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Message: [QUOTE="JordyG, post: 2294734, member: 6819"] And the discussion was the difference between corporate "dreck" and banging on a tin can. "But that does not necessarily make it "better than", say, a warbling 90 year-old Elizabeth Cotton's stalling three chord performance of Irene Goodnight on an out-of-tune six-string." I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree. I'd rather hear an out of tune youth orchestra fumble through Stravinsky's Ebony Concerto or Debussy's La Mer than one minute of Ms. Cottonmouth. The blues is a genre of musical expression, yet any of those musician's you can probably mention are masters of their craft: how to give each note meaning, color, emotion, and an historical and social weight. "...they bespeak the Wiggins sisters' [I]shared [/I]inner voice and aesthetic sensibility". Hog and wash. I can bring together a quartet of 5 year olds with a "shared inner voice" etc. choking on kazoo's while screaming for their mommies. Here I'm sure they share a muse of discord. It doesn't make it music. I think you are confusing musical with music. A crocodile splashing and farting in a swamp can be musical, but that don't make it music. I'm sure someone, if they wanted could spend their life pounding on a tree with a silk hat, singing (badly) about coal miners and rafting down the Colorado and an audience would find his "simultaneous appropriation of and disconnect from the basic conventions of the pop music" refreshing. Frankly my discourse was more about musicianship and less about music, although yeah, [B]with a true musician[/B] it's hard to separate the two. I have no real wish to go further with this. However, I did see Zappa 4x back in the day and believe me, he was very serious about his product and hired the best musician's he could find. [/QUOTE]

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