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Mora’s tweet on tampering happening right now

Sounds like this should be a bigger story in general or at least plastered on ESPN's NCAAF page with a "Breaking News" banner.

Now if Wisconsin wins that could go many ways. Either it really restricts tampering or it does nothing at all to curb tampering or somewhere in between these 2 extremes.
Would the NCAA have enough power to enforce penalties for tampering? It would have to be a larger governing NCAA body. The conferences certainly would not care because if the good players are transferring into a team in their conference why would they punish that team in their conference for getting that good player(s) even if it was through ill-gotten gains.
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On Wisconsin’s side here. If Miami wins then nothing stops a player from leaving after Week 3 for Alabama. Or basketball players leaving when their team is out of postseason contention by February. Needs to be resolved.
 
This is good what the hell took so long. Even UGA wasn't willing to bend over for Carson Beck.
 
NCAA isn't going to be anything other than a passenger in this. We've moved to contract law. If these NIL/Scholarship agreements have exclusively or non-compete language then schools can go after the players. Leagues like the B1G can also freeze out agents but that's unlikely to succeed.

Without a collective bargaining agreement, I'm not sure how they go after a poaching school. In pro sports, tampering is a league issue.

Wisconsin is shouting at the moon here.
 
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It's a good one but I personally would place it third.

Michigan's (Hail to the Victors) is second, ours (UConn Husky) is first.
 
NCAA isn't going to be anything other than a passenger in this. We've moved to contract law. If these NIL/Scholarship agreements have exclusively or non-compete language then schools can go after the players. Leagues like the B1G can also freeze out agents but that's unlikely to succeed.

Without a collective bargaining agreement, I'm not sure how they go after a poaching school. In pro sports, tampering is a league issue.

Wisconsin is shouting at the moon here.
Their choices are either be a passive victim, or make some noise about it, and hope that it changes the risk reward analysis of tampering at Wisconsin.

For what it's worth, as college athletes continue to move down the continuum from "student athlete" to semi professional athlete to pro athlete unionization would seem to be inevitable. I wonder whether becoming a "pro-lite" league will eventually cost fan support. A lot of people say that it will. I don't love it, but I don't necessarily see myself stopping watching games. I'll probably care a little bit less though.
 
NCAA isn't going to be anything other than a passenger in this. We've moved to contract law. If these NIL/Scholarship agreements have exclusively or non-compete language then schools can go after the players. Leagues like the B1G can also freeze out agents but that's unlikely to succeed.

Without a collective bargaining agreement, I'm not sure how they go after a poaching school. In pro sports, tampering is a league issue.

Wisconsin is shouting at the moon here.
Ya have to do something, even programs from the Big and SEC are affected by this, if 1 program speaks up, perhaps the next program does as well.

Sure tampering will always go on but the goal is to make those tampering schools world smaller, and make them feel more uncomfortable. It's about time some one had the stones to call out Miami.
 
NCAA isn't going to be anything other than a passenger in this. We've moved to contract law. If these NIL/Scholarship agreements have exclusively or non-compete language then schools can go after the players. Leagues like the B1G can also freeze out agents but that's unlikely to succeed.

Without a collective bargaining agreement, I'm not sure how they go after a poaching school. In pro sports, tampering is a league issue.

Wisconsin is shouting at the moon here.
They already said the transfer portal doesn't matter and kids can transfer, and immediately compete without it. So I guess this boils down to if the signed document between the school and the kid actually means anything. If it does, you wonder why they wouldn't be going after the kid. As for any tampering, it's unlikely they have anything other than some hearsay, and if they do have it and expose it, then it is only a matter of time until someone alleges it against them, or any other school. It's going to be more trouble than it is worth in my opinion. To me this just feels like one of the big 2 leagues trying to flex some muscle in an effort to scare teams from the other leagues away from their players.
 
They already said the transfer portal doesn't matter and kids can transfer, and immediately compete without it. So I guess this boils down to if the signed document between the school and the kid actually means anything. If it does, you wonder why they wouldn't be going after the kid. As for any tampering, it's unlikely they have anything other than some hearsay, and if they do have it and expose it, then it is only a matter of time until someone alleges it against them, or any other school. It's going to be more trouble than it is worth in my opinion. To me this just feels like one of the big 2 leagues trying to flex some muscle in an effort to scare teams from the other leagues away from their players.
-> In the complaint filed Friday, Wisconsin claims that a Miami staff member and a prominent alumnus met with Lucas and his family at a relative's home in Florida and offered him money to transfer shortly after Lucas signed a two-year contract with the Badgers in December. The lawsuit states that Miami committed tortious interference by knowingly compelling a player to break the terms of his deal with Wisconsin.

"While we reluctantly bring this case, we stand by our position that respecting and enforcing contractual obligations is essential to maintaining a level playing field," Wisconsin said in a statement to ESPN on Friday. <-
 
-> In the complaint filed Friday, Wisconsin claims that a Miami staff member and a prominent alumnus met with Lucas and his family at a relative's home in Florida and offered him money to transfer shortly after Lucas signed a two-year contract with the Badgers in December. The lawsuit states that Miami committed tortious interference by knowingly compelling a player to break the terms of his deal with Wisconsin.

"While we reluctantly bring this case, we stand by our position that respecting and enforcing contractual obligations is essential to maintaining a level playing field," Wisconsin said in a statement to ESPN on Friday. <-
Ok, so we assume they will come forward with the names and who the people were so that it can be proven. If they do, then great. As for the contract, that may or not be a contract, that will definitely be for lawyers to decide. Not really sure what role the NCAA will have in this when all is said and done.
 
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"Wisconsin released a statement to Yahoo Sports on Friday, saying that it “reluctantly” filed the suit and that it is “committed to ensuring integrity and fundamental fairness in the evolving landscape of college athletics.” The university is not bringing legal action against Lucas.

The Big Ten Conference is supporting the suit against Miami."


Greg Flugaur said that this could be detrimental to Miami's hopes of getting a Big 10 invite.
 
Last week South Carolina QB (Sellers) + his father said they turned down a 2 year NIL deal from another school for 8 Million $$. Maybe there is still a little loyalty left out there.
 
this is gonna get worse and worse... and worse... until we establish an NFL-like governance model (commish, salary cap, players union, trade/transfer deadlines, fine/consequence structure for violations, etc.)

of course, none of this ^ matters if enforcement isn't in place.

Someone, ANYone... needs to police this madness.
 
Ok, so we assume they will come forward with the names and who the people were so that it can be proven. If they do, then great. As for the contract, that may or not be a contract, that will definitely be for lawyers to decide. Not really sure what role the NCAA will have in this when all is said and done.
 
A nice recap, but nothing new there yet. At least if you follow this stuff anyway. I'm sure this will play out over time, with the key thing being these agreements. Now that schools can pay players, as opposed to before, will these agreements become binding contracts, and will players sign them, or even try to negotiate them during their recruitment? If some leagues and programs want to use them and some don't, what happens then? I understand the idea that these can be used to restrict players moving from school to school on a whim, but I think they need to be standard across college football for it to work. We will see how it all plays out I guess.
 
Do any of these 2 year NIL deals come with an out clause or penalty for breaking them? I feel like all you need is to add a substantial penalty for breaking the 2 year deal and tampering would possibly be curbed?
 
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-> In the complaint filed Friday, Wisconsin claims that a Miami staff member and a prominent alumnus met with Lucas and his family at a relative's home in Florida and offered him money to transfer shortly after Lucas signed a two-year contract with the Badgers in December. The lawsuit states that Miami committed tortious interference by knowingly compelling a player to break the terms of his deal with Wisconsin.

"While we reluctantly bring this case, we stand by our position that respecting and enforcing contractual obligations is essential to maintaining a level playing field," Wisconsin said in a statement to ESPN on Friday. <-

INAL, but this case sounds pretty weak. Is Miami not allowed to talk to professors, administrators, janitors, ordinary students about employment opportunities?

Unless there is some contractual language on this, seems W is howling at the moon.

The endgame here is pretty clear. The SEC and B1G will start adding clauses to the NIL deals.
 
NILs with non-competes. What a world.

Could be a boon for FCS, lol.
 

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