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huskymedic said:
Where did you see the #'s?

4m MHver3 ‏@MHver3
NBC will pay more yet cannot give them a BCS slot. The deal wouldn't include all tiers.

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All sports members would receive about half what the ACC makes. I may take back all the good things I said about Aresco...

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Hold your horses on B12 expansion! Or maybe...espn close to a deal with the Big East that will pay them laughably yet give them BCS access

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With the promised revenue increase from espn it's also what makes their offer seem even sweeter. But do we take USF or hold out for FSU?

5h MHver3 ‏@MHver3
Adding NYC/NJ, KY/OH, FL markets increases B12 market penetration by over 100%. It's why expansion is so imperative.
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most of those tweets have since been deleted. BCS access? There is no more BCS!
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
most of those tweets have since been deleted. BCS access? There is no more BCS!
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i still see them

and by bcs access i think hes talking about getting the nbe a deal in one of the bowl games for its 1st place team vs just getting in being the best of the rest. thats a big deal if so.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
i still see them

and by bcs access i think hes talking about getting the nbe a deal in one of the bowl games for its 1st place team vs just getting in being the best of the rest. thats a big deal if so.
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the top three in the quoted text aren't showing up on my screen. even when i click on the link in the quoted text it says cannot find page.
 
ESPN kidnapped him... (or Mom yelled down that milk and cookies were on the table).
 
MHver3‏@MHver3
If BE turns down this deal the B12 will most likely reclaim their namesake.

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@Ruknighttime espn will not require a GOR

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@Ruknighttime 8 for all sports. 4 for bball or FB only

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Still no definitive word on when we will renew the BYB. Negotiations ongoing. ACC at 8 conference games helps a lot. 2014 or 2015.

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Wouldn't have been a bad deal really.

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NBC reportedly was willing to pay close to 18 million per team had the BE retained Pitt, Cuse, WVU, TCU and added 2 more to get to 12 in FB.

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@ChristopherGr28 indeed

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...to retain rights for every game they broadcast for the duration of the contract, exclusive negotiating rights for conference network.

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From the BigEast Espn wants: all men's bball rights(tournament too), 1st pick of 15 FB games and conf championship, and...

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@ctkevb because espn controls the bowls. The seventh bowl you've all heard about is the "appease the BigEast bowl"

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HuskyfanDan said:
MHver3‏@MHver3
If BE turns down this deal the B12 will most likely reclaim their namesake.

Does this mean the B-12 returns to twelve schools (taking one or two BE schools) or is the 'namesake' something different entirely?


6mMHver3‏@MHver3
Still no definitive word on when we will renew the BYB. Negotiations ongoing. ACC at 8 conference games helps a lot. 2014 or 2015.

What exactly is BYB?
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So, just to point out the obvious. But a random Internet dude (who I know has been questioned repeatedly in the past) now has access to inner negotiations between the Big East and ESPN? And ESPN, which has no seat at the table with the "power 5" conferences, can assure the Big East a Major Bowl? Or that the alleged $8.5 million for only Tier 1 rights seems incredibly high in light of these figures:

http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/705/

Does not pass the smell test.
 
If BYB is Backyard Brawl (keep in mind that he used the term we), all credibility goes out the window (unless you believe that WVU has had inside information all along).
 
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Oh and you guys are following the one who believed Nick Saban was to be the next ball coach of WVU in Dec 2010.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
i still see them

and by bcs access i think hes talking about getting the nbe a deal in one of the bowl games for its 1st place team vs just getting in being the best of the rest. thats a big deal if so.
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Agree that's what it means and also agree that it wold in fact be a big deal.
 
My conclusion from all this twitter chatter is that ESPN is holding the guillotene over the BE by hinting that the BE has to accept the ESPN deal or the B-12 will take action and grab Louisville and Rutgers/Cincy/USF.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
If BYB is Backyard Brawl (keep in mind that he used the term we), all credibility goes out the window (unless you believe that WVU has had inside information all along).
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He's a WVU fan.

MHver3

@MHver3

Mountaineers sports rumors, news, and assorted Big12 goodness.
 
vowelguy said:
I do, and I'm sure most others do as well.

Flipping you get to see the current score/situation. And if they've switched to another game.
I want to watch whatever game is most interesting at that time. I doubt I'm alone in that preference.
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Best way to watch:

Turn on channel 4. Watch what is on channel 4. Consider watching what channel 4 promotes in the future.
 
whaler11 said:
Best way to watch:

Turn on channel 4. Watch what is on channel 4. Consider watching what channel 4 promotes in the future.
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Uh, you might want to consider that not everyone has the same channel 4 as you. Unless you're telling me to watch CBS.
 
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vowelguy said:
Uh, you might want to consider that not everyone has the same channel 4 as you. Unless you're telling me to watch CBS.
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You missed the reference to other threads.
 
@MHver3: The B10 will make waves. Not a splash. 4 separate states south of the mason Dixon.

@MHver3: GT. UNC. UVA. Miami. It's well documented that the U is my 2nd favorite team. Do I think it's a good fit? Not really but WVU is in the B12..
 
Also:

MHver3‏@MHver3
Firm controlling BigEast tv negotiations advising BE officials to take the contract to the open market

MHver3‏@MHver3
News has been slow lately but big things are brewing. I'm gonna update my expansion alert level from yellow to orange. Big Ten eyeing 4

MHver3‏@MHver3
BigEast decision on staying with espn or seeking greener pastures could very well start the festivities.

MHver3‏@MHver3
The B10 will make waves. Not a splash. 4 separate states south of the mason Dixon.

MHver3‏@MHver3
Sources saying their is mutual interest among the four schools who have been contacted via back channels.
 
A school like UNC can't just pick up and leave the ACC. It's bit more politically explosive than that.

The Big 10 needs to get southern schools though - only way they can keep level of play high. Will slowly fake tied off from recruiting the south.
 
whaler11 said:
A school like UNC can't just pick up and leave the ACC. It's bit more politically explosive than that.

The Big 10 needs to get southern schools though - only way they can keep level of play high. Will slowly fake tied off from recruiting the south.
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Agreed. But if something like that ever did occur, the end game would be upon us, and UConn would be looking at a conference comprised of the likes of Wake, Duke, MD, Pitt, SU, BCU, Temple, USF and some of the NBE members.
 
jostar1 said:
MHver3‏@MHver3
The B10 will make waves. Not a splash. 4 separate states south of the mason Dixon.
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But who are the 4? MD, VA, UNC, GT?
Not exactly a murderer's row.
And I too am skeptical about the Heels ability to venture off.

Fla St would be news, but not sure I can see B10 going that bold.
 
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vowelguy said:
But who are the 4? MD, VA, UNC, GT?
Not exactly a murderer's row.
And I too am skeptical about the Heels ability to venture off.

Fla St would be news, but not sure I can see B10 going that bold.
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The first four would fit the academic profile best (over other ACC teams) but I'd be mildly surprised if this move is made now. If they do go I'd be slightly less excited about the ACC invite to UConn and Rutgers that would inevitably follow (but not enough to make the NBE more attractive, again on an academics/admissions basis). If that scenario happens we'd still be joining an OBE lineup that we thought we were upgrading to in the first place (BC Pitt Cuse VT RU Miami UConn) with the ACC leftovers, plus Notre Dame (partial) minus Temple, and that would be the case even if FSU and Clemson also leave the ACC. I guess NC State and VT might go SEC, but we'd still be playing Duke in hoops and Wake is the southern BC.

Anyway, I don't think UNC pulls the trigger, and if they don't go I don't think any of the others go, except maybe GT. The Miami thing is a drug-addled delusion.
 
There's no chance that this rumor is even a teeny bit true.
 
Agreed. There's no way UNC voluntarily leaves the ACC. People like to complain how much they run the conference. I think that's way less true than people want to believe, but UNC is still exactly where they want to be. Not to mention, what the hell would the Big 10 do with a private school like Miami? And honestly, how do state schools like UNC and UVA leave other in-state schools (VT, NC State) in the dust. Politically it won't happen. Not to mention all these schools just voted to approve a $50 million exit fee. These moves don't just happen overnight. No school approves to raise its own exit fee when it's imminently considering leaving.
 
MD might have a way around the exit fee in the courts since they voted against it. The others if they voted for it wouldn't be able to. Plus MD doesn't have a sister state school to worry about.
 
This stuff is fun to read as I eat my breakfast before heading to today's game. I really don't think MHver3 has the sources some of you think he has, but it seems he just states likely, probable, possible, or improbable events.

I think the Big 1G needs to expand. Why? The demographics and economic outlook of the Midwest are not favorable, so it's not rocket science to think they would love to expand with schools from the mid Atlantic and South. In addition, and I have thought about this for a while. The ACC MAY now be a more attractive conference for Penn State with BC, Syracuse, Pitt, MD, ND, and Miami who are all traditional rivals. And, it gets Penn St into the Southeast/Florida for recruiting and alumni. If Penn State left the Big 1G, football would take a serious blow and the ACC would surpass the Big 1G as a football conference.

Remember, few of the Big 1G have natural recruiting advantages, although many have large fan bases.

I'm not saying this is a high probability, but the Big 1G may decide to expand to improve their long term outlook.
 
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