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Message: [QUOTE="Scoe, post: 3514174, member: 957"] Ray is greater because he was healthier and he was an all star for more years and won a ring as an all star and 1 as a role player. To be the greatest health is a factor so you do need to be lucky too. To Hills credit he came back from those injuries to still be a very good role player. He still made into the Hall of fame, I don’t understand why there is this debate about Ray and Hill they both got into Springfield together. If you ask me who was greater without hesitation I’m gonna say Ray and sure the durability is a huge factor. [/QUOTE]