New Haven Post Game Thread

[Palatine]

This is just a reminder that in 2003-04 opener, we beat Yale at Gampel by 10 points. The Yale coach dissed UConn after the game implying that Yale was the better team. The Huskies went on to win our second national championship.

So please, keep in mind that this game means absolutely nothing beyond the fact our record is 1-0.

 

[HW611]

Clingan played 13 MPG in the year of the first run. So is the argument that those 13 minutes led to 2023-2024 tourney dominance or that lightning somehow struck twice in 2 straight seasons?

Yall do know he was a projected first round pick and a top 10 player according to analytics in those 13 minutes right.

Yall forget he was a whole early season tournament MVP. We do this thing where we try to diminish our players to make Hurley seem bigger (which he doesn’t need).

 

[Inyatkin]

Yall do know he was a projected first round pick and a top 10 player according to analytics in those 13 minutes right.

Yall forget he was a whole preseason tournament MVP. We do this thing where we try to diminish our players to make Hurley seem bigger (which he doesn’t need).

yall know a game is 40 minutes, right? So even if he was prime Kareem in those 13 minutes, we'd have to have been at least ok in the rest of the time for us to win some games.

 

[Inyatkin]

not sure what you mean

He doesn't know what he means either, except that he hates Dan Hurley with the heat of a thousand suns for some reason, likely because he's not Jim Calhoun, but who really knows why

 

[HW611]

yall know a game is 40 minutes, right? So even if he was prime Kareem in those 13 minutes, we'd have to have been at least ok in the rest of the time for us to win some games.

Every time I show ignored content it’s you. Lol

 

[superjohn]

No one said it was easy. What he did was one of the most amazing accomplishments in modern CBB history. It is plausible that he just landed a core group of guys in back to back years that were lightning in a bottle, with Clingan being at the center of it. My strong lean is definitely on the fact that he is a very instinctive coach that builds great culture & system, but it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to show his stuff for a little confirmation. This year wouldn't be a bad one to start.

You're still doing it.

A core group of different guys. You know what that's called? Two different teams.

'23 destroyed the field in the tournament by a combined 120 points. After losing 65% of their scoring from the year before the '24 team destroyed the field in the tournament by 140 points. It was two different teams that destroyed everyone.

 

[Inyatkin]

Every time I show ignored content it’s you. Lol

lol. we're all laughing together right? lol

 

[BGesus4]

Is it official that Mullins’s injury is his knee or are we still saying ankle?

 

[husky429]

Don't worry about the lack of assists. We're hiding much of our offense until BYU

 

[RuffRuff]

He doesn't know what he means either, except that he hates Dan Hurley with the heat of a thousand suns for some reason, likely because he's not Jim Calhoun, but who really knows why

This is pretty much the reason why. And that Hurley doesn't develop players over the long haul to be successful NBA players like JC did, at any cost of negative impact on the program, back when players/coaches knew they had each other for 3-4 years.

If you're going to look at Clingan as being a key factor over the first season, his net+ is probably the one thing to look at. He'd come in an extend leads signficantly in those 13 minutes (sometimes against their backup), often putting knife in coffin. When you have an NBA lottery pick coming off the bench at the 5, even for 13 minutes, it's meaningful.

Any who - this is a good year to a get a feel for Dan Hurley. This team is going to need to be coached up, synced up, roles defined. He's got the pieces to be very good, coaching will determine if they're great.

 

[Kemba15]

Yall do know he was a projected first round pick and a top 10 player according to analytics in those 13 minutes right.

Yall forget he was a whole early season tournament MVP. We do this thing where we try to diminish our players to make Hurley seem bigger (which he doesn’t need).

Clingan is not the reason why we won in 23-24. Teams that win titles and great teams that don't win titles have awesome, surefire studs every year. Why is it that Hurley gets discredited for this, but other coaches do not?

 

[navery12]

Any who - this is a good year to a get a feel for Dan Hurley.

I'll make sure to let Dan Hurley know his 2 championships are meaningless and we'll all be judging him off this season

 

[RuffRuff]

You're still doing it.

A core group of different guys. You know what that's called? Two different teams.

'23 destroyed the field in the tournament by a combined 120 points. After losing 65% of their scoring from the year before the '24 team destroyed the field in the tournament by 140 points. It was two different teams that destroyed everyone.

I agree, but also disagree. Not totally different teams. Same PG, same 4, a lottery pick 5 with overlap. He then landed a perfect portal kid inadvertently and the best HS player in that class.

I'm the first one glaze those two seasons as the best two years in Uconn hoops history, so I'm not taking anything away from the amazement of what was accomplished. I'm just saying it's not entirely without the possibility of being lightning in a bottle. Last year he tried making wine out of water, and made a good run at FL. I see it as a full pass reset year. This year, I think we get to really see what his coaching chops are all about. Doesn't make or break his status as best coach in the sport, but I do think it gives us a little more realistic understanding that lofty perch.

Recruiting the right players is like 80% of success anyway, so you can't take that part away from him.

 

[HW611]

Clingan is not the reason why we won in 23-24. Teams that win titles and great teams that don't win titles have awesome, surefire studs every year. Why is it that Hurley gets discredited for this, but other coaches do not?

Nobody was the reason we won. He was one of the many reasons we won and had a significant role like every other important player.

He wasn’t just a middling 13 mpg guy. He might’ve been the best bench player in the country. Clingan’s impact was just so crazy for those two years whenever he was in the game.

I mean how many times do you hear about a guy winning a tournament MVP without even playing 20 minutes in any of the games?

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

A guy who won back to back national championships in historically dominant fashion in an era of virtual free agency needs to "show his stuff" this season to prove he can actually coach. 99% of the programs in college basketball would sacrifice a family member for these problems.

Setting aside the completely expected overreactions, we have a newcomer at the position that takes the longest to adjust to. It's not like we haven't seen this before with Newton. It would be far more surprising if Demery hit the ground running with no hiccups. And we have yet to play our most important and impactful player. And we're down another starter whose offensive ceiling is as high as any freshmen's in quite some time. And the crisis of confidence is being occasioned by a 25 point win in a C- performance where the outcome was never for a minute in doubt.

 

[HW611]

This is pretty much the reason why. And that Hurley doesn't develop players over the long haul to be successful NBA players like JC did, at any cost of negative impact on the program, back when players/coaches knew they had each other for 3-4 years.

If you're going to look at Clingan as being a key factor over the first season, his net+ is probably the one thing to look at. He'd come in an extend leads signficantly in those 13 minutes (sometimes against their backup), often putting knife in coffin. When you have an NBA lottery pick coming off the bench at the 5, even for 13 minutes, it's meaningful.

Any who - this is a good year to a get a feel for Dan Hurley. This team is going to need to be coached up, synced up, roles defined. He's got the pieces to be very good, coaching will determine if they're great.

He’s talking about temery not me bruh lol

 

[FightOnCT]

UConn will be fine but expectations need to be reset. This is nowhere near a championship caliber team like we saw a couple years ago. Which is fine, winning three in four is insanely hard to do.

Tempering expectations is fine but the whole take is way too premature. I remember watching the MVSU game in-person in 2023 and leaving disappointed

 

[FightOnCT]

He got lucky two years in a row. I'll reserve my praise for when he wins a third 'ship.

Don’t stop there, why not wait until the fourth or fifth?

 

[HW611]

Recruiting the right players is like 80% of success anyway, so you can't take that part away from him.

His recruiting has been amazing here. The strategies have been changing as of recently and I’m hoping it doesn’t affect things moving forward. But the combination of talent identification that we’ve shown combined with getting people we want has been phenomenal.

 

[Inyatkin]

This is pretty much the reason why. And that Hurley doesn't develop players over the long haul to be successful NBA players like JC did, at any cost of negative impact on the program, back when players/coaches knew they had each other for 3-4 years.

If you're going to look at Clingan as being a key factor over the first season, his net+ is probably the one thing to look at. He'd come in an extend leads signficantly in those 13 minutes (sometimes against their backup), often putting knife in coffin. When you have an NBA lottery pick coming off the bench at the 5, even for 13 minutes, it's meaningful.

Any who - this is a good year to a get a feel for Dan Hurley. This team is going to need to be coached up, synced up, roles defined. He's got the pieces to be very good, coaching will determine if they're great.

putting a knife in the coffin feels like overkill but what do i know

 

[JustbrewitMan]

I agree, but also disagree. Not totally different teams. Same PG, same 4, a lottery pick 5 with overlap. He then landed a perfect portal kid inadvertently and the best HS player in that class.

I'm the first one glaze those two seasons as the best two years in Uconn hoops history, so I'm not taking anything away from the amazement of what was accomplished. I'm just saying it's not entirely without the possibility of being lightning in a bottle. Last year he tried making wine out of water, and made a good run at FL. I see it as a full pass reset year. This year, I think we get to really see what his coaching chops are all about. Doesn't make or break his status as best coach in the sport, but I do think it gives us a little more realistic understanding that lofty perch.

Recruiting the right players is like 80% of success anyway, so you can't take that part away from him.

“landing a perfect portal kid inadvertently” sure is one heck of a take.

Did Hurley recruit some other schmo in the portal, Spencer showed up, and Hurley said “yea, I guess we’ll keep him because it’s too complicated to return him for a refund”

Sheesh you just try too hard sometimes to come up with your blazing hot takes

 

[temery]

He doesn't know what he means either, except that he hates Dan Hurley with the heat of a thousand suns for some reason, likely because he's not Jim Calhoun, but who really knows why

I didn't like Jim Calhoun either, but he was a great coach. Hurley's got Calhoun potential.

My point in this thread is pretty simple even for the simple minded - it was the first game of the season, down a couple starters, and they still won by 24 pts.

 

[BGesus4]

This is pretty much the reason why. And that Hurley doesn't develop players over the long haul to be successful NBA players like JC did, at any cost of negative impact on the program, back when players/coaches knew they had each other for 3-4 years.

If you're going to look at Clingan as being a key factor over the first season, his net+ is probably the one thing to look at. He'd come in an extend leads signficantly in those 13 minutes (sometimes against their backup), often putting knife in coffin. When you have an NBA lottery pick coming off the bench at the 5, even for 13 minutes, it's meaningful.

Any who - this is a good year to a get a feel for Dan Hurley. This team is going to need to be coached up, synced up, roles defined. He's got the pieces to be very good, coaching will determine if they're great.

This guy knows how to be a fan in the internet age

 

[mauconnfan]

Alex Karaban would start on every other team in Div 1. I think not having to be seen as the one to lead the team this season will help him have a great season. As for the game it looked like we did not know how to play them defensively and they took it to the hoop at will. Thankfully New Haven was off at the 3 point and foul lines. Dan Hurleys short postgame interview with Wayne Norman showed he was not pleased with what went on. Reibe with one rebound is the stat that stood out. At least the rest of the team picked up the slack there. On to UMass-Lowell.

I am glad we have Alex but that’s not true. I saw teams last night that he wouldn’t but that’s neither here or there. He still has trouble finishing going to the hole from then permiter as well as passing from the drive. He does almost everything else very well so again, glad he’s ours. He’s going to have to guard some real good athletes in a couple weeks as is everyone else, we will see.

Of course Dan wasn’t pleased, no one was very good. I thought Stewart may have been the best but there were concerning things. We didn’t need to have Solo being as good as last year we needed him better on each end. Silas and Malachi need time, but they both need to be better. Reibe needs to get stronger and rebound, time will tell.

I’m nervous as to how badly we will need Reed to stay out of foul trouble, he wasn’t good at it so we can only hope he understands. Lots of up fakes guys were falling for so please stay on your feet not many of you are shotblockers.

We have a couple more games to warm up although I’m not positive they will be. Dying to see improvement on Friday!

 

[mauconnfan]

No. Spot minutes when there is foul trouble.

I think he plays a little more than that. Solid D for an undersized guy but also a knack for the ball. Not a ton but more than spot, he’s part of the bench flow.