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baggerbob said:
The GOR for the Big 12 at the present time is only 6 yrs, and texas would walk away from that in a minute. They are getting 15 mil a year for 3rd tier from ESPN. If they ever sign a GOR for 13 yrs beware of the fine print, texas is and always will be about Texas.
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iirc the b12 agreement states that anyone who leaves during the period forfeits ALL tv revenue of any kind for the remainder of that 6 year period.
 
Swofford meeting with Clemson's President. Hmm.
 
zls44 said:
Swofford meeting with Clemson's President. Hmm.
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“@CFravel247: ACC commissioner John Swofford will be in Clemson this weekend starting tomorrow to discuss a number of topics with the Clemson BOT”

If anyone is bored... Go to Fravel's timeline for futher speculation on "agenda" - future of ACC, expansion, TV contract, yada, yada...

The meeting is being downplayed which makes me suspicious (Conspiracy Kitty wannabe).

ACC Media day starts Sunday in North Carolina.
 
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Larry Williams‏@LarryWilliamsTI
BOT chair D. Wilkins told me: "No doubt, future expansion of the ACC will be talked about" on Swofford visit.

@LarryWilliamsTI
Writer for Rivals web site Tigerillustrated.com. Author of Classic Clashes of the Carolina-Clemson Football Rivalry and The Danny Ford Years at Clemson
 
Gotta wait and see. Way too many false rumors in the past to take anyone seriously; even you Tuxedo Dodo.
 
claver2010 said:
RT by Joe Shad: Clemson Pres James Barker on John Swofford's meeting with BOT today: "I think it did nothing but reinforce our role in the ACC".


Well maybe next week?
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maybe? i'll be here.

honest question, as a bc fan what is your dream 16 league? everyone here knows mine is a 16 team big public east coast league. but as a bc fan what are your thoughts? are you more pro acc with like nd/psu type deal or what?
 
claver2010 said:
RT by Joe Shad: Clemson Pres James Barker on John Swofford's meeting with BOT today: "I think it did nothing but reinforce our role in the ACC".
Well maybe next week?
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Did it reinforce their role in the ACC as an afterthought to the teams on Tobacco Road, or did it reinforce their role in the ACC as committed conference member with no desire to explore other options? Pretty good "non-statement" by Barker.
 
Forgetting anyone in the SEC...I'll take as many big publics or reasonable facsimiles

BC. - biggest program in MA
SYR - NY
UConn - CT/NE
PSU - PA
RU - NJ
MD - DC
WVU
VA Tech
UVA
UNC
Nc St
FSU for 12

Miami. - small pvt but first alternate
ND For 14

Clemson/Scar for 16

GT - best available from GA


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SubbaBub said:
Forgetting anyone in the SEC...I'll take as many big publics or reasonable facsimiles

BC. - biggest program in MA
SYR - NY
UConn - CT/NE
PSU - PA
RU - NJ
MD - DC
WVU
VA Tech
UVA
UNC
Nc St
FSU for 12

Miami. - small pvt but first alternate
ND For 14

Clemson/Scar for 16

GT - best available from GA
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I like that. I'd almost take USF or UCF ahead of Miami at this point, too many scandals there, and media markets are similar - Tampa/St Pete #12, Miami #17, Orlando #20. I like G Tech for the Atlanta market (#9). If we can get WVU and ND and PSU, bring in Pitt as well for local rivalries, and go to 16. To trim, I don't think we need multiple teams in states - if NC St and Va Tech want to go to the SEC and SC stay, let 'em if we keep UNC and UVa and Clemson.

That would leave:

NORTH
BC, UConn, Syracuse, Rutgers, PSU, Pitt, WVU, ND
SOUTH
Md, UVa, UNC, Clemson, GTech, FSU, USF, UCF

Or move Md to north, take out one of Pitt/Cuse/BC, and add Miami to the south, or Duke if bball matters.

Better yet, take out all three of Pitt/Cuse/BC, and add in NC State/Va Tech/Miami. Then you have UConn-Rutgers for NYC/NJ/CT, PSU for Philly/Pennsylvania, MD/UVa/VaTech for DC, all the big markets in Florida -- this is the most valuable media lineup:

NORTH
UConn, Rutgers, Penn State, WVU, ND, Md, UVa, Va Tech
SOUTH
UNC, NC State, Clemson, GTech, FSU, USF, UCF, Miami

The other possibility is that 4 Florida teams is too many, and there should be 2 Florida and 2 Texas to maximize media markets and promote recruiting a la the NBE. So take out 2 of Miami/USF/UCF and replace with Houston (#10 media market) and TCU (#7 media market).

NORTH
UConn, Rutgers, Penn State, WVU, ND, Md, UVa, Va Tech
SOUTH
UNC, NC State, Clemson, GTech, FSU, one of USF/UCF/Miami, Houston, TCU
 
-fsu and clem have had enough. they call wvu and tell them not to sign the gor, just play 1 year in the b12 and then leave.
-psu gets kicked out or punished by the b10 on top off stuff, they talk with wvu/fsu and are in.
-fsu and clem pull in gt and they call md/uva/vt.
-they offer unc but they dont care
-uconn and ruty get the call. then lville/cincy also do before the b12 tries to live again.
-b10 invites kansas, ok and mizzu. ok/kan get okst/kst in also. iowa state is screwed.
-unc sees whats up now and pulls the trigger fearing be left out
-pitt feels like crap after this...
-sec adds baylor and tcu
-tex knows its the end, flirts with pac but gets it done with sec.
-sec invites tex/tt and tcu(mk) or baylor(vandy friend?)

Big Atlantic Conf(14)
north- wvu/psu/md/uconn/ruty/cincy/lville
south- fsu/gt/clem/uva/unc/vt/ncst

b10(14)
- psu
+ok/okst/kan/kst/mizu

sec(16)
-mizzu
+tex/tt/bay

pac(14)
+byu/unr

acc(10)
bc/pitt/cuse/duke/wake/miami
+ nova/gtown fball upgrades
+ army/navy
+ nd other sports, 3 fball games a year, bowl game help etc....
x try to add temple, usf and ucf but they say no and would rather be apart of a another league at this point.

west coast conf(14)
bsu/id/fresno/sdsu/wy/cst/ust/unlv/hawaii/sj/nm/nmst//utep

gulf coast conf(16)
east-usf/ucf/fau/fiu/ecu/gast/uab/furman or some 1 else...
west-uh/utsa/smu/tulsa/tulane/latech/smiss/mem

big east
=sju/prov/shu/dep/marq/day/xav/but/siena/a boston school
+ 6 more bball schools of your pick for a monster bball league to stay relevant and get a espn tv contract that keeps these schools alive.


:D
 
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