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I've always thought a coach was more than a person who merely instructs players in the fundamentals of a sport and directs team strategy. I believe a coach is also a mentor, encourager, supporter, inspirer and someone who can build character and confidence in those around him/her. I also believe a coach is the foundation from which good sportsmanship is learned and embraced. Good sportsmanship is learned from coaches who love and respect the sport they coach regardless of whether the team or player they coach wins or loses.
If a technical foul could be given during an awards presentation for unsportsmanlike conduct then Ms. McGraw is definitely deserving of such, IMO. Any college coach who cannot acknowledge and applaud a college athlete for winning POY, regardless of what school he or she plays for, is guilty of unsportsmanlike conduct. Shame on you, Ms. McGraw, for dropping the baton during an impressionable teaching moment for young athletes everywhere .
 
Coach McGraw's actions (and non-actions) right now that are directed at UConn are very sad. And seem to reveal some shortcomings.
 
I gotta say I really don't like this pre-game smack stuff.

Geno's reacting, in a muted way for him, but Ms. McGraw is driving it.

And she's doing so in an awkward, heavy-handed way, especially with
the disgraceful surliness at Breanna's POY ceremony.

I know ESPN is probably encouraging it, and some of the other media keep it going with questions because they think it adds spice to that boring old basketball stuff -- like the first NC match-up of undefeateds in NCAA basketball history.

But if I want this kind of "bad blood" crap I'll become a fan of pro wrestling.

Act like a professional, McGraw. Represent. Decline the invitations to display petty public petulance.

That's all.
 
Let us hold our vinegar and let the kids take care of business. It is their game, every blessing to them to stay calm in their heart for stillness in the moment, clear in their minds to keep their wits while others are losing their heads, and strong like the Valkyrie as they ride down on their foes.
 
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JS said:
I gotta say I really don't like this pre-game smack stuff.

Geno's reacting, in a muted way for him, but Ms. McGraw is driving it.

And she's doing so in an awkward, heavy-handed way, especially with the disgraceful surliness at Breanna's POY ceremony.

I know ESPN is probably encouraging it, and some of the other media keep it going with questions because they think it adds spice to that boring old basketball stuff -- like the first NC match-up of undefeateds in NCAA basketball history.

But if I want this kind of "bad blood" crap I'll become a fan of pro wrestling.

Act like a professional, McGraw. Represent. Decline the invitations to display petty public petulance.

That's all.
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I just caught another snippet from her presser which I think is the most revealing of all. First I want to note that her demeanor as she went through her little self-pity, hate UConn diatribe was of a person enjoying it. But the comment that struck me was to the effect that going to the ACC this year has been something of a distraction from having to follow UConn around. I think this helps round out the Muffet's profile as a cancerously envious person who is out of touch enough to believe that she deserves more respect than Geno and her team deserves celebrity/media attention more that the Huskies. After all, this is a person so twisted up with rancor she can blame an athlete for winning POY when her player was never seriously in the conversation. She's one sick puppy; she is also using it to try to incent ( incense?) her team. She has out CVived CViv.

Is there a handshake at the end of the championship game?
 
The difference between class, and ignorance. Last year after the UConn win in the semi- final game, Geno taking the extra time to talk to Skylar, and tell her what a great player she was, and how much she did for the college game. Fast forward to this year, Stewie receives player of the year award, Muffet doesn't even have the courtesy to clap for an outstanding young lady.
 
I think the fans here have nailed it pretty well. Muffet wants this to be about her...but it isn't, this is about the players, the game of basketball and athletes leaving it all on the floor as they engage in the battle between the lines. "Little Miss Muffet" has lost sight of that. It was Mallory, Ivey, Ruth Riley, Diggins, Novesel, Peters, McBride, Jewell and soon to come Turner who deserve the credit for Notre Dame's Achievements thus far. When comparing the two programs in totality with regards to women's basketball Muffet is seriously over-reaching. Muffet should remember when Geno had the chance to brag on Stewie for her activity and participation during Olympic / National team practice he CHOSE to spend that time praising McBride expressing what a surprise she was to all who attended.

Here is Geno's quote: "Going into the camp, Kayla McBride was perhaps just another college player invited," Auriemma said. "I don't think a lot of people paid as much attention to her last year because most of it was naturally all on Skylar Diggins.

"But once she got to camp and people began to see what she can do, well, it didn't surprise me, but I think it surprised a lot of others. I would venture to say other than Stewie and Elena Delle Donne, she might have been the most impressive player there."

McBride, certain be a first-round WNBA draft pick next week, was thrilled to know Auriemma thought so highly of her.

"It's certainly a good feeling to have," McBride said. "He pushes his players. I like that. It was wonderful to have the opportunity to be coached by him. And it's humbling to know what he thinks of me."

Muffet...really needs to check her "tude" for the benefit of the game. She should take a few pointers from her players. Does anybody here think that McBride orchestrated the silent routine when Stewie's POY award was announced...NOPE! That was all Muffet and for that she should be ashamed of herself...putting herself, her ambition, her personal desires ahead of the game and its players when she should be setting an example as a leader in the sport.

We have what could shape up to be a great championship game coming up. The first time in NCAA history in either the men or the women's side of things...two undefeated teams who are on a quest for perfection. Both teams have dominated the competition all year long. This is about them, their accomplishment, their place in history. Both Geno and Muffet have a role to play as head coaches but it is the players who ultimately play the game...it is their time. In short, Mufffet needs to just SDSU. Notre Dame is playing this game for themselves their families, their coaches, Natalie Achonowa and for a second national championship. UConn is playing the game for themselves, their families, their coaches, for Morgan Tuck and for a ninth national championship. Let's let them play! Go Huskies!!!
 
HoopsFan21 said:
Yeah same here. Would love for Stewie and Kaleena to come out firing and knocking down 3s in the first minute of the game. Like bad shooting, hot shooting is also contagious and if UConn gets rolling, it will be bombs away like in last year's final when they set the record for made 3s in a final game. I think tomorrow we may see some killer instinct from this team finally where if they get going, they aren't going to stop until the final buzzer or Geno makes some mercy subs for the last 4 minute segment.
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I actually think it's been a while since UConn's "A" game showed up. Lately their shooting has been a struggle but I saw signs that maybe that drought is over. I can't think of a better night to really like up the scoreboard. As has been mentioned, I would like nothing better than seeing the Irish humiliated and shutting up all Muffet's nonsense. However, I will easily settle for a victory that would give them their 9th title and put him on top of women's basketball officially (though he's been there for a while with fans that know better). Maybe a close game eeked out in the last seconds would be an even bigger dagger in the hearts of their team and most importantly, Muffett. Remember how many times UConn lost key players at the end of the season, thrwarting likely national titles. Shea and Sveta one year while losing Nykesha another and then there was Mel Thomas whose steadiness and great outside shooting was missed in the NCAA tournament. I have no sympathy for them and an agonizing loss is what I'd like them to remember this season for.
 
cferraro04 said:
I think the fans here have nailed it pretty well. Muffet wants this to be about her...but it isn't, this is about the players, the game of basketball and athletes leaving it all on the floor as they engage in the battle between the lines. "Little Miss Muffet" has lost sight of that. It was Mallory, Ivey, Ruth Riley, Diggins, Novesel, Peters, McBride, Jewell and soon to come Turner who deserve the credit for Notre Dame's Achievements thus far. When comparing the two programs in totality with regards to women's basketball Muffet is seriously over-reaching. Muffet should remember when Geno had the chance to brag on Stewie for her activity and participation during Olympic / National team practice he CHOSE to spend that time praising McBride expressing what a surprise she was to all who attended.

Here is Geno's quote: "Going into the camp, Kayla McBride was perhaps just another college player invited," Auriemma said. "I don't think a lot of people paid as much attention to her last year because most of it was naturally all on Skylar Diggins.

"But once she got to camp and people began to see what she can do, well, it didn't surprise me, but I think it surprised a lot of others. I would venture to say other than Stewie and Elena Delle Donne, she might have been the most impressive player there."

McBride, certain be a first-round WNBA draft pick next week, was thrilled to know Auriemma thought so highly of her.

"It's certainly a good feeling to have," McBride said. "He pushes his players. I like that. It was wonderful to have the opportunity to be coached by him. And it's humbling to know what he thinks of me."

Muffet...really needs to check her "tude" for the benefit of the game. She should take a few pointers from her players. Does anybody here think that McBride orchestrated the silent routine when Stewie's POY award was announced...NOPE! That was all Muffet and for that she should be ashamed of herself...putting herself, her ambition, her personal desires ahead of the game and its players when she should be setting an example as a leader in the sport.

We have what could shape up to be a great championship game coming up. The first time in NCAA history in either the men or the women's side of things...two undefeated teams who are on a quest for perfection. Both teams have dominated the competition all year long. This is about them, their accomplishment, their place in history. Both Geno and Muffet have a role to play as head coaches but it is the players who ultimately play the game...it is their time. In short, Mufffet needs to just SDSU. Notre Dame is playing this game for themselves their families, their coaches, Natalie Achonowa and for a second national championship. UConn is playing the game for themselves, their families, their coaches, for Morgan Tuck and for a ninth national championship. Let's let them play! Go Huskies!!!
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It's quite possible that there is some hostility amongst the Irish team towards UConn now but it's even more likely that it was generated by their coach, Muffett McGraw and that's sad. You can use a lot of tactics to prepare your team for a powerful opponent but I'm inclined to think her choice as coach was to use the "no respect" and "arrogant" and "pompous" cards to define how UConn perceives the Irish, which had never been the case. Since this silliness started, she's drawn lines in the sand and made what should be mutual respect into total animosity. Shame on her!!!!!!
 
Buzzyboy said:
It's quite possible that there is some hostility amongst the Irish team towards UConn now but it's even more likely that it was generated by their coach, Muffett McGraw and that's sad. You can use a lot of tactics to prepare your team for a powerful opponent but I'm inclined to think her choice as coach was to use the "no respect" and "arrogant" and "pompous" cards to define how UConn perceives the Irish, which had never been the case. Since this silliness started, she's drawn lines in the sand and made what should be mutual respect into total animosity. Shame on her!!!!!!
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It's kind of funny what some teams use to pump themselves up. Like in the Cardinal pre-game huddle the kids swearing about how UConn is not perfect, and now Muffet manufacturing this bitter rivalry. Good to know Huskies don't need such nonsense to get up for a big game.
 
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Buzzyboy said:
The big distinction is that UCLA was great primarily because they had a booster who bought great player after great player so that basically Wooden had an all-star team throughout most of the golden years of his tenure. Geno actually had to make his legacy, brick by brick by brick. Initially he had a horrible facility to try and entice players. Eventually Gampel Pavilion was built but still, UConn had only one winning season prior to his arrival and was considered, at best, a regional team. It took the success of the 1991 team to really change the image of UConn's women's basketball. Geno continues to gush about the brilliance of Wooden but I'm inclined to think that Wooden played with a stacked deck. I don't think he would have had nearly the success that he had were it not for that booster "buying" him the best players in the land. I don't think he was a part of it but how naïve would he have had to be to not be aware that this booster had bought cars and given money and leased apartments to his kids??? There are so many places where other programs had better facilities and better environments to recruit in than did Geno. What it took was a massive amount of work and diligence on his and Chris's part to make this program into what it is today. Tough if some people resent it but it isn't like it came easily. Why not enjoy the ride? Who cares about their envy and jealousy. Sports fans, who are ignorant and who hate or criticize without knowing what a long and difficult trip it was can say what they want. I think Geno made it clear that all that cr*p means nothing to him. He's proud of his success and is doing everything he can to continue it into the future. No two people deserve that success more than he and Chris Daley.
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John Wooden up-date:First,Coach Geno ,respect and admire Coach Wooden.(He carries a copy of "they call me coach"-by Coach Wooden ,at all times).Coach Wooden had been coaching at UCLA approximately 16 years before he won his First Championship.His 1964 team played Michigan with the great Cazzie Russell.UCLA did not have superior talent.He also won another Championship with Steve Patterson at center.Lew Alcindor and Lucius Allen attended UCLA on Academic Scholarships ,therefore they were not governed by NCAA rules.The man was an Excellent Coach.North Carolina talent probably surpasses UCLA ,however Coach Dean Smith only won TWO Championships in 42 years. Auerbach,built his program from from bottom-up.Once he drafted Russell he won a ton of Championships.However,Coach Jackson inherited Super Stars(Jordan,Pippen,Rodman-Shaq,Kobe,etc.and is considered the Greatest of all-time(not impressed).Coach Wooden stands alone on the men side and Coach Geno stands alone on the Women side.
 
cferraro04 said:
Muffet is taking a page from Geno's play book...bringing attention onto herself to take pressure off her players. Geno did it all the time. Muffet problem is that Geno is the master of the Philadelphia Shuffle...Muffet is awkward at it.
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I wish that's all that it was. There have been a lot of good theories posted here, many with credibility. My personal view is that this has been festering for some time and now the comments are streaming out as if the dam broke wide open. As mentioned before, McGraw indicated how it was nice to not be in the same conference as UConn anymore. Was this because while they were, she felt like she had to be polite to Geno and wasn't able to really speak her mind? Had she been trying to put on a good front and not let her true feelings come out? Think back to all the things that have happened over the last few years...1) Skylar's classless remark after ND beat us here.... 2) the unnamed player's negative shout into our locker room about not wanting to be us after an ND victory over us here .... 3) the flops that the ND players learned from "someone" and then used against us in games... 4) this season's pre-tourney remark insinuating that McGraw wanted to play us this season, but that Geno didn't want to....5) to the totally classless lack of applause for a 19 (?) year old player who just won national POY. And this is while with her players being right there?? Wow! Were the players remarks made in part because they knew how their coach really felt toward UConn and Geno and being kids, they just blurted the true feelings out? As I recall, there was no public apology offered for the ND players doing so either. So to me, these are all indicative of an inferiority complex on the part of McGraw. This is years of frustration all boiling over.

Finally, as was mentioned above, when you add in that ND has had it's chances to win national titles over the years, but has failed, it seems that McGraw has clearly decided to focus ALL of the attention on her and Geno instead. It's apparent that at this point, both she, and her players, are feeling a lot of pressure.... pressure which will be even greater tonight without Achonwa in the lineup. So if you're a coach who has "dominated" another program, as the media has been saying ND has us recently with it's 7 wins in the last 9 games, what else is a desperate coach to do?? It's a huge gamble on her part though, as she is risking her reputation, in an attempt to gain a crown. She's gone "Summit" on Geno...and we all know how that has turned out for Tennessee!
 
Geno is going to make sure that Little Miss Muffett gets what she has coming. I expect UConn to win by at least 20.
 
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I hope we put a good old ass whipping on ND . So tired of the muppet and her no respect whine for ND.
Would love to see Stewie throw one down also to rub it in....
 
Mulligan said:
I hope we put a good old ass whipping on ND . So tired of the muppet and her no respect whine for ND.
Would love to see Stewie throw one down also to rub it in....
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Nah, that is not Stewie's style. She just takes care of business. Now if we have a big lead, Geno may not call off the dogs, even if Muffett doesn't have any time outs left to get Kayla out of the game for her final ovation. I have a feeling this one will go down to the wire so that is not likely to come into play.
 
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"She wants it, she needs it. Must have the precious. She wants to steal it from us; Sneaky little Irishes. Wicked, tricksy, false!
"No, not Muffet!"
"Yes, Muffet, false! They will cheat you, hurt you, lie!"
"Muffet is our friend!"
" You don't have any friends. Nobody likes you!"
"I'm not listening, I'm not listening!"
"She's a liar, and a thief!"
"No!"
 
CTyankee said:
Don't crow... :)

(We know the difference between football from the ACC and the SEC.)
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It was just a dig at the ACC, and if they were concerned about football, they wouldn't have been so anxious to add Syracuse and Pitt.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
It was just a dig at the ACC, and if they were concerned about football, they wouldn't have been so anxious to add Syracuse and Pitt.
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hahaha We'll take anything we can get!!! Are you offerin' anything? (Hope)
 
CTyankee said:
hahaha We'll take anything we can get!!! Are you offerin' anything? (Hope)
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Heck, if you guys join the SEC, I get an excuse for a trip to New England every other year! Wouldn't that get people talking?

BTW, you guys put on a clinic tonight. Congrats.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
Heck, if you guys join the SEC, I get an excuse for a trip to New England every other year! Wouldn't that get people talking?

BTW, you guys put on a clinic tonight. Congrats.
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Thanks
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
I thought it was Quick Draw.

QUICK+DRAW+McGRAW+%232+1960.jpg
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Ha ha ha...I got it...Muffet "Big Flaw" McGraw!
 
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