Lyman de priest is not in your list. You lost me.Modern era 1985+
1st Team:
Ricky Moore
Nadav Henefeld
Emeka Okafor
Donovan Clingan
Hasheem Thabeet
2nd Team:
Steph Castle
Scott Burrell
Andre Jackson
Jake Voskuhl
Amida Brimah
Honorable Mentions: Travis Knight, Donyell Marshall, Jeff Adrien, Josh Boone, Christian Vital, Isaiah Whaley, Hilton Armstrong, Ryan Boatright, Jeff Adrien
This!Clingan, DePriest, Ricky Moore, Andre Jackson, Castle.
Solid list but you gotta have Depriest on here if you’re talking about after 1985.Modern era 1985+
1st Team:
Ricky Moore
Nadav Henefeld
Emeka Okafor
Donovan Clingan
Hasheem Thabeet
2nd Team:
Steph Castle
Scott Burrell
Andre Jackson
Jake Voskuhl
Amida Brimah
Honorable Mentions: Travis Knight, Donyell Marshall, Jeff Adrien, Josh Boone, Christian Vital, Isaiah Whaley, Hilton Armstrong, Ryan Boatright, Jeff Adrien
Well you can have 2 bigs on either team. Regardless, Thabeet as 2x dpoy, over 4 blocks a game and similarly shut down everything at the rim is as good as Clingan if not slightly better. Both are behind Emeka for me. Thabeet also did it averaging like 32-33 MPG.
Per Allen Iverson, Ricky Moore was the only college player in the country capable of guarding him.No balance with respect to position in my list - just defensive impact
Castle (shut down every key scorer on the biggest stage)
Depreist (shut down pg [Scoonie Penn?} & defended Shaq) (who can deal man/man w/ a top center or top PG)
Clingan
Oakafor
Thabeet
Henefeld (passing lane steals virtually a career of steals in 1 year)(has to still hold record)
Brimah (a Defensive Player of the year)
Diarra (clear defensive disruption)
Whaley (impact protecting the rim, mid court steals trapping, and high hedge the best)
Moore or Jackson toss up reputation picks that are less firm with me
(Ricky by reputation but I can't think of specific top scorer shut downs, and Jackson was abused by both Gillespie and Richmond unable
to deal with getting isolated and backed down)
Maybe Sanogo who stood like a brick wall when post players tried to back him down, then collected the rebound.
I’m not sure when, but it suddenly became fact that Clingan was more dominant than Thabeet…I remember a 2 year span where they won a lot of games and he was the best shot blocker in the country for every minute of that.
He went #2 overall with ZERO offensive game. Just the fact he did it 2 years should put him in any conversation.
They didn’t finish, but his teams were a 4 seed and injured PG then 1 seed and injured 2G.
Someone mentioned team accomplishments as though Thabeet was padding stats on a loser!
I have Okafor comfortably 1st, then Thabeet JUST ahead of DC. But that is literally splitting hairs.Saying that Thabeet is behind Okafor and Clingan is hardly an insult to Thabeet.
30-0 in a sweet 16 game against a high power offense is the evidence I submit for Clingan. It is splitting hairs though.I have Okafor comfortably 1st, then Thabeet JUST ahead of DC. But that is literally splitting hairs.
Criminal no mention of Depriest. He's first team all time just for what he did to Dana Barros in the NIT semis 2nd halfModern era 1985+
1st Team:
Ricky Moore
Nadav Henefeld
Emeka Okafor
Donovan Clingan
Hasheem Thabeet
2nd Team:
Steph Castle
Scott Burrell
Andre Jackson
Jake Voskuhl
Amida Brimah
Honorable Mentions: Travis Knight, Donyell Marshall, Jeff Adrien, Josh Boone, Christian Vital, Isaiah Whaley, Hilton Armstrong, Ryan Boatright, Jeff Adrien
Lyman is HMLyman de priest is not in your list. You lost me.
Saying that Thabeet is behind Okafor and Clingan is hardly an insult to Thabeet.
Definitely not. But people acting like he is clearly 3rd when he was at least as dominant and for longer than Clingan is a bit of recency bias and probably marred by his (and ‘09 team) history compared to the others.
I’d think you’d agree that there’s a good bit of that going around the last few years, no?
Clingan is a monster, probably more impactful overall because of the end results. But look at individual and team success, hard to say Thabeet is not at least 2.
I forgot about that. I don’t think AI qualified it as just about college players. Perhaps he didn’t want to acknowledge a current NBA opponent but still, maybe he did include everyone he had faced.Per Allen Iverson, Ricky Moore was the only college player in the country capable of guarding him.