This is a forum. Can you just ignore the post and not tell people what they should or should not be posting.

 

[Fairfield Fan]

What's with "finally admitting"?? After Caroline took hits to the head against Creighton and missed several games starting with the Tennessee game, it was public knowledge that she had a concussion, or at least a significant head injury.

If you are arguing about the precision with which the details were reported, that really isn't a fan's business. The players are entitled to a degree of medical privacy. UConn attempts to let fans know what they know about the duration of a player's unavailability, as they just did with Azzi. And if Azzi turns out to need 8 or 10 weeks instead of the 3 to 6 weeks that UConn estimated, that does not prove that anyone was being deliberately misleading or deceptive.

There is no such thing as a fan's "right to know".

UConn never came out and said she suffered a concussion. It was always a "head injury." Why did they refuse to admit it was a concussion? Given how much controversy there is over how universities treat athletes with concussions, shouldn't the university at least admit that a student-athlete is undergoing evaluation for concussion protocol? This isn't an issue of the public's right to know. Across the country, university teams regularly state whether a student-athlete has suffered a concussion, whether one is being evaluated for a concussion, at what stage of the concussion protocol they are, and when they're cleared.

The question is why UConn doesn't adhere to this common practice at virtually every other university?

 

[jaydee602]

That's the advantage of playing a gruelling schedule. If Geno decides to cancel the Maryland game, nobody can accuse UCONN of ducking a tough opponent. They have already played more top 20 games than many teams will play all season!

 

[hoopsfan22]

UConn never came out and said she suffered a concussion. It was always a "head injury." Why did they refuse to admit it was a concussion? Given how much controversy there is over how universities treat athletes with concussions, shouldn't the university at least admit that a student-athlete is undergoing evaluation for concussion protocol? This isn't an issue of the public's right to know. Across the country, university teams regularly state whether a student-athlete has suffered a concussion, whether one is being evaluated for a concussion, at what stage of the concussion protocol they are, and when they're cleared.

The question is why UConn doesn't adhere to this common practice at virtually every other university?

The question is why does this bother you so much? Is it because you must know the medical conditions of the players, or because you believe there is something nefarious going on and the University is trying to cover it up?

 

[HuskylnSC]

I think there is a minimum number of available players needed to hold a game. I tried to google this and couldn't find an answer. When you only have 6 or even 7 players available, the probability of additional injuries increases. Fouling can increase as the other team tries to take advantage of the low player count. Players can get tired if the other team speeds up the game. All this can lead to more injuries.

Section 2. The Team
Art. 1. At the start of the game, each team shall consist of five players, one of whom shall be the captain.
Art. 2. Each team may continue to play with fewer than five players when all other team members are not eligible or able to play.
Art. 3. When there is only one player participating for a team, that team shall forfeit unless the referee believes that both teams have an opportunity to win.

 

[LETTERL]

It's amazing how many injuries UCONN has had to overcome the last two seasons. Yet, they just continue to win. It's scary to think how good they would really be if all of these injuries hadn't occurred.

 

[cometjo]

UConn never came out and said she suffered a concussion. It was always a "head injury." Why did they refuse to admit it was a concussion? Given how much controversy there is over how universities treat athletes with concussions, shouldn't the university at least admit that a student-athlete is undergoing evaluation for concussion protocol? This isn't an issue of the public's right to know. Across the country, university teams regularly state whether a student-athlete has suffered a concussion, whether one is being evaluated for a concussion, at what stage of the concussion protocol they are, and when they're cleared.

The question is why UConn doesn't adhere to this common practice at virtually every other university?

As I recall what they said was that according to doctors she had a head injury that didn't meet the criteria for concussion but was nonetheless significant. There are a lot of gray areas with these diagnoses—you can't identity a concussion with a scan you just have to test symptoms and the test results can be inconclusive. I think the approach the coaches ultimately went with was to let her play after she was medically cleared and take her out if she didn't seem like herself—I think they were reluctant to simply let her play through her problems getting back into the flow of things because there was the suspicion that her problem could be lingering injury not rustiness.

 

[EricSD]

First and foremost, I wish Nika the best - as a fan and as a human being. She is an amazing kid and an amazing player. Obviously this is a women's college basketball forum, UCONN specifically, and most every poster on her is a UCONN fan in one way or another.

Having said that, I get that legally, fans have no right to the medical information of any player. However... this is big time college basketball. It's not grade school or T-league. In pro sports, fans may not have a right to know either, but (as just one example) in football, there are now lawsuits over concussions issues - safety of helmets, helmet to helmet hits, etc. and the league has had to change rules to protect the players. So yeah, injuries are a big deal.

I'm not equating the injury of Nika to rules and game-play protocol of pro football, but rather (my point), in EVERY sport, any injured player starts a free for all among fans for asking, speculating, questioning, etc. Why should it be any different for WCBB? It's the same on the MCBB side. Fans want to know about the injury, how severe it is, how long they will be out, and then discuss how it impacts the rest of the team going forward.

I 100% agree that fans never have a RIGHT to know. However, fans will ALWAYS ask. The less specific the University is in providing answers, the more fans will speculate. I would never tell anyone how or what to post, but I don't get the constant stream of chiding fans for "we have no right to know" (unless the fan is saying "I have a right to know", which they don't seem to be doing), or the "why are we speculating"? well The answer to #2 is because we don't know, we are worried for both the player and the team, etc.

It's not like fans are speculating on a players sexuality, or the possibility of a transfer, or being overly harsh and critical (ie. a player sucks and a scholarship is wasted on her) - all things that will get deleted. Do I like every speculation post? Of course not. But the constant sniping bothers me more. It IS possible to ignore posts... Just my $.02...

 

[TCC Kid]

I think there is a minimum number of available players needed to hold a game. I tried to google this and couldn't find an answer. When you only have 6 or even 7 players available, the probability of additional injuries increases. Fouling can increase as the other team tries to take advantage of the low player count. Players can get tired if the other team speeds up the game. All this can lead to more injuries.

Uconn W. In the recent past has had LIMITED #s of players and Yes teams sped it up and rotated fresh players in and out. I don't recall whether Uconn lost, but you probably know they didn't lose.

5 seems like a decent number of players to have on the floor. 4 or 3 seems unacceptable. Refs and the Conferences EXPECT coaches to use reasonable caution-.

I think if Geno was down to just Azzi, Paige, Lou and Edwards he'd play most teams.

Is there ANY proof, recently, of coaches playing players lots of minutes and being expelled for that'' then I'd like to REPORT IOWA' (ST?) Coach because Clark plays nearly 40 minutes every game and is running the whole time. (I like that kid, I just don't like UC playing against her.)

 

[CL82]

Art. 3. When there is only one player participating for a team, that team shall forfeit unless the referee believes that both teams have an opportunity to win

So, if it was say, just Paige, the ref could look up and say “Eh, even five on one I still think it’s a coin flip.”

 

[Linart]

I also feel bad for Aaliyah. The poor woman is getting a reputation as "The Destroyer."

 

[dogged1]

So, if it was say, just Paige, the ref could look up and say “Eh, even five on one I still think it’s a coin flip.”

So, How does the inbound work?

 

[Urshurak]

Section 2. The Team
Art. 1. At the start of the game, each team shall consist of five players, one of whom shall be the captain.
Art. 2. Each team may continue to play with fewer than five players when all other team members are not eligible or able to play.
Art. 3. When there is only one player participating for a team, that team shall forfeit unless the referee believes that both teams have an opportunity to win.

Art. 3 only applies to Iowa.

 

[CL82]

So, How does the inbound work?

Has to bounce it off an opposing player. It’s been done before.

 

[Zarathustra]

Notr Dame's game with Lafayette was canceled/postponed due to health reasons. I wonder if this is an option for UConn?

Is there any information about what has to be the situation for a team to request a cancellation or reschedule?
One could argue that if you have 5 or 6 healthy bodies ... that the game " must go on". So ... to limit
the speculation, does anyone have any "evidence based" (NCAA guidelines?) about this type of situation? Do both
teams have to agree or is it a courtesy if the " injured" team requests it.? When does the option of
taking a forfeit come into play.? Thanks, Z