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NHT: Any Patriot fans becoming Tampa Bay fans.

Deepster said:
Any Patriots fan who now says they have a "2nd favorite team" to root for now are garbage.

You don't get to do that. You don't get to be pompous d-bags for 20 years, then decide you feel like now rooting for a 2nd team too. Live and die with your team. Everyone else is the enemy. Pats fans? We've been waiting for the reckoning and here it is. Belichick (again) pooched the draft and they're going to stink this year. Sorry you can't block off the weekend of the AFC Championship game right now.
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Course we do. I support the players, not just the laundry. Tom Brady and Gronk are our guys. Always will be. If a guy screws you, that's another story. But that's neither Brady, nor Gronk. I hope they are successful.

Not our fault your a Jets fan. :D

And Belichick pooched the draft again? By a wide variety of metrics and stats, he's a top 5 all time drafter--happy to show them to you. And given where he's had to select every year (back of the draft), that's pretty damn impressive.
 
intlzncster said:
Course we do. I support the players, not just the laundry. Tom Brady and Gronk are our guys. Always will be. If a guy screws you, that's another story. But that's neither Brady, nor Gronk. I hope they are successful.

Not our fault your a Jets fan. :D

And Belichick pooched the draft again? By a wide variety of metrics and stats, he's a top 5 all time drafter--happy to show them to you. And given where he's had to select every year (back of the draft), that's pretty damn impressive.
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Nope. Have you rooted for the Colts for as long as Vinatieri has been there? Of course not. It's fanboy nonsense to "root" for a guy on another team....if you're a real fan.

And I'd love to see your backup. To start, you can give me 1 or 2 WR's he's successfully drafted in the last 10 or 15 years.
 
HuskyHawk said:
It won't look like the Ravens. But Stidham is about as mobile as Mahomes. He's an accurate thrower whether stationary or off of a moving platform. I think we will run the ball often, use some RPO (which we could not with Brady) and simplify the route running. Brady was amazing, but his demands on WR were extreme, which is why I think so many failed to earn his trust.
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Good point. I'm pretty excited to see what Stidham can do.
 
Deepster said:
Nope. Have you rooted for the Colts for as long as Vinatieri has been there? Of course not. It's fanboy nonsense to "root" for a guy on another team....if you're a real fan.

And I'd love to see your backup. To start, you can give me 1 or 2 WR's he's successfully drafted in the last 10 or 15 years.
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@intlzncster No worries. I did your homework for you. Going back to 2010, the Pats have drafted 8 WR's.
  • Braxton Berrios
  • Devin Lucien
  • Malcolm Mitchell
  • Jeremy Gallon
  • Aaron Dobson
  • Josh Boyce
  • Jeremy Ebert
  • Taylor Price
Also, going back to 2010, here are the RB's he's drafted:

  • Damien Harris
  • Sony Michel
  • James White
  • Shane Vereen
  • Stevan Ridley

His best pick at the most important 2 offensive positions is James White?
 
Never! Lifelong Patriots fan for about 40 years.

I will root for Tampa though only when they aren't playing the Patriots. Only because of Brady and Gronk. Brady had a great run. Maybe the best in NFL history and I'm thankful for the past 20 years.

Not sure why we can't root for players, you only get a handful of generational players in your lifetime. Why not root for them?
 
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ZenConn said:
Not sure why we can't root for players, you only get a handful of generational players in your lifetime. Why not root for them?
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Then why caveat your post that you're a lifelong Patriots fan of 40 years?
 
Deepster said:
Then why caveat your post that you're a lifelong Patriots fan of 40 years?
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Why do you need to choose between rooting for a team and rooting for a player? If you hate on a player because they aren't on your team, especially a generational talent, you'll end up not appreciating what that player has done for the game.
 
ZenConn said:
Why do you need to choose between rooting for a team and rooting for a player? If you hate on a player because they aren't on your team, especially a generational talent, you'll end up not appreciating what that player has done for the game.
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That's all disjointed logic.

On one hand, you want everyone to know you've been a Pats Superfan for 40 years. Not one of those bandwagon jumpers!!! I was around when it was bad.

Then, on the other hand, when they're turning bad again.....now you're going to root for Brady and Gronk because they're your boys?

I've been a Jets fan for 47 years. I didn't root for Keyshawn Johnson when he went to Tampa Bay. Or Chad Pennington when he went to Miami. Or Darrelle Revis when he went to NE or Tampa Bay. I can recognize great performances by other players....but I don't have to root for them to do well.
 
Deepster said:
That's all disjointed logic.

On one hand, you want everyone to know you've been a Pats Superfan for 40 years. Not one of those bandwagon jumpers!!! I was around when it was bad.

Then, on the other hand, when they're turning bad again.....now you're going to root for Brady and Gronk because they're your boys?

I've been a Jets fan for 47 years. I didn't root for Keyshawn Johnson when he went to Tampa Bay. Or Chad Pennington when he went to Miami. Or Darrelle Revis when he went to NE or Tampa Bay. I can recognize great performances by other players....but I don't have to root for them to do well.
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I am a Patriots fan through thick and thin. Thats my team. But whats wrong with rooting for Brady and Gronk? I'll root for them in the same manner I'll root for other great players. I just dont see your point. Just because a player left the team you rooted for doesnt mean you cant root for them to do well.

Personally, I just can't see myself harboring that much bitterness torwards former players that brought you multiple championships. Maybe its from the years of being a Jets fan. :p
 
Deepster said:
That's all disjointed logic.

On one hand, you want everyone to know you've been a Pats Superfan for 40 years. Not one of those bandwagon jumpers!!! I was around when it was bad.

Then, on the other hand, when they're turning bad again.....now you're going to root for Brady and Gronk because they're your boys?

I've been a Jets fan for 47 years. I didn't root for Keyshawn Johnson when he went to Tampa Bay. Or Chad Pennington when he went to Miami. Or Darrelle Revis when he went to NE or Tampa Bay. I can recognize great performances by other players....but I don't have to root for them to do well.
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Because they didn't deliver any championships to please you. That USC Buttfumble QB has been the closest you got since Namath.

Got a long sleeve orange 1976 Bucco Bruce logo shirt. Don't care for the Bucs but like the shirt. If no one mentioned, the Bucs have the worst all time winning percentage of any active franchise. Also got an officially licensed 1965-70 Patriots AFL era logo t shirt. That's not too common.

Only size M and on ebay for anyone interested. Only 4 left, 20 shipped.
 
ZenConn said:
I am a Patriots fan through thick and thin. Thats my team. But whats wrong with rooting for Brady and Gronk? I'll root for them in the same manner I'll root for other great players. I just dont see your point. Just because a player left the team you rooted for doesnt mean you cant root for them to do well.

Personally, I just can't see myself harboring that much bitterness torwards former players that brought you multiple championships. Maybe its from the years of being a Jets fan. :p
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If you are ever at a bar watching Tampa Bay play and Brady throws a TD to Gronk and you cheer? You're not a Pats fan. Period.
 
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Deepster said:
If you are ever at a bar watching Tampa Bay play and Brady throws a TD to Gronk and you cheer? You're not a Pats fan. Period.
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So if I wasnt a Pats fan, Im allowed to cheer that TD pass or is that only allowed for Bucs fans only?

You are just a bitter Jets fan that allows this bitterness to permiate through to the enjoyment of the sport.
 
I'll still be rooting for the Pats - but I am excited to see what TB and Gronk can accomplish down there in Tampa. If they can pull off another SB win I'll be thrilled to death for them.
 
Scud49 said:
I'll still be rooting for the Pats - but I am excited to see what TB and Gronk can accomplish down there in Tampa. If they can pull off another SB win I'll be thrilled to death for them.
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I'm guessing you'll be wearing a pink Edelman jersey while you're thrilled to death for them.
 
Deepster said:
I've been over it. For 47 years.
Prepare to join me in the land of mediocrity, friend.
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We'll survive. We already went through similar with UConn. Sucks but what can you do? But I think the Pats will still be in the mix for as long as Belichick is there. After that, it will truly be over. The Krafts blow, they made one good hire.
 
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Waquoit said:
We'll survive. We already went through similar with UConn. Sucks but what can you do? But I think the Pats will still be in the mix for as long as Belichick is there. After that, it will truly be over. The Krafts blow, they made one good hire.
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Maybe. I am curious to see the impact of paying current players or attracting FA's now that the "Patriot Way" can't dictate those $0.75 on the dollar type contracts just to play with Brady in NE.
 
Waquoit said:
We'll survive. We already went through similar with UConn. Sucks but what can you do? But I think the Pats will still be in the mix for as long as Belichick is there. After that, it will truly be over. The Krafts blow, they made one good hire.
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Parcells wasnt a good hire? Carroll sucked with the Pats but we have seen him win titles after his time with NE.
 
Deepster said:
I've been over it. For 47 years.

Prepare to join me in the land of mediocrity, friend.
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Oh, I am fine with the 6 title run.

I am not that attached to sports. It's Robert Kraft's toy, not mine. It's like caring about watching someone else drive an exotic supercar. And some people do. Plenty of that on YouTube.

Freaking NHL is beginning to look like a powder coke version of a crack house.
 
I might actually watch some Bucs games this fall. Living in Florida, not too many opportunities to watch the Pats unless you have the NFL channel. I won't pay for that. The Bucs, the Fish and the Jags are on the local stations every week. So we'll see.
 
Scoe said:
Parcells wasnt a good hire? Carroll sucked with the Pats but we have seen him win titles after his time with NE.
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Parcells was a phenomenal hire. The Pats went from empty seats to a season ticket waiting list because of Parcells. Kraft didn't hire him. It was the previous owner.
 
Deepster said:
I am curious to see the impact of paying current players or attracting FA's now that the "Patriot Way" can't dictate those $0.75 on the dollar type contracts just to play with Brady in NE.
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I'm not sure that was all about Brady. The Pats put players in position succeed, they get paid in their next contract.
 
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Waquoit said:
I'm not sure that was all about Brady. The Pats put players in position succeed, they get paid in their next contract.
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Not for the forseeable future.

Take a guy like Larry Fitzgerald. Or Marshawn Lynch. Or AJ Green. Those were, in the past, guys who would want to be in NE, play for a chance at the SB and take lesser money to do so. Not anymore. They're going to KC. Or Baltimore.
 
If Kraft is the leader he thinks he is, the PATRIOTS bring in Colin Kaepernick. It would provide a nice balance to the white supremacist they drafted.
 
Waquoit said:
Parcells was a phenomenal hire. The Pats went from empty seats to a season ticket waiting list because of Parcells. Kraft didn't hire him. It was the previous owner.
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To take it one step further, Kraft ran Parcells out of town while he was leading them to the Super Bowl against Green Bay.
 
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