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Message: [QUOTE="msf22b, post: 3526564, member: 656"] There is always the possibility... that I have expounded upon at length for some years...I'm sure boring some to tears... That Muffet relied on Ivy to the point that Niele was the real power behind the thrown and without her Muffet was shown to be limited in recruiting, game planning, and in-game management. The admin, no dummies, came to the same conclusion; gave Muffet the shove and rehired Ivy who was lady-in-waiting in any case. She'll do fine (by the way). the only possible misgiving I have (to this bow-tied theory) is that Niele needed Muffet as much as the other way around [/QUOTE]