If we're changing this from guys who played in college to guys who were drafted way too low for how good they turned out to be in the NBA the list will largely be dominated by foreign players. Jokic, Ginobili, Tony Parker, Giannis, Marc Gasol, Gobert, Dirk, Drazen.Isaiah Thomas. last pick of the draft iirc. Averaged like 28ppg one season.
Tony Parker. 4 time nba champion and finals MVP late 2nd rounder.
Those are two guys that come to mind immediately.
Wow...Had to look into that and...Watching Playoffs last night I found myself contemplating Jimmy Butler. He's one of the biggest NBA stars of this century but based on his time at Marquette I wouldn't have predicted this level of greatness. Once homeless, ignored by D1 schools, not higher than a 2 star recruit. He had some big shots against us, avgd low-mid teens ppg as an upper classman and was 2nd or 3rd team big east but it never seemed as if he reached a level of dominance (over 4 years ) that would've led to this.
...Dang...But...His father abandoned the family when Butler was an infant. By the time he was 13 years old and living in the Houston suburb of Tomball, his mother kicked him out of the house.
If he weren't earning millions would he still be so close?Butler maintains a close relationship with his parents
Jokic for the max please
I'm pretty confident that Tony Parker did not have a CBB career.Isaiah Thomas. last pick of the draft iirc. Averaged like 28ppg one season.
Tony Parker. 4 time nba champion and finals MVP late 2nd rounder.
Those are two guys that come to mind immediately.
Dray and Kawhi are great answers who fit in the rare-these-days category of "great college career, but not expected to amount to much in the NBA, but became stars."Draymond Green, even if I can't stand him. Second round pick.
Kawhi Leonard went 15th, and I think he exceeded expectations.
In that case, I honestly never thought Trae Young was gonna translate his college stardom to pro level success and neither did anybody else it seems because he is still considered overrated. It looked as though he was able to have his way in college but predicted that he would only be a quality starter at best in the NBA. He has avgd 26ppg 9 assists and 3.7 rebounds in his 5 seasons. Granted his D isn't the best but those numbers are hard to argue. And the second you second guess him he'll torch you for 40Dray and Kawhi are great answers who fit in the rare-these-days category of "great college career, but not expected to amount to much in the NBA, but became stars."
There are a ton of guys whose NBA careers outshone their college careers, but where this was largely expected (e.g. Drummond). This is a twist on that theme.
I agree that I didn’t think that he d be this good -but he was a beast on Marquette- especially when they played UConn. I remember him going off a few times (I think)Watching Playoffs last night I found myself contemplating Jimmy Butler. He's one of the biggest NBA stars of this century but based on his time at Marquette I wouldn't have predicted this level of greatness. Once homeless, ignored by D1 schools, not higher than a 2 star recruit. He had some big shots against us, avgd low-mid teens ppg as an upper classman and was 2nd or 3rd team big east but it never seemed as if he reached a level of dominance (over 4 years ) that would've led to this.
With the draft coming up, what players, over history, exceeded your expectations as a pro compared to their college careers?
Agree that consensus was & still is Trae = overrated: led NCAA in scoring & assists as frosh but considered too selfish. This is still being debated: Is he a winning player? I went to Hawks opener this year and the fans delighted much more in Trey going one-on-one and taking deep 3's vs ambivalence when he was making the right basketball play.In that case, I honestly never thought Trae Young was gonna translate his college stardom to pro level success and neither did anybody else it seems because he is still considered overrated. It looked as though he was able to have his way in college but predicted that he would only be a quality starter at best in the NBA. He has avgd 26ppg 9 assists and 3.7 rebounds in his 5 seasons. Granted his D isn't the best but those numbers are hard to argue. And the second you second guess him he'll torch you for 40
I agree that I didn’t think that he d be this good -but he was a beast on Marquette- especially when they played UConn. I remember him going off a few times (I think)
I know. Was just thinking of two guys that i remembered getting drafted and turned out to be pretty good and those two came to mind.I'm pretty confident that Tony Parker did not have a CBB career.
100% and good call on Austin Reaves. If he pans out that's one of the best examples ever.I think this is a fun conversation if you make the subtle distinction between the OP's question and just "who succeeded their draft status."
Jimmy Butler seems to be the leader as far as pretty ordinary player in college to star in the NBA. There's not many similar cases. It's not a highly touted guy who had an average season and dropped, or international or anything classic, it's just a wild situation.
If Austin Reaves puts up 10 straight seasons like his last few games, he might be in the convo.
Giannis Antetokounmpo
? He was an awesome collegiate player and a solid pro.JJ Redick had a helluva NBA career
Awesome factoid.Ben Wallace is the only undrafted player in the Hall of Fame...
Khris Middleton averaged 13.2 ppg for a bad Texas A&M team his last season of college. His pro career was a surprise.