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1. Stanford (27) --
2. Louisville --
3/4. NC State (2) -1/2
3/4. UConn (1) +1/2
5. S. Carolina --
6. Baylor +1
7. Arizona -1
8. Texas A&M +1
9. UCLA +2
10. Kentucky +3
11. Oregon -3
12. Maryland +2
13. Arkansas -3
14. Miss. State -2

17. Texas +2
18. S. Florida +3
22. Northwestern -7

 
Oh, good! More incentive for Baylor.

nervous big bang theory GIF
 
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Lady Vols are up to 30. If they have any victories at all they will be #25 just in time for their game with us :)
Only if they beat Arkansas and maybe Georgia or Alabama. They lose to LSU, it doesn't mater who they beat.
Massey rates Arkansas 15, Georgia 17, and Alabama 24, while LSU is 97th.
 
If this were the end-of-the-season committee rankings, we might end up with a bracket like this:

1 Stanford / 6 Baylor / 10 Kentucky / 16 Ohio St
2 Louisvil / 7 Arizna / 12 Maryland / 14 Miss St
3 NC St .../ 8 Tx A&M / _9 UCLA ..../ 13 Arkansas
3 UConn .../ 5 So Car / 11 Oregon ../ 15 Michigan
 
If this were the end-of-the-season committee rankings, we might end up with a bracket like this:

1 Stanford / 6 Baylor / 10 Kentucky / 16 Ohio St
2 Louisvil / 7 Arizna / 12 Maryland / 14 Miss St
3 NC St .../ 8 Tx A&M / _9 UCLA ..../ 13 Arkansas
3 UConn .../ 5 So Car / 11 Oregon ../ 15 Michigan

Just replace Ohio State with Texas as OSU is postseason ineligible -- but yeah. I'm fine with putting South Carolina in UConn's bracket.

For comparison, if we used NET:

1. Stanford / 9. Louisville / 10. Maryland / 17. Texas A&M
2. UConn / 8. Kentucky / 11. UCLA / 16. Georgia
3. Baylor / 7. NC State / 12. Michigan / 15. Arkansas
4. Oregon / 5. South Carolina / 13. Rutgers / 15. Indiana

1StanfordPac-12-7-00-02-00-0
2UConnBig East-2-00-04-00-0
3BaylorBig 12-3-10-05-00-0
4OregonPac-12-4-00-04-10-0
5South CarolinaSEC-1-02-03-10-0
6Ohio St.Big Ten-0-00-04-00-0
7NC StateACC-3-00-07-00-0
8KentuckySEC-2-10-07-00-0
9LouisvilleACC-2-01-04-00-0
10MarylandBig Ten-2-02-12-00-0
11UCLAPac-12-3-10-03-10-0
12MichiganBig Ten-3-00-04-00-0
13RutgersBig Ten-1-20-04-10-0
14IndianaBig Ten-1-10-04-10-0
15ArkansasSEC-3-11-16-00-0
16GeorgiaSEC-4-00-05-10-0
17Texas A&MSEC-4-00-06-00-0
18South Fla.AAC-3-00-04-10-0
 
Just replace Ohio State with Texas as OSU is postseason ineligible -- but yeah. I'm fine with putting South Carolina in UConn's bracket.

For comparison, if we used NET:

1. Stanford / 9. Louisville / 10. Maryland / 17. Texas A&M
2. UConn / 8. Kentucky / 11. UCLA / 16. Georgia
3. Baylor / 7. NC State / 12. Michigan / 15. Arkansas
4. Oregon / 5. South Carolina / 13. Rutgers / 15. Indiana

OH I didn't realize that OhioSt was ineligible.

Note in your bracket you'd have to put a B10 team in UConn's bracket, so likely swap Georgia & Indiana.
 
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OH I didn't realize that OhioSt was ineligible.

Note in your bracket you'd have to put a B10 team in UConn's bracket, so likely swap Georgia & Indiana.

Yeah, I wasn't too worried about putting teams in the correct region at this point in the season, more of providing a rough sketch for where teams could end up using NET vs. the AP Poll. It'll be interesting to see how the committee uses the new tool, and once I dig into how NET is treating Mid-Majors.....I'll be curious.

Yeah, I'd say that Creme shouldn't include Ohio State at this juncture since they are ineligible.
 
Yeah, I wasn't too worried about putting teams in the correct region at this point in the season, more of providing a rough sketch for where teams could end up using NET vs. the AP Poll. It'll be interesting to see how the committee uses the new tool, and once I dig into how NET is treating Mid-Majors.....I'll be curious.

Yeah, I'd say that Creme shouldn't include Ohio State at this juncture since they are ineligible.
And if the national tournament winds up with all games played in the same venue (or city or state), to what extent will regional “balance” even be a factor?
 
And if the national tournament winds up with all games played in the same venue (or city or state), to what extent will regional “balance” even be a factor?

With one location, the committee will no longer have to worry about putting teams in regions "close to home." But the other two main criteria remain -- have balanced brackets and keeping conference foes away from each other (eg, no conference rematches until the sweet 16, conference teams with top-4 seeds in separate brackets, etc). If not for the latter, the committee would be able to use the S-curve as is.
 
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Just replace Ohio State with Texas as OSU is postseason ineligible -- but yeah. I'm fine with putting South Carolina in UConn's bracket.

For comparison, if we used NET:

1. Stanford / 9. Louisville / 10. Maryland / 17. Texas A&M
2. UConn / 8. Kentucky / 11. UCLA / 16. Georgia
3. Baylor / 7. NC State / 12. Michigan / 15. Arkansas
4. Oregon / 5. South Carolina / 13. Rutgers / 15. Indiana

1StanfordPac-12-7-00-02-00-0
2UConnBig East-2-00-04-00-0
3BaylorBig 12-3-10-05-00-0
4OregonPac-12-4-00-04-10-0
5South CarolinaSEC-1-02-03-10-0
6Ohio St.Big Ten-0-00-04-00-0
7NC StateACC-3-00-07-00-0
8KentuckySEC-2-10-07-00-0
9LouisvilleACC-2-01-04-00-0
10MarylandBig Ten-2-02-12-00-0
11UCLAPac-12-3-10-03-10-0
12MichiganBig Ten-3-00-04-00-0
13RutgersBig Ten-1-20-04-10-0
14IndianaBig Ten-1-10-04-10-0
15ArkansasSEC-3-11-16-00-0
16GeorgiaSEC-4-00-05-10-0
17Texas A&MSEC-4-00-06-00-0
18South Fla.AAC-3-00-04-10-0
Where is Arizona? Surely a loss to the #1 team shouldn’t drop them out of the top 18?
 
Where is Arizona? Surely a loss to the #1 team shouldn’t drop them out of the top 18?
Arizona isn’t in the top 18 of the NET. While they are still in the Top 15 of the AP, they’re actually ranked at 21 in the NET.
 
If this were the end-of-the-season committee rankings, we might end up with a bracket like this:

1 Stanford / 6 Baylor / 10 Kentucky / 16 Ohio St
2 Louisvil / 7 Arizna / 12 Maryland / 14 Miss St
3 NC St .../ 8 Tx A&M / _9 UCLA ..../ 13 Arkansas
3 UConn .../ 5 So Car / 11 Oregon ../ 15 Michigan
Well, I thought with the whole Tournament being in San Antonio, straight seeding (1-64) by the committee (NET?) would occur:
1-8-9-16 would be Stanford/TAM/UCLA/tOSU (Elite 8 game is Stan-UCLA)
2-7-10-15 is Lou/Ariz/Ky/Mich
3-6-11-14 is UConn/Baylor/Oregon/MSU
4-5-12-13 NC St/SC/Maryland/Arkansas
 
Is Iowa ever going to get ranked this year? It's not like several of the Top 25 teams haven't really beaten anybody so far.

Washington St. near the end of the teams also receiving votes. When is the last time that happened? I honestly have no clue.
 
Only if they beat Arkansas and maybe Georgia or Alabama. They lose to LSU, it doesn't mater who they beat.
Massey rates Arkansas 15, Georgia 17, and Alabama 24, while LSU is 97th.
Yeah. I should have been clearer that I was actually referencing ESPN's hype machine. ESPN would like nothing better than promoting a "TOP 25 CLASH BY TWO ARCH-RIVALS!" or something like that. There's no way LV's get into the top 25 in two weeks.
 
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If this were the end-of-the-season committee rankings, we might end up with a bracket like this:

1 Stanford / 6 Baylor / 10 Kentucky / 16 Ohio St
2 Louisvil / 7 Arizna / 12 Maryland / 14 Miss St
3 NC St .../ 8 Tx A&M / _9 UCLA ..../ 13 Arkansas
3 UConn .../ 5 So Car / 11 Oregon ../ 15 Michigan
I have a hard time seeing that both Louisville and NC State can stay as top 4 teams and both be #1 seeds. I think South Carolina will probably move up.
 
From what I’ve seen, there has only been one top team that hasn’t looked vulnerable so far this season, and that is Stanford. You might argue that UConn hasn’t looked vulnerable, except for the fact that the Huskies have yet to face a top team. Hopefully, after the Baylor game UConn will join Stanford as a team playing at a consistently superior level.
 
Yes, the Baylor game is big right now but looking forward, so many things will probably change. UConn, if their development continues will rise to final 4 material & hopefully a NC. Let's hope!
 
Well, I thought with the whole Tournament being in San Antonio, straight seeding (1-64) by the committee (NET?) would occur:
1-8-9-16 would be Stanford/TAM/UCLA/tOSU (Elite 8 game is Stan-UCLA)
2-7-10-15 is Lou/Ariz/Ky/Mich
3-6-11-14 is UConn/Baylor/Oregon/MSU
4-5-12-13 NC St/SC/Maryland/Arkansas
No, because of the various rules about keeping conference opponents apart (see my previous post).

Also, the NET ratings are (like the RPI before it), are just another piece of information used by the committee in seeding. It is not the be-all end-all.
 
Just replace Ohio State with Texas as OSU is postseason ineligible -- but yeah. I'm fine with putting South Carolina in UConn's bracket.

For comparison, if we used NET:

1. Stanford / 9. Louisville / 10. Maryland / 17. Texas A&M
2. UConn / 8. Kentucky / 11. UCLA / 16. Georgia
3. Baylor / 7. NC State / 12. Michigan / 15. Arkansas
4. Oregon / 5. South Carolina / 13. Rutgers / 15. Indiana

1StanfordPac-12-7-00-02-00-0
2UConnBig East-2-00-04-00-0
3BaylorBig 12-3-10-05-00-0
4OregonPac-12-4-00-04-10-0
5South CarolinaSEC-1-02-03-10-0
6Ohio St.Big Ten-0-00-04-00-0
7NC StateACC-3-00-07-00-0
8KentuckySEC-2-10-07-00-0
9LouisvilleACC-2-01-04-00-0
10MarylandBig Ten-2-02-12-00-0
11UCLAPac-12-3-10-03-10-0
12MichiganBig Ten-3-00-04-00-0
13RutgersBig Ten-1-20-04-10-0
14IndianaBig Ten-1-10-04-10-0
15ArkansasSEC-3-11-16-00-0
16GeorgiaSEC-4-00-05-10-0
17Texas A&MSEC-4-00-06-00-0
18South Fla.AAC-3-00-04-10-0
I much prefer UCONN @ #2. Now if Oregon can knock off Stanford, it will get interesting again...
 

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