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Message: [QUOTE="msf22b, post: 3528159, member: 656"] I am one of those who have promulgated the Ivy theory; perhaps its leading exponant :) 1. Kelli has nothing to do with this discussion-totally irrelevant. let's get her off the table. 2. The basic theory has appeared from time to time on the ND site. If its being contemplated there, its certainly (at least) worthy of consideration here...which is (after all) an open discussion group. 3. The breakdown in the Irish game this season, went significantly beyond what might have been expected (the last game for example). Muffet's out of control, emotional reactions at times, also went significantly beyond what might have been expected Her lack of success could be perhaps overlooked, considering her past record ..but her behavior might well have been considered unprofessional, even unacceptable by the Admin. Two separate items here: a poorly prepared team and a distraught coach...(here a comparison to the previous UTenn coach might not be out of order). 4. Success of late at ND of late seemingly involved the combo of Muffet and Ivey...Admittedly it is a stretch to contemplate that the success was mostly that of Ivy...but it is possible... More likely (as per my last post on the subject) it was a combination of the two in some manner which promoted greatness...Muffet failed on her own, with this season's dismal performance; Ivy's up. [/QUOTE]