Michigan State is Dirty.

[raf46]

MSU is dirty, so the NCAA comes after UCONN. I guess Mississippi Valley State was other wise occupied.

 

[gtcam]

If Izzo keeps saying "I pray for the survivors" enough times he thinks it will absolve him and the program
His interview after this past Sunday's game couldn't have appeared more disingenuous

 

[Adios]

For college athletics to evolve from physical fitness to abuses of the worst kinds is quite the indictment on humanity.

 

[jibsey]

Are these the kinds of things that will bring MSU postseason sanctions and scholarship losses? I'm thinking it's easier for the NCAA to punish for illegal phone calls than horrendous crimes.

 

[Kembacity]

If Izzo keeps saying "I pray for the survivors" enough times he thinks it will absolve him and the program
His interview after this past Sunday's game couldn't have appeared more disingenuous

The same way Payne thought being that sick little girl's best friend would absolve him of any wrongdoing

Go seek out Walton's official statement on all of the story details. He legitimately claims that in the altercation at the bar, out of nowhere and for no reason the woman threw a drink on him and he then left the bar... And yet he plead guilty to littering as a result??

And as expected 95% of the MSU fans believe every word and 'cant wait' to see ESPN fry for their poor reporting. How anyone could believe the guy when his statement basically says "I never did anything even remotely wrong in any of the situations mentioned" is just so beyond me I can't even explain it.

To me, the fact that he doesn't even admit he was hitting on her and being a bit pushy to deserve having a drink thrown on him, and yet he opted to plead guilty to a charge rather than fight the charges is proof enough that his statement is complete trash

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

The same way Payne thought being that sick little girl's best friend would absolve him of any wrongdoing

That’s how he’ll go down as. Which is super messed up.

 

[huskypantz]

Are these the kinds of things that will bring MSU postseason sanctions and scholarship losses? I'm thinking it's easier for the NCAA to punish for illegal phone calls than horrendous crimes.

Don't give out cream cheese on your bagel, but no worries if you sweep a sexual assault or two under the rug. Or make up some classes.

 

[UCDaveD]

MSU is the collegiate version of the Karolyi Ranch, but they'll walk away scot free.

 

[freescooter]

Every crime is not an NCAA rule violation. MSU is creepy and disgusting. And very possibly criminally negligent among other things. That doesn’t mean they violated the NCAA rules.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Every crime is not an NCAA rule violation. MSU is creepy and disgusting. And very possibly criminally negligent among other things. That doesn’t mean they violated the NCAA rules.

Then what the hell is the point of the NCAA?

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Every crime is not an NCAA rule violation. MSU is creepy and disgusting. And very possibly criminally negligent among other things. That doesn’t mean they violated the NCAA rules.

Sadly you’re right.

 

[the Q]

The same way Payne thought being that sick little girl's best friend would absolve him of any wrongdoing

Go seek out Walton's official statement on all of the story details. He legitimately claims that in the altercation at the bar, out of nowhere and for no reason the woman threw a drink on him and he then left the bar... And yet he plead guilty to littering as a result??

And as expected 95% of the MSU fans believe every word and 'cant wait' to see ESPN fry for their poor reporting. How anyone could believe the guy when his statement basically says "I never did anything even remotely wrong in any of the situations mentioned" is just so beyond me I can't even explain it.

To me, the fact that he doesn't even admit he was hitting on her and being a bit pushy to deserve having a drink thrown on him, and yet he opted to plead guilty to a charge rather than fight the charges is proof enough that his statement is complete trash

No surprise with Walton. Wasn’t he the scumbag who tried to start a fight at the 09 FF and then backdown when he realized Adrien would kill him?

 

[billybud]

Are they investigating recruiting violations at MSU? Or extra benefits doled out?

If they are investigating a cover up of the known abuse of athletes...that seems in another realm, to me, than the NCAA's forte of determining whether added competitive advantage was involved in banned aspects of athlete recruitment.

The school will probably be involved in Title IX investigations, criminal investigations...and, depending on the statute of lmitations, will be defending law suits.

 

[krinklecut]

Every crime is not an NCAA rule violation. MSU is creepy and disgusting. And very possibly criminally negligent among other things. That doesn’t mean they violated the NCAA rules.

The first NCAA rule really ought to be "your program shall not engage in criminal activity."

 

[whaler11]

Then what the hell is the point of the NCAA?

To run tournaments and broker TV deals.

The NCAA answers to the schools not the other way around.

If the schools wanted the NCAA to have teeth they would.

 

[freescooter]

Well one thing it is not is to be the police and the courts and the MSU Board of Trutees. If someone violates an NCAA rule they can do something but if someone commits a criminal act that is a matter for other authorities. Of course it is possible to do both. Louisville seems the master of that. Prostitution is illegal. Hiring whores for recruits also violates NCAA rules. In this case it seems more illegal than a violation of the NCAA rule book. Of course one would hope the university’s governing body would take strong action since it is their program. They probably won’t but until they don’t Hope remains.

 

[intlzncster]

The NCAA answers to the schools not the other way around.

If the schools wanted the NCAA to have teeth they would.

Huh, coulda fooled UCONN.

 

[whaler11]

Huh, coulda fooled UCONN.

The penalties UConn suffered have become a big deal here because people have struggled to explain why the program cratered.

Turns out it wasn’t that complicated.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Michigan State needs to get the death penalty for perhaps a decade. That will serve as a deterent.

 

[intlzncster]

The penalties UConn suffered have become a big deal here because people have struggled to explain why the program cratered.

Turns out it wasn’t that complicated.

Yeah but they had some pretty good sized teeth relative to the the actual infraction. Double jeopardy I'm looking at you. It's all relative in the end.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

The Louisville cardinal is the only bird with teeth. Coincidence?

 

[CTBasketball]

I wish we beat those losers in 2009.

 

[the Q]

I wish we beat those losers in 2009.

That is one the worst losses to me.

That team was not even remotely as talented as that Uconn team.

Thabeet and adrien got dominated on the boards.

Not having Dyson was huge for that game.

 

[champs99and04]

Travis Walton was a good player. I think he's the kid who got the better of A.J. Price in Detroit. One hell of a defensive player, that's for sure. I remember him appearing on the Jim Rome show after they won the regional final against Louisville. He was a captain, or at least one of them, on a team that in hindsight, man they had some guys with edge to them. Raymar Morgan, Kalin Lucas, Corey Lucious, Durrell Summers, Draymond Green...those dudes were either complete street brawlers or on the "conduct detrimental to the team" all-stars. I kind of respect Izzo for having the cajones to recruit all of them to the same team.

The quotes from that article don't make him look great. I mean, to punch a women in public, he must have had some real anger and self-restraint issues.

 

[Husk1881]

I hate the idea that in a year the NCAA will come out and say MSU students were also being helped by this massive sex scandel so no punishment.