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I live in Tennessee. Memphis is simply an awful city. It is one of the few southern cities that losing population and not gaining any business traction. The football program is in shambles and the hoops program is no longer top tier. There is hopefully a long list of schools ahead of Memphis is the BE pecking order.

Memphis is SEC territory. The school is currently the 4th best college team in the state behind UT, Vandy and Middle Tennessee and the football fanbase is all UT, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.

There is no reason for the BE to even think about adding Memphis.

Pretty much every city in the south is awful. They are poor, violent and filthy. Every single one of them. MTSU is not ahead of Memphis in any measure we would care about. The Basketball program will be Top 20 this year.

I am not a huge advocate of Memphis, but after SMU, Houston, UCF and Temple, I would have Memphis next on the list. It has the city all to itself, the basketball program is one of the best available, and the football program can be competitive, as it was about 7-8 years ago.
 
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Pretty much every city in the south is awful. They are poor, violent and filthy. Every single one of them.
Just when I think it is impossible for you to paint with a broader brush, you post something that proves you can. Wow.
 
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I'm a BB guy, not as much of a football fan although I follow it, so I'll leave it to those who know more to discuss whether Memphis can build a football program. But their basketball has been consistently good for a long time, they have a great recruiting base and the school has shown committment to the program, the arena is large and their fans come out. They would be an asset to the conference in that way.
 

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its simple. we have 12 now and we should look for 16. memphis has huge potential. but right now they would hurt the rankings that would make sure we get to keep that bcs tag. so what to do?
split first! and goto to comcast/fox for $ first...
2012:
east-uconn/ruty/wvu/usf/ucf/navy(fball only)
west-lville/cincy/smu/uh/bosie(fball only)/(fball only)
you tell memphis and temple they can join in bball next year and in fball for 2015. that gives temple time to continue to build and lock in the eagles stadium for the long run, basically kill any hope of nova. let them become philis team and force nova to be just another catholic bball school. phili may never be a great college town but this can only help...memphis now has a huge job on ther hands. the bball being in the league early gets the fanbase fired up and interested in the league somewhat. it alows fedex $ to build and for them to improve facilities as needed and build that program. you also tell ecu that they can play fball only(and baseball :)). now we look for #16 for the west.
2015:
east-uconn/ruty/wvu/usf/ucf/temple/navy(fball only)/ecu(fball only)
west-lville/cincy/smu/uh/memphis/#16/bosie(fball only)/(fball only)

look at that league now. good enough fball for bcs in good mk's and solid bball to boot with a even ratio of 2 fball onlys per division. #16 needs to be all in. maybe thats a nevada/unlv/cali school or some1 else. maybe by then the b12 is falling apart again and you get a kan/kst/ist/bay type school to jump ship, or all of them defect together. the BE has options is the point! would i rather be in the big or acc? sure would, but if not i want the best possible for uconn and i think this aproach is it...
 

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Pretty much every city in the south is awful. They are poor, violent and filthy. Every single one of them. MTSU is not ahead of Memphis in any measure we would care about. The Basketball program will be Top 20 this year.

I am not a huge advocate of Memphis, but after SMU, Houston, UCF and Temple, I would have Memphis next on the list. It has the city all to itself, the basketball program is one of the best available, and the football program can be competitive, as it was about 7-8 years ago.

Charlotte? Tampa? Orlando? Miami? Dallas? Nashville? Houston? Atlanta?

Okay. I'll live in any of them shiiitttholes before you catch me in Hartford or Bridgeport.

Dumb people are offended that they're associated with you.
 
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No more non-football members. We have more than our fair share already. We need to be trying to minimize the influence that the current non-football schools have not increase it.
You seem to forget that UConn was a non football member for 20 years. The world didn't start in 2001.
 
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Memphis would make a great addition to the Big East. They have a great basketball history. Their football will improve as they recruit better players once joining the Big East. Just like USF and UConn football grew by leaps once moving up to FBS in the Big East.
 
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You seem to forget that UConn was a non football member for 20 years. The world didn't start in 2001.

I remember that well. I just don't think we need to add any more non-football members. I am not an advocate of dropping the ones currently in the league.
 
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i've only been to Memphis once, for a weekend about 10 years ago, and i decided early on in that trip that it was one of my favorite cities, and everyone i know that's visited has enjoyed themselves as well. granted i spent most of my time on Beale St or down at the casino boats in Tunica, but as far as i can see it would be a great place to visit every couple of years for a game.

football wise they played in a bowl game every year from 2003-2008. that's a lot better than USF or Cinci looked when they joined. plus it being a southern city, with southern football fans could help us getting bowl arrangements. they were a better than .500 team for most of this past decade, it's not like their doomed to an eternal state of being horrendous. they certainly have enough going for them that i'd put them that they're one of the better options if you need to add another 4 or 5 teams. i could see them not being in someone's top 2, but come on, we need to add a lot of teams.
 

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i've only been to Memphis once, for a weekend about 10 years ago, and i decided early on in that trip that it was one of my favorite cities, and everyone i know that's visited has enjoyed themselves as well. granted i spent most of my time on Beale St or down at the casino boats in Tunica, but as far as i can see it would be a great place to visit every couple of years for a game.

football wise they played in a bowl game every year from 2003-2008. that's a lot better than USF or Cinci looked when they joined. plus it being a southern city, with southern football fans could help us getting bowl arrangements. they were a better than .500 team for most of this past decade, it's not like their doomed to an eternal state of being horrendous. they certainly have enough going for them that i'd put them that they're one of the better options if you need to add another 4 or 5 teams. i could see them not being in someone's top 2, but come on, we need to add a lot of teams.

A good, reasonable post. Memphis is a lot like New Orleans. It's got a ton of poverty in most of the living areas, but it's got a great tourist area too.

If someone wants to post that an urban school like Memphis that has lots of poverty surrounding the campus won't attract many of the same students (and thereby a university atmosphere) that Uconn is looking to associate with, that's a fair statement. Urban schools are going to be different than most state universities. I can't think of too many state universities located in the middle of major cities.

So, if we are talking Memphis as a fit culturally and academically, not so much. But for fans, it would be a great place to visit for a football weekend. When I was in Nashville for the Vandy game I told my wife that the Nashville bar/club district reminded me very much of Beale St.

For me, it's Front/Mallory in Key West, Beale St., Gaslamp district in San Diego and French Quarter for places to unwind and chill out.

It's about perspective. Personally I think San Francisco is a dump, the people have bad skin and have bad attitudes too. But I'm not going to rail against people that like the city or culture.
 
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At this moment Memphis is arguably the worst FBS team out of 120. If they are not the worst, then they are definitely among the 10-20 worst. Their football program has declined significantly since 2008. The BE simply cannot afford to add a team like Memphis no matter how good their basketball is or how much potential they may have. Even though Cincy and USF were not Top 25 teams when they came to the BE, they were Top 50, middle of the pack teams with good coaches (D'Antonio and Leavitt). The same can be said now for SMU, Houston, NAVY, AFU and UCF. Memphis is so far behind these teams that it simply makes no sense to take a chance on them right now. If they put together consecutive winning (bowl) seasons and it becomes evident that they are improving then the BE can consider adding them in the future. No chance that will or should happen now.
 
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Memphis would actually gets it's time to prove it can shine in the lower tier of the FBS schools. Kind of like the relegation/promotion system in the EPL and other European soccer leagues. We are so acclimated to brands.
 
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i've asked at least 2 or 3 times why people are so bad on Memphis and i have yet to hear a legitimate reason. other than their scumbags, pirates and thieves. they may be that, and if they are i don't want them, but give me some examples. i know calipari's a cheater, but it has to be more than that. some of you seem to have a real genuine hatred of the place which i find odd considering it's just a school.

academically it's tier 2, with acceptance of 67%. washington monthly rated it higher than UT for whatever that's worth. not exactly ivy league, but certainly within the realms of the Big East


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i've asked at least 2 or 3 times why people are so bad on Memphis and i have yet to hear a legitimate reason. other than their scumbags, pirates and thieves. they may be that, and if they are i don't want them, but give me some examples. i know calipari's a cheater, but it has to be more than that. some of you seem to have a real genuine hatred of the place which i find odd considering it's just a school.

academically it's tier 2, with acceptance of 67%. washington monthly rated it higher than UT for whatever that's worth. not exactly ivy league, but certainly within the realms of the Big East
i've asked at least 2 or 3 times why people are so bad on Memphis and i have yet to hear a legitimate reason. other than their scumbags, pirates and thieves. they may be that, and if they are i don't want them, but give me some examples. i know calipari's a cheater, but it has to be more than that. some of you seem to have a real genuine hatred of the place which i find odd considering it's just a school.

academically it's tier 2, with acceptance of 67%. washington monthly rated it higher than UT for whatever that's worth. not exactly ivy league, but certainly within the realms of the Big East
 
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