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what the hell happened this past season? thinking back a year ago today, i would say that alex and roscoe were both uconn lifers. a year later, both are gone. to me, alex's transfer makes sense. a year left, can play immediately, etc. i am ok with that. its roscoe's request that is more puzzling and far more troublesome. to simply blame the ncaa is ridiculous. something greater is going on and as a fan, not only do i hope it is resolved quickly, but i want some clarity on what the hell it was........is it just me or does roscoe leaving really sting?
 
He took real exception to Shabazz saying guys had no heart after the Marquette game. Factor in the no NCAA and playing out of position next year and it makes a little more sense.
But yeah, this one stings worse than the others because it was really unexpected. And now we're look like the worst sinking ship in the country.
 
it stings, and I don't understand it either

Alex was unhappy from his mamu moment way back in Nov

I thought Roscoe reestablished himself. Maybe he doesn't want to do that every year, maybe he's pissed, maybe he feels overlooked or under-appreciated, maybe he wants to play in the dance next year, maybe he thought he would be the one leaving early .....................................
 
I'd have a hard time thinking Bazz's comments had much relevance. The other two (postseason, playing out of position), sure -- but postgame comments after a loss should always be taken with a grain of salt. If there were larger issues between the two of them where they just simply didn't get along - then I could see it being an issue. It helps if you have a good relationship with the guy getting you the ball.
 
Shabazz and Roscoe were each other's best friend their freshmen years, don't know what their relationship is like now but like GM said, I doubt a heat of the moment comment drove Roscoe to transfer. I can't remember after which game it was(possibly Nova) but after a game in which he played most of the minutes @ the 3, Roscoe making a comment to the reporters after he had logged so many minutes there "that he was recruited here to play the 3" kind of stuck out to me because it seemed like he wasn't too pleased to be playing PF. Couple that with Duffy's twitter comments a few weeks back that he wouldn't be shocked if Roscoe left because he was very unhappy with his playing time and this doesn't surprise me. I don't really see the big deal about playing the 4, he would be required to rebound but its not like he would've been asked to play under the basket like AO & AD, Roscoe has logged plenty of minutes at the 4 here and been out on the perimeter on offense. There would be the games where he would have to defend a traditional sized big man but most schools are trotting out 3 men at the 4 anyway,
 
Can it be this:

Roscoe and JC sat down.
Roscoe said he was happy, but needed to play more time at the 3 for his future.
JC agreed, but told him to look at the roster, and to notice that he was much better suited for the 4 than Daniels or Giffey, and that playing TO and Wolf at the same time for long periods would be bad.
Roscoe said, thanks for the honesty and memory, but I can't wait until my senior year to hope I can get minutes at the 3.
 
He went from 25 to 18 minutes. The problem with Roscoe at the 3 is that he is not a very good scorer. He is a below ave. outside shooter for a three and doesn't go to the the hoop that well. He is a 3.5, not big enough for a 4 and not good enough scorer for a 3.
 
He went from 25 to 18 minutes. The problem with Roscoe at the 3 is that he is not a very good scorer. He is a below ave. outside shooter for a three and doesn't go to the the hoop that well. He is a 3.5, not big enough for a 4 and not good enough scorer for a 3.

But a terrific defender at both positions. That's where he's going to be a huge loss.
 
But a terrific defender at both positions. That's where he's going to be a huge loss.

People put way too much stock into offensive numbers when trying to evaluate players. Roscoe was/is a winner because of the defensive effort he brought every game, his intangibles and doing the dirty work on the court.

All of that stuff isn't as flashy or easy to quantify as 18ppg, but I'd argue it's more important to a team's success.
 
Roscoe was never a certified starter, receiving starter minutes. This season as was said would mean he would be slotted out of position at the 4, out of necessity. Even at the 3 spot he would be challenged by DD and one of the guards (3 guard lineup). Just maybe he wanted more certainty in his career at the 3 spot, because that is his basket future career if he is going to have a chance.

Its too bad because he had the opportunity to establish himself at the 3 but with Boat's good play the position became less and less available, so to speak. I may be wrong in my thinking but his future is as a small forward, and he doesn't have much time (and now less opportunity) to make his mark. And if that's the case, transferring makes a little sense unless he was willing to prove that he can become an AA or even all BE team at the 3 here at UConn. Based on his two year history he was more of a great role player filling in where needed, particularly on D. If he wants more then he would either have to earn it or go elsewhere.

It stings because I like Roscoe, and he would have helped minimize the problems of our transfers and declarations. But to do so he would have had to play the four most of his minutes, and that may not be something he wants for his future.
 
I don't want to make it seem like I'm repeating myself but I don't understand how Roscoe playing at the 4 would be playing out of position. You can still dribble, shoot from the perimeter, and pass from the 4, when Roscoe played there he wasn't planted under the hoop. even Tyler this year primarily operated from the high post when he played there. There will be games when you have to defend someone bigger than you but college frontcourts featuring our size or UNC/UK/KU this past year really aren't the norm, most squads have prototypical size 3 men playing the 4. Even in the NBA now you see squads going small and featuring their 3 men at the 4 spot. I don't understand what's the big deal with labels, its not like its Bazz or Boat playing at the 4, Roscoe is more than suited to play there.
 
what the hell happened this past season? thinking back a year ago today, i would say that alex and roscoe were both uconn lifers. a year later, both are gone. to me, alex's transfer makes sense. a year left, can play immediately, etc. i am ok with that. its roscoe's request that is more puzzling and far more troublesome. to simply blame the ncaa is ridiculous. something greater is going on and as a fan, not only do i hope it is resolved quickly, but i want some clarity on what the hell it was........is it just me or does roscoe leaving really sting?
Has JC lost touch with the pulse of this team? He said that Oriakhi would be the only one tranferring and then Bradley and Roscoe, probably the two you'd least expect to do so, announce they're transferring. Add to that Drummond going pro after both he and JC had been indicating that he would stay. It can't be the APR, it must be that they don't want to play for JC anymore. I really think the university needs to move on now. We can't go the next two years with a depleted roster, no top recruits and finish in the basement of the Big East all the while having a short time head coach at best. There are just to many strikes against us and we need some order restored. JC going year to year won't cut it. This isn't about JC going out on his terms, but about saving our program. Our program was really a house of cards judging by the impact the APR announcement had on this team. I guess player loyalty to the UC is a thing of the past.
 
I don't understand a player like Roscoe or Oriakhi transferring because they're suddenly tired of playing for Calhoun. Again, nobody had a gun to these kids heads forcing them to play for Calhoun. I understand sometimes it doesn't work out, but these kids both won National Championships here, in great part because of their Hall of Fame Coach. The loyalty to the guy who built the program disappoints me, and that includes the fans. The UConn ship will soon rise again, but we can't have too many more transfers.
 
Actually it's incredibly easy to argue otherwise.

Ok, argue it. Tell me what the positives are today. Tell me why someone from the outside would look at this situation and say that the program is stable. The simple fact is that the program is surrounded by uncertainty right now and we can't assume the tide will turn right away.
 
With each transfer we get a better idea of why this past years team so underachieved. Tons of differing individual agendas.
 
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