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Just noticed this on the website. How long since this was announced?
 
Waquoit said:
Just noticed this on the website. How long since this was announced?
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Back towards the end of June? --- remember, changed to accommodate those who celebrate Yom Kippur.
 
huskymedic said:
Back towards the end of June? --- remember, changed to accommodate those who celebrate Yom Kippur.
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Do you have a source for this explanation? If this is true, they're idiots. Sunset is at 7:01 in East Hartford. And many Jews don't end the holiday until dusk, which is 7:29. That really doesn't leave them much time to eat for the first time in 25 hours, change out of their suits, and get to the game. Oh well. Maybe I can convince them to show it on the big screen at the UConn Hillel during the break fast.
 
Gregory Koch said:
Do you have a source for this explanation? If this is true, they're idiots. Sunset is at 7:01 in East Hartford. And many Jews don't end the holiday until dusk, which is 7:29. That really doesn't leave them much time to eat for the first time in 25 hours, change out of their suits, and get to the game. Oh well. Maybe I can convince them to show it on the big screen at the UConn Hillel during the break fast.
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Geez - I didn't make it up dude...

"Why night time for Maryland? It’s Yom Kippur, holiest time of the year for Jewish people. Given that; UConn, it is my understanding, asked the American for a late start in observance and out of respect for Yom Kippur."

http://courantblogs.com/uconn-football/starting-times-for-two-2013-games/
 
huskymedic said:
Geez - I didn't make it up dude...

"Why night time for Maryland? It’s Yom Kippur, holiest time of the year for Jewish people. Given that; UConn, it is my understanding, asked the American for a late start in observance and out of respect for Yom Kippur."

http://courantblogs.com/uconn-football/starting-times-for-two-2013-games/
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I never accused you of making it up.... I'm just saying if they were trying to be accommodating, they did a really bad job. Of course, it's possible they didn't want to start too late, which I'm fine with. Jews are a small minority in this country, and I wouldn't expect them to accommodate our holidays. But they shouldn't claim to be accommodating when they're actually not.

That being said, I'm used to people "accommodating" Jewish people without actually being particularly helpful. So I'm frankly not surprised by this at all. Sorry if I was doubting you. I can believe they made that claim, I'm just doubting that they actually succeeded.
 
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Sorry to hijal but does anyone know what time michigan starts
 
huskymedic said:
Back towards the end of June? --- remember, changed to accommodate those who celebrate Yom Kippur.
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Oh yeah, I remember now. Like my mother likes to say, "Don't get old."
 
Gregory Koch said:
Do you have a source for this explanation? If this is true, they're idiots. Sunset is at 7:01 in East Hartford. And many Jews don't end the holiday until dusk, which is 7:29. That really doesn't leave them much time to eat for the first time in 25 hours, change out of their suits, and get to the game. Oh well. Maybe I can convince them to show it on the big screen at the UConn Hillel during the break fast.
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Think big picture...A far larger potential population will be watching the game at home. That said, I don't really think game attendees are at the top of the list in asking for a later start time.
 
I believe Maryland wanted it for the same reason.
 
whaler11 said:
I believe Maryland wanted it for the same reason.
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But it's easier to pile on the administration in the Athletic Department and call them idiots.
 
Could it be so players impacted by this can play rather than for fans?
 
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Good God. Yes, great thread. Every Jew honors every holiday exactly the same way.

I would not be at an afternoon game. I will be there for a 7:30 kickoff. I will go to some afternoon services I would skip since I'll miss concluding services, I won't start eating until 6:45 or so (and I'll live with setting up and cooking earlier) and I'll be at the game. And I would bet that I am towards the more observant end of those who are counted as Jewish in a census.

Yes, if you fully observe the holiday by all the rules you won't be there. But that is a relatively small portion of CT's Jewish population, and I'd bet a smaller proportion of UConn's Jewish donors.
 
Noon would be a better way to be respectful?

So a 730 start and a 729 sunset means they can get to their seats at 9. Right on time for many of our fans.
 
They did the right thing. Years ago, a UConn-Yale game was changed for the same reason. Because there were no lights I seem to recall that it was moved to either the day before or the day after, something like that. Fully observant Jews either won't come, will arrive a little late, or find a synagogue in East Hartford that will let them in without a ticket (never happens). But people in my group of season's ticket holders who are all Jewish will come to the 7:30 game but would not have attended a noon game. One of then is moderately observant. Personally I don't care, but my wife would shoot me if I went to a day game on Yom Kippur. Now if she wouldn't let me go to the 7:30 game, um, I wouldn't bring her diamonds on our anniversary, or some extreme punishment like that.
 
cohenzone said:
They did the right thing. Years ago, a UConn-Yale game was changed for the same reason. Because there were no lights I seem to recall that it was moved to either the day before or the day after, something like that. Fully observant Jews either won't come, will arrive a little late, or find a synagogue in East Hartford that will let them in without a ticket (never happens). But people in my group of season's ticket holders who are all Jewish will come to the 7:30 game but would not have attended a noon game. One of then is moderately observant. Personally I don't care, but my wife would shoot me if I went to a day game on Yom Kippur. Now if she wouldn't let me go to the 7:30 game, um, I wouldn't bring her diamonds on our anniversary, or some extreme punishment like that.
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Moderately Observant Jew = Cafeteria Catholic = Bourbon & Water Baptist ?
 
If I'm Jewish and fully observant I could say how come they chose a time that didn't accommodate me or I could say I am honored that they chose to respect my holiday even if they couldn't accommodate me. How we feel is probably dependent on how easy or difficult the fast was.
 
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If I'm Jewish and fully observant I could say how come they chose a time that didn't accommodate me or I could say I am honored that they chose to respect my holiday even if they couldn't accommodate me. How we feel is probably dependent on how easy or difficult the fast was.

Obviously the server thought this was an important message because it sent it twice. Or just maybe someone above likes my thinking!
 
fleudslipcon said:
If I'm Jewish and fully observant I could say how come they chose a time that didn't accommodate me or I could say I am honored that they chose to respect my holiday even if they couldn't accommodate me. How we feel is probably dependent on how easy or difficult the fast was.
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A fully observant Jew would arrive too late to tail gate and would be stuck with breaking the fast with over-priced beer and hot dogs. It's really difficult to sneak by the gate keepers with a bowl of matzo ball soup in your pants, not to mention that sneaking food in would qualify as your first sin of the new year.
 
cohenzone said:
A fully observant Jew would arrive too late to tail gate and would be stuck with breaking the fast with over-priced beer and hot dogs. It's really difficult to sneak by the gate keepers with a bowl of matzo ball soup in your pants, not to mention that sneaking food in would qualify as your first sin of the new year.
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A fully observant Jew would have exactly one minute to get from synagogue to Rentschler Field before kickoff. That's not happening. Watch it on TV while you're breaking the fast.... Oh wait, it's not on TV. Well, connect your laptop to a TV or something.
 
The push nationally now is to get rid of all religious holidays (other than Christmas). Even New York state is getting rid of days off for Jewish holidays. Personally I think it's a mistake since these days are totally different than Christian or Muslim holidays that don't explicitly forbid attendance in class, but it seems the people in power don't care about that either.
 
If someone is complaining about the football game negatively impacting their high holy day, then it sure sounds like the holy day probably isn't as important (to them) as they are making it out to be, or the football game would be an after thought while they practiced their faith. It's just a game after all.

The schools did the best they could to respect the faith of a minority of their fans both at home and in the building. The school doesn't control the fact it won't be on TV. Complaining about it makes you look like a spoiled brat.
 
It really is a First World problem. The game airing on ESPN3 is really a separate issue than start time and I'd venture a guess that the number of people who post on this site and do not have access to the game is somewhere close to 0.2%.

A bigger issue is, in the days of digital-only TV signals, how am I supposed to watch the Maryland basketball game in the parking lot of the Rentschler Field. Secondly. What if the game goes into overtime? It's going to bump into kick off. Provided we can set it up (Do the old buy-a-converter-box-and-return-it-the-next-day routine), do I invest 2 hours watching basketball and then forego the last 5 minutes to get to my seat on time? Do I risk the scorn of the Boneyard because I was one of thousands who get into the stadium late? This is are real dilemma, people!!!
 
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I think people just like to complain. Should the entire slate of college football start at 8:30 PM that day? Or maybe we should not play any games on that day at all.

They made accomodations for a small percentage of their fanbase. Good grief people.
 
Gregory Koch said:
Do you have a source for this explanation? If this is true, they're idiots. Sunset is at 7:01 in East Hartford. And many Jews don't end the holiday until dusk, which is 7:29. That really doesn't leave them much time to eat for the first time in 25 hours, change out of their suits, and get to the game. Oh well. Maybe I can convince them to show it on the big screen at the UConn Hillel during the break fast.
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Not to worry. The gentiles at The Rent won't get to their seats until 9:00pm ;-)
 
I have a weird thought, observant Jews wouldnt be fans of college football - most of the games are on Saturdays after all. And technically every Saturday is supposed to be just as important as Yom Kippur... the middle of the road American Jews just dont follow it like that. That being said, most folks go to services in the morning until about 1 pmish and any time after 3 PM would have been good enough for me.
 
Looking at the national schedule and taking into account time zones, there are only 3 games involving FBS teams that are starting later:

Marshall @ Ohio 8 ET
Western Michigan @ Northwestern (9ET = 8CT)
Oregon State @ Utah (10 ET = 8 MT)

Every other game starts earlier than 7:30 local time. UConn probably moved the game as late as they could contractually, but Hartford is relatively East in its time zone so it's barely after sunset. Not being Jewish I didn't realize the dusk to dusk interpretation, which makes it an even tighter margin. That's unfortunate, but I hope most Jewish fans will be able to attend and cheer on the Huskies to victory. For those that cannot, they have my sympathy as I know what it is like to have to miss events for family or religious priorities. It was my call (OK, sometimes "aided" by my wife) but I always felt it was the right thing.
 
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