More injuries in WBB (merged)

[hoopsnloops32]

Oh man, I didn't even realize that. That'd be a massive loss for UCONN. I hope she's okay for the NCAAs.

I mean at this point the season ended in January with Aubrey’s injury so it’s kinda whatever. Just hoping it’s not the last time we see Aaliyah in a UConn uniform and we get to see her in ga

Coach Yo has a point about defenders sliding under players. We've seen this a lot this year.

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"I do think that something has to be done with this whole block charge thing. It was unfortunate to see Last-Tear go down. There needs to be a rule and then people won't slide under people. I've seen it happen twice. If we're trying to protect players, then why don't we make the rule?​

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That was dangerous. She was trying to make a play. Right now the rule says no matter where you are on the floor, attempt to get up under someone and take a charge. Then she had to go out on a stretcher. So something has to be done with that rule.​

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It's simple. If we're trying to protect players, let's protect players. That's not the officials' fault. It's the rule that's wrong, all right?"​

but that’s not even what happened on this play. Her player charged through Poa who has been there waiting.

 

[GamecockFam]

I'm no rules expert, but I believe with the state of the game, officiating currently favors offenses, particularly guards, to recklessly attack the basket and force a foul to bail them out. I feel like a lot injuries occur from bad offensive playmaking getting rewarded. I don't know what rules could discourage it but I feel like rules need to be implemented that would discourage offensive recklessness.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

I'm no rules expert, but I believe with the state of the game, officiating currently favors offenses, particularly guards, to recklessly attack the basket and force a foul to bail them out. I feel like a lot injuries occur from bad offensive playmaking getting rewarded. I don't know what rules could discourage it but I feel like rules need to be implemented that would discourage offensive recklessness.

Too many guards allowed to push off or follow through (unnaturally) into the defender.

 

[LETTERL]

Madison Hayes hurt her knee in the first quarter of the ACCT Championship. Status unknown but she did not play again in the first half.

 

[cancontent]

I mean at this point the season ended in January with Aubrey’s injury so it’s kinda whatever. Just hoping it’s not the last time we see Aaliyah in a UConn uniform and we get to see her in ga

but that’s not even what happened on this play. Her player charged through Poa who has been there waiting.

If I recall the play correctly, Poa was below the circle. Last season, she likely wouldn't have been there because it would been a defensive block. This year, that area opening up has made the potential of these more likely.

 

[cancontent]

Agree. I'm all for the block/charge call for screens, or if a player goes into a defender while dribbling. The challenge with not allowing undercuts is that it happens so fast, and how do you define it - after one foot is off the ground? Put the arc back in so when a player leaves their feet and is in the air, you cannot go underneath? Something else?

Wasn't a fan of the arc being removed, but I'm also biased because I'm more used to and prefer FIBA rules. Maybe bring it back, but a tad closer to accommodate the preference of NCAA coaches? I don't know.

 

[OviedoFLHusky]

Brianna Scott of Georgetown was injured in the last minutes of their game against Creighton today. Could be a knee injury. She was wailing in pain on the floor; very difficult to hear. The announcers cut to a commercial.

Could be a factor in UConn's game against Georgetown tomorrow if she isn't available to play.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

40 years ago, a charge was called like 5% of the time. Now it’s about 50%. I know that players are quicker now, but I don’t think they are THAT quicker.

I agree. I hate it.

It's really hurt the college game particularly.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

I'm no rules expert, but I believe with the state of the game, officiating currently favors offenses, particularly guards, to recklessly attack the basket and force a foul to bail them out. I feel like a lot injuries occur from bad offensive playmaking getting rewarded. I don't know what rules could discourage it but I feel like rules need to be implemented that would discourage offensive recklessness.

I think it's sort of the opposite.

Everyone coaches their defenders to seek out charges and officials have more and more rewarded it.

It's sort of hard now for a driving player to get a call as opposed to 1987.

 

[WBBTakeover]

Brianna Scott of Georgetown was injured in the last minutes of their game against Creighton today. Could be a knee injury. She was wailing in pain on the floor; very difficult to hear. The announcers cut to a commercial.

Could be a factor in UConn's game against Georgetown tomorrow if she isn't available to play.

This is frightening. I had the misfortune of hearing PSU's Tay Valladay screeching in pain after suffering her career-ending knee injury six weeks ago. It's so gut-wrenching to hear and your heart just aches for the player. I just hope that her mom, Christy, didn't have to hear it from her daughter (but I'm guessing that she did, unfortunately).

 

[OviedoFLHusky]

This is frightening. I had the misfortune of hearing PSU's Tay Valladay screeching in pain after suffering her career-ending knee injury six weeks ago. It's so gut-wrenching to hear and your heart just aches for the player. I just hope that her mom, Christy, didn't have to hear it from her daughter (but I'm guessing that she did, unfortunately).

You are absolutely right, it was gut-wrenching. Her teammates looked like they were having a difficult time dealing with it; one player held her hands over her eyes, she just couldn't look.

Her mom was there -- but that may be a blessing in disguise. She was allowed on the floor to help escort her daughter off the court; and I'm sure she'll be providing important moral support.

 

[Geew1992]

Brianna Scott of Georgetown was injured in the last minutes of their game against Creighton today. Could be a knee injury. She was wailing in pain on the floor; very difficult to hear. The announcers cut to a commercial.

Could be a factor in UConn's game against Georgetown tomorrow if she isn't available to play.

She was the 2nd Hoyas player to go down with a knee injury

 

[OviedoFLHusky]

She was the 2nd Hoyas player to go down with a knee injury

Wow, I didn't see the whole game, so I didn't know of any further injuries. That's a shame. I do know that it was another "physical" game; I hope that these injuries aren't the result of yet another game that referees let get away from them.

 

[WBBTakeover]

She was the 2nd Hoyas player to go down with a knee injury

I wanted to watch the game to get a glimpse of Georgetown. I'm relieved that I didn't tune in.

 

[BRS24]

Infinite scream .....

 

[triaddukefan]

Torn ACL

 

[FormerCTrez]

Torn ACL

Sending prayers her way, and wishing her all the best during surgery, rehab and recovery.

 

[Centerstream]

And there goes her 2024 WNBA season. So sad.

 

[DefenseBB]

Kudos to her on a great career and her accolades this season. While the hope for her and Virginia Tech was a return visit to the Fianl Four, she has been a great player and I wish her only the best in the next phase of her basketball career, where ever it leads.
On a side note, I suspect VPI will not make it out of the 1st two rounds they are hosting and that Kenny Brooks may be headed over to Lexington a week from now…

 

[Charliebball]

Torn ACL

that's awful........sorry VT....just keep on playing......

 

[Vowelguy]

Torn ACL

Feel bad for Kitley but this would’ve been known in a day or two of it happening, which means the committee could’ve/should’ve had this info. Pretty lame that it didn’t.
(I assume they didn’t since VT without barely beat a Miami team that didn’t even make the field, and got stomped by ND, showing they weren’t even a top 20 team.)

IF the committee is going to say that injuries matter, they need to crack down on this lack of info.

 

[hoopsnloops32]

The season has officially been ruined by injuries. Has there ever been a season when more stars have been sidelined, mostly with ACL tears? Azzi, Rori, Olivia, now Kitley. All American level talent. So few top teams have avoided losing a top player for the season it’s so unfair. Hate it hate it hate it.

 

[BRS24]

Feel bad for Kitley but this would’ve been known in a day or two of it happening, which means the committee could’ve/should’ve had this info. Pretty lame that it didn’t.
(I assume they didn’t since VT without barely beat a Miami team that didn’t even make the field, and got stomped by ND, showing they weren’t even a top 20 team.)

IF the committee is going to say that injuries matter, they need to crack down on this lack of info.

I agree, as that's what was done many a year ago, however with the privacy & HIPAA challenges, there's no obligation to release anything. With the lack of info, the committee could seed the teams as if the player is coming back, however does it either give them an easier road up front, or it provides the opportunity for an early upset?? Conversely, if they assume the player is out for the tourney, if they seed them lower, it makes the journey harder. I might have just confused myself. LOL

 

[Henry]

I feel bad for Kitley, especially since this is her 5th yr, but VT had to know this before today. It doesn't take 18 days to diagnose a torn ACL. I wish the NCAA had some sort of recourse to penalize teams that withhold injury information. I know between both the mens and womens tournaments that VT is not the only one to have done this.

 

[hoopsnloops32]

Not sure why people this Virginia Tech deserved lower than a 4 seed? They won the ACC outright. Seeding should be just as much about what you accomplished than what you are projected to accomplish due to an injury.

 

[Vowelguy]

I agree, as that's what was done many a year ago, however with the privacy & HIPAA challenges, there's no obligation to release anything.

1) Playing in the tournament is a privilege not a right. If teams dont want to provide info; the committee doesnt have to select them.
2) You can release information ("she cant play") without violating HIPAA.
3) If I were the committee, I would request video of any injured player.

 

[BRS24]

1) Playing in the tournament is a privilege not a right. If teams dont want to provide info; the committee doesnt have to select them.
2) You can release information ("she cant play") without violating HIPAA.
3) If I were the committee, I would request video of any injured player.

I agree, as I hate gamesmanship for the sake of an assumed win(s), so based on my post, do you seed them where you think they should be if the player is ok? I'm running in circles with the cause and effect of doing this, or seeding them without the player available.

Hop on over to this thread and let's discuss!

 

[southie]

Awful news for Kitley, and her teammates.

Shame on Virginia Tech or whoever decided not to be forthcoming like 2 weeks ago that she would be out for the NCAA tournament.

 

[visitingcock]

And there goes her 2024 WNBA season. So sad.

And pdrop in the draft order more then likely.

 

[Hayven]

Awful news for Kitley, and her teammates.

Shame on Virginia Tech or whoever decided not to be forthcoming like 2 weeks ago that she would be out for the NCAA tournament.

Teams do it every year. ND did it last year with Olivia Miles