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On Mahaney.. I told you so.

He will be a killer in the Joey California+ role.
 
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I’m starting to wonder if the staff over indexed on elite “processing” with Mahaney at the sake of physical tools. You can’t teach size, speed and physicality, all of which he’s showing a severe shortage in competing with better athletes. People keep talking about TNewt needing a year to figure it out, yet fail to recognize he had plus physical traits for his position. The only way Mahaney becomes a net positive and not a liability is if he demonstrates intangibles that overcome the physical shortages. I honestly don’t know how they make it work.
He played at St. Mary's not Mount St. Mary's.

He had 23, 20, 18, 16 against Gonzaga. 25 against New Mexico. 22 against Utah. 19 against Boise State. 20 against San Diego State. 18 against BYU. 14 against Houston.

He doesn't look good as starting point guard but the guy has proven he can score the ball and score against good competition.
 
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All the Nowell stuff seems like backup qb syndrome tbh. Nobody has any idea how good he is right now, his defense didn’t even look good against mid majors.
His defense certainly looked better than Mahaney’s in those games. It’s not backup QB syndrome, it’s we’ve seen Mahaney for this portion and think Nowell should get some more run when healthy.

And I will gladly eat my words tomorrow if he comes out and makes us on here look like fools btw. I want to see the kid be great, heck, i’ve seen him be really good the past 2 years!
 
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All the Nowell stuff seems like backup qb syndrome tbh. Nobody has any idea how good he is right now, his defense didn’t even look good against mid majors.
I thought he looked good in his minutes but he's played so few minutes and against such awful teams it's hard to know. I know he's really talented and doesn't have the body of a freshman.

Tahaad Pettiford is getting 21 minutes per game for #4 Auburn, he's a lot more slight than Nowell and I don't think he's any better than him.
 
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I thought he looked good in his minutes but he's played so few minutes and against such awful teams it's hard to know. I know he's really talented and doesn't have the body of a freshman.

Tahaad Pettiford is getting 21 minutes per game for #4 Auburn, he's a lot more slight than Nowell and I don't think he's any better than him.
Tahaad is great, probably more crafty than Ahmad, but Ahmad is a Running Back
 
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Mahaney had a bad game, but I am willing to give him a little more time. The staff must have seen something.
The problem is he has had 5 bad games. It isn't just one bad game it is a pattern now and before he was playing against lower level teams.
 
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All the Nowell stuff seems like backup qb syndrome tbh. Nobody has any idea how good he is right now, his defense didn’t even look good against mid majors.
I disagree on that. He was very physical and kept in front of his man. He certainly played bettter than Mahany did on D. I do agree he is still a Freshman so there is still unknown about him but Mahaney isn't the answer at PG.
 
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He played at St. Mary's not Mount St. Mary's.

He had 23, 20, 18, 16 against Gonzaga. 25 against New Mexico. 22 against Utah. 19 against Boise State. 20 against San Diego State. 18 against BYU. 14 against Houston.

He doesn't look good as starting point guard but the guy has proven he can score the ball and score against good competition.
This is pretty faulty rationale, on many levels. He wasn’t brought in to be a 2G. He played in the WCC for the bulk of his numbers, which sends two schools to the dance annually max. His efficiency numbers last year were not good, at 37% shooting. Most of his points came via inefficient volume in a system predicated on slow pace. His defense is a clear liability. The eyeball test is not great.

After hitting up the open practice in August was curious as to if I was missing something, threw on the Grand Canyon tape from the NCAAT last year and it looked a lot like what we’ve seen. GC had good athletes and went by him downhill all game. AM got his 13 points on 5-21 shooting. PPG alone are not a great indicator of overall production.
 
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This is pretty faulty rationale, on many levels. He wasn’t brought in to be a 2G. He played in the WCC for the bulk of his numbers, which sends two schools to the dance annually max. His efficiency numbers last year were not good, at 37% shooting. Most of his points came via inefficient volume in a system predicated on slow pace. His defense is a clear liability. The eyeball test is not great.

After hitting up the open practice in August was curious as to if I was missing something, threw on the Grand Canyon tape from the NCAAT last year and it looked a lot like what we’ve seen. GC had good athletes and went by him downhill all game. AM got his 13 points on 5-21 shooting. PPG alone are not a great indicator of overall production.
Your post was about him not having the size, speed, and physicality to compete with better athletes. His career has shown he can compete and score the ball quite well against against top athletes.

We all know he hasn't looked good as our starting point guard but it's nonsense that he can't compete against athletes at this level.
 
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Mahaney is a bench player. I said over the summer he a better Joey C. I remember when Joey was getting blown by in the beginning of the year too, but not later in the year so who knows, Mahaney may improve also. I also like it when he drove and his ideas were good, he just couldn’t finish. Maybe Clingan and Sanogo hid these problems. Reed is an animal and looks like an All American, but he’s not really a shot blocker even though he can. Looking at our bench, I’m afraid the staff may have painted themselves into a corner with Aidan, so it has to work. And it may, it just may. Also the team overall BBIQ isn’t as high as the last two years and they still need to learn each other better. I think it will all work in the end.
 
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It’s November… I remember people doubting Clingan’s potential this time last year too. Maybe it doesn’t pan out for all three of them, but it’s way too early in the season for that level of declaration.
Wasn't Clingan coming off the foot injury?
 

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Tough loss. Team fought hard. Lotsa players made big shots for both teams. We lost but there was a lot of good that came from this game. We’ll be just fine. We showed championship heart, fight, and talent.
 
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It’s November… I remember people doubting Clingan’s potential this time last year too. Maybe it doesn’t pan out for all three of them, but it’s way too early in the season for that level of declaration.
Then probably a bit early for Dan Hurley to be declaring them first round talent. DC was rumored to be a first round pick after his frosh year based on playing time we saw with our own eyes. These guys played sparing minutes their freshman year. All I’m saying is that there seems to be some artificial hyping by Dan.

As for Ahmad, has a much higher ceiling than AM, just doesn’t have the reps. He feels exactly the profile we need, just young.
 
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McNeeley came through late in the 2nd half but I don't get the lack of Stewart minutes in the 2nd half after how he played in the first half
Dan Hurley was quoted in a writeup I saw after the game saying something along the lines of "Stewart was 'jumpy' in the second half" so he decided it was best to sit him out.
There was no follow-up question asking what he meant.
 
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McNeeley came through late in the 2nd half but I don't get the lack of Stewart minutes in the 2nd half after how he played in the first half
Wow, didn't realize Jaylin only played 17 minutes. That was a loud 17 minutes. 16 points on 7/9 shooting and 5 rebounds.

Liam and Jaylin shouldn't be an either or, they're two of our best players and NBA athletes. Meanwhile Diarra played 29 minutes and Mahaney played 24. They were both bad until Diarra stepped it up in OT.
 
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Dan Hurley was quoted in a writeup I saw after the game saying something along the lines of "Stewart was 'jumpy' in the second half" so he decided it was best to sit him out.
There was no follow-up question asking what he meant.
Jumpy??? WTF??
 

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