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So we obviously needed another scholarship QB. So landing one gives me some ray of hope that Diaco isn't 100% clueless (somewhere in between 90-99 I won't argue).

The proverbial, that being said, the best we could do was a back up JUCO QB?

I know we don't have much history and we've been very bad lately in a bad league, but come on.

It is easy to criticize and slander on this forum. When will someone step up and name a better choice over the one the coaching staff has brought in?

I know we don't have much history and we've been very bad lately in a bad league, but come on.[/QUOTE] No pizzing match here but what part of what you understand do you not understand?
 
No pizzing match here but what part of what you understand do you not understand?

I really don't want to have this discussion again, but my point is that we're still in the 6th/7th best college football league in America.

To me, that means we should recruit players that fit the description of the league or hopefully higher.

Being a JUCO back up or a FCS only offer doesn't preclude you from being good but I think UConn should be able to bring in higher quality players.

As far as who I wanted? I don't follow JUCO QB prospects. There is a guy at UConn getting paid $1.5M though that it would be in his interests to have a good idea.
 
He did start in Juco and then got beat out by the QB that went to unlv. He stuck it out and kept working and received multiple offers. And he was impressed by our facilities, coaches, and players.

He sounds like a good kid and if he has the same pocket/ receivers awareness he shows on film he has a good chance to start and help us be competitive.
 
As far as who I wanted? I don't follow JUCO QB prospects. There is a guy at UConn getting paid $1.5M though that it would be in his interests to have a good idea.

And if you have no knowledge of the JUCO prospects or this commit maybe you should show the faith you claim in our 1.5 miilion decision maker and realize he saw something in him that can help us instead of spouting off on something you know nothing about.
 
Whether you think he'll be great or remain skeptical - there is a severe lack of evidence to indicate how he will do. If you think he'll do well here, it's largely on faith alone. And it's ok to have faith. But it's also okay to have healthy skepticism until you see evidence to the contrary.
 
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And if you have no knowledge of the JUCO prospects or this commit maybe you should show the faith you claim in our 1.5 miilion decision maker and realize he saw something in him that can help us instead of spouting off on something you know nothing about.

Faith based on what Diaco showed us last season?

I didn't spout off about the kid at all. Just said I'm skeptical about a back up JUCO QB making an impact at the FBS level. Shocking notion.
 
Here's what I find interesting: Coach D. said that he wants to have his starter named by the end of spring practice. I Des's column today, Des said that Anderson will compete for the starting position once he arrives on campus this summer. That's a totally divergent message being sent to the troops already on board.
 
coachcap said:
Here's what I find interesting: Coach D. said that he wants to have his starter named by the end of spring practice. I Des's column today, Des said that Anderson will compete for the starting position once he arrives on campus this summer. That's a totally divergent message being sent to the troops already on board.
In fairness I think he said he'd name 1-2-3. I don't think he said "starter".
 
I don't understand the angst over a backup QB. The backup QB is always the best QB on the roster.

Really though, Houston has had a much better track record of QB play recently, Diaco brought in a transfer (Shirrefs), Freshman, and now JUCO guy to all battle for the job this year. I'm actually more worried about his ability to decide on one and stick with him, then how they play. Davis has 5 to play 4, Shirrefs had 3 left, and Boyle and Anderson each have 3 to play 2.
 
And if you have no knowledge of the JUCO prospects or this commit maybe you should show the faith you claim in our 1.5 miilion decision maker and realize he saw something in him that can help us instead of spouting off on something you know nothing about.

There's a clear distinction here that has caused a riff in this board. CTMike kind of alluded to it earlier.

There are those who afford Diaco faith based on nothing. "Blind faith" if you will.

Then there are those who don't casually afford someone faith without that person giving us a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

A perfect example for me was Edsall. He accomplished enough and had a track record where I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Never had that with P (and neither did a lot of the pollyanna posters here, btw) nor do I have that with Diaco based on his decisions last year. Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism but some of you guys get so offended for some reason when some of us question the staff.
 
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If Boyle regresses more than we're in the market for 2 more QBs in the '16 recruiting class... Just wouldn't make sense for him to stick around and ride the pine the remaining days he has here...
 
Here's what I find interesting: Coach D. said that he wants to have his starter named by the end of spring practice. I Des's column today, Des said that Anderson will compete for the starting position once he arrives on campus this summer. That's a totally divergent message being sent to the troops already on board.
I noticed this as well. I'm sure a starter may be named out of camp, but the competition shouldn't stop there. These kids need to continue to push each other until their eligibility at Uconn has expired. No reason to shut down competition once a starter is selected.
 
Agree w/ Jimmy. I believe most posts questioning Diaco's recruitment of a backup JUCO QB (and other matters) so late in the game is more of a question/concern (at least for me) around how early and deeply things are being thought thru by BD and staff. It just feels reactionary, like there was an "oh " realization that we needed another QB. From our OC choice to this late signing (and don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have added a QB to the roster and hope Anderson is a great get) my confidence in BD's decision making contniues to lessen. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to be wrong on this...I'd gladly eat crow b/c it would mean UConn was having FB success.
 
Faith based on what Diaco showed us last season?

I didn't spout off about the kid at all. Just said I'm skeptical about a back up JUCO QB making an impact at the FBS level. Shocking notion.

Yeah, just as shocking as all those nobodies that got us to the Fiesta Bowl! But please continue diminishing someone's accomplishments based on absolutely no information and think that it's not an insult to that person just so you can have something to complain about. Feel better?
 
The fact that he started his first year there and then was a backup last year says more about the guy ahead of him on the depth chart than him. If he was good enough for Houston to bring him aboard, then he's an AAC-level player, and there's nothing wrong with having those on our team while we're in this conference.
 
There's a clear distinction here that has caused a riff in this board. CTMike kind of alluded to it earlier.

There are those who afford Diaco faith based on nothing. "Blind faith" if you will.

Then there are those who don't casually afford someone faith without that person giving us a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

A perfect example for me was Edsall. He accomplished enough and had a track record where I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Never had that with P (and neither did a lot of the pollyanna posters here, btw) nor do I have that with Diaco based on his decisions last year. Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism but some of you guys get so offended for some reason when some of us question the staff.

I get that Jimmy but if people claim to want the HC to make a decision, when he does you can't just start bashing him when you have no idea if it's a good one or bad one until the kid steps on the field. Even more so if you admittedly know nothing about him or anyone else that was available, at that point is complaining for the sake of it.

Yes, he had many questionable decisions last year. frustrated the hell out of me. But I hope to that he and his staff who have more football knowledge than any of us had a reason for doing those things. I couldn't stand the constant rotating last year, cost us too many times, but look at the roster now, how many players have experience, have been given snaps to show exactly what they can and cannot do. I didn't care last year, just wanted the wins so we can get back to a bowl, but hopefully it set us up nicely for experience and depth for the future. Is it possible they are looking at a bigger picture than any of us care to see? You call that blind faith or pollyanna, fine, but why waste your time and energy just blindly bashing the program? Questioning fine, but some of the comments are far from healthy discussion and just as stupid in my opinion.
 
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Agree w/ Jimmy. I believe most posts questioning Diaco's recruitment of a backup JUCO QB (and other matters) so late in the game is more of a question/concern (at least for me) around how early and deeply things are being thought thru by BD and staff. It just feels reactionary, like there was an "oh " realization that we needed another QB. From our OC choice to this late signing (and don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have added a QB to the roster and hope Anderson is a great get) my confidence in BD's decision making contniues to lessen. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to be wrong on this...I'd gladly eat crow b/c it would mean UConn was having FB success.

The staff was trying to get another QB from the HS class and missed out on a couple. They made sure to save a scholarship(s) by signing walk-ons (including 1 QB), and then got a JUCO.

I'm pretty critical of the staff, but it's pretty obvious that they didn't prefer to bring in a JUCO. Backup or not, I'm surprised people don't put any stock into the Houston offer. They finished last season by beating Pitt in a bowl game after switching to their backup QB in early October.
 
Agree w/ Jimmy. I believe most posts questioning Diaco's recruitment of a backup JUCO QB (and other matters) so late in the game is more of a question/concern (at least for me) around how early and deeply things are being thought thru by BD and staff. It just feels reactionary, like there was an "oh " realization that we needed another QB. From our OC choice to this late signing (and don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have added a QB to the roster and hope Anderson is a great get) my confidence in BD's decision making contniues to lessen. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to be wrong on this...I'd gladly eat crow b/c it would mean UConn was having FB success.
  1. Quentin Harris (QB) (Duke Commit)
  2. Alex Hornibrook (QB) (Wisconsin Commit)
  3. Billy Bahl (QB) (Miami-Ohio Commit)
  4. Carter Stanley (QB) (Kansas Commit)
  5. Tyree Jackson (QB) (Buffalo Commit)
  6. Kavicka Johnson (QB) (UTEP Commit)
given that it was the seventh QB they went after I don't think it was an "oh " moment, just saying
 
The staff was trying to get another QB from the HS class and missed out on a couple. They made sure to save a scholarship(s) by signing walk-ons (including 1 QB), and then got a JUCO.

I'm pretty critical of the staff, but it's pretty obvious that they didn't prefer to bring in a JUCO. Backup or not, I'm surprised people don't put any stock into the Houston offer. They finished last season by beating Pitt in a bowl game after switching to their backup QB in early October.

FWIW, I made my original post before I was aware of the Houston offer. It does alleviate some of my concerns. Does it instill confidence? Not really, but then again nobody made an absolute judgement on whether this kid will be any good or not.

I don't think Diaco was late to the party realizing he needed another QB. They targeted but just missed out on a few. I'm glad they didn't take just anybody and waited til they found a guy they thought was worthy of a scholarship. I've got no issue with the way it played out in that regard.
 
I get that Jimmy but if people claim to want the HC to make a decision, when he does you can't just start bashing him when you have no idea if it's a good one or bad one until the kid steps on the field. Even more so if you admittedly know nothing about him or anyone else that was available, at that point is complaining for the sake of it.

Yes, he had many questionable decisions last year. frustrated the hell out of me. But I hope to that he and his staff who have more football knowledge than any of us had a reason for doing those things. I couldn't stand the constant rotating last year, cost us too many times, but look at the roster now, how many players have experience, have been given snaps to show exactly what they can and cannot do. I didn't care last year, just wanted the wins so we can get back to a bowl, but hopefully it set us up nicely for experience and depth for the future. Is it possible they are looking at a bigger picture than any of us care to see? You call that blind faith or pollyanna, fine, but why waste your time and energy just blindly bashing the program? Questioning fine, but some of the comments are far from healthy discussion and just as stupid in my opinion.

With all due respect Jerry, given the nature and the tone of this discussion, I think you're overreacting here.
 
I noticed this as well. I'm sure a starter may be named out of camp, but the competition shouldn't stop there. These kids need to continue to push each other until their eligibility at Uconn has expired. No reason to shut down competition once a starter is selected.

I agree with this. wasn't there a slogan years ago by a car rental company something like "We try harder".

Once a "bar level" has been set, and you don't want to be #2, 3, 4,...whatever, in the pecking order, doesn't an athlete try harder to elevate their play to a standard higher that the present bar level, and become a starter themselves?

If they don't, this doesn't bode well for depth. If that's the case they "can go in a corner and cry", and when their tears have dried....leave. (UConn has seen plenty of that in the past).

To build a program, BD does not need a bunch of quitters.
 
Does anyone want to point out where I bashed the program or the incoming player? I will question the coach until he gives me reason not to.

If anything, I have higher standards for the program than most of you.

I believe we could and should recruit better and until Diaco's measurable bunch of two sport stars begin to win, I'll remain skeptical.

No need to fly off the deep end.
 
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With all due respect Jerry, given the nature and the tone of this discussion, I think you're overreacting here.
Really? So the constant whining about him being a backup; that they looked at no other qbs; didn't have a clue; were reactionary; took a kid no one wanted, etc etc etc none of which is founded on anything remotely close to the truth, but I'm the one over reacting? Gold Jimmy! Pure Gold! (see what I did there, light hearted humor, it's not personal until it's personal)
 
I remember Tom Brady as a backup and a co starter at Michigan. How did that turn out? How about giving the kid a chance before making some of our comments.

Oh great! Compare him to a guy that lost 2 of the 6 super bowls he played in. ;)
 
ktuck911 said:
If Boyle regresses more than we're in the market for 2 more QBs in the '16 recruiting class... Just wouldn't make sense for him to stick around and ride the pine the remaining days he has here...

Well he did go to Xavier. So I assume he is a decent student and wants a degree from UCONN and not from East Tennessee state or whatever. Whatever I think of him as a player he should be able to keep his scholly to get a degree.
 
I remember Tom Brady as a backup and a co starter at Michigan. How did that turn out? How about giving the kid a chance before making some of our comments.
STOP!!

I remember people telling me they saw Boyle in person in HS and he was going to be great in college...Diaco says he is still working on his leadership...
 
FWIW my boss lived in FFLD and loves the preferred walk on kid. Thinks he can be a player. Never know till these guys get on the field against real competition.
 
Did we hurt someone's feelings?

3 Star is meaningless ... Unless you show me the credentials of the evaluator. I can get your home Appraised for $1m if I want.

I suspect few know the Quality of football in Walnut Creek, CA or California JUCO. Here's the general response: Damn Good on both. Far beyond New Canaan v Greenwich. They throw the ball a lot. They practice all year in football. JUCO are big time Lines. When I see Garret Anderson play, I see athletes & he's got a darn good arm. Lorenzen? There's about 70 solid California JUCOs playing football; Laney traditionally is one of the best. I like TL a lot; but he was always limited by a strange lefty motion. Leadership -Yup. Move the chains? Edsall got someone to do that.

We have not been successful at recruiting big time talent at QB nor developing talent. Boyle actually LOOKS like a real prospect. Many others did (including Dennis Brown). I can't remember losing lots of QB to other peer schools. Like Cincy or Pitt? Did we ever go far with any of their prospects in recruiting over the last 7 years. We didn't get Murphy; we didn't get Harris. Cochran was a fun upside prospect on makeup. Endres looked the part without the makeup. Just 10 years + of not much. Opinion? UConn has to reach beyond all other positions to get Quality at QB. Unknowns in PA or NJ? There's just not obvious. I did go to UCLA too. I can tell you that, to my view, there were always solid QB kids on UCLA, USC, Cal & Stanford. ALWAYS.

This kid - Anderson - had BYU, Syracuse in picking him late in his HS years; Colorado, Colorado State & Wyoming with home visits. At Laney - yeah he got passed by a UNLV recruit - he now gets Colorado State & Houston offers. Colorado coach quoted said he looked like Kellen Moore.

Summary? You'll have more success this way getting a QB than trying to Coach up a Connecticut kid. There's a certain pedigree that California kids get through their competitive leagues both in the Diablo Valley & JUCO.
 
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