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Message: [QUOTE="BY06518, post: 3091842, member: 7961"] Lets go point by point here... Kemba also was on the college squad that played against the USA world championship in training camp so him practicing against Westbrook, Rose, Curry, and Billups probably had more to do with that than KO. Shabazz did get much better but how much of that was due to KO or was it the fact that he played better when he had a chip on his shoulder. Boatright I love Ryan he was all heart and was super talented but I would argue he wasn't much better from his Junior to Senior year. DeAndre Daniels, did get better but it wasn't by leaps and bounds some of that may just be because he got more opportunities. Brimah was the exact same player he was when he was a Freshman. Hamilton his skills were solid when he came here solid when he left. You failed to mention Purvis, Facey, Nolan, Larrier, Enoch, Durham, Jackson, either didn't get better or transfered out of the program. You mentioned graduation rate if only you won championships for good academics as long as the APR is good I think most would agree we would rather win above all else. You also failed to mention that we had more 20 point losses in his tenure ever and a team that quit most games. We all love KO but to defend him after the last two years is just crazy. [/QUOTE]