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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2212843, member: 488"] OK, but I think that competitiveness is reflected in his skill set and in his statistical output. There is certainly an intangible component to every great athlete that can be tricky to qualify, but to the extent that Jordan had it and LeBron might not is going to wash out in the numbers just as anything else - like talent or athleticism - would. Trust me I get what you're saying but we don't need to invent a separate category to reward Jordan for his competitiveness when we already have a stat for that called wins and losses. If in the grand scheme that's what makes Jordan better, fine, but I'm not sure how it is relevant to my point about how their games would translate to different eras. [/QUOTE]