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For those of you not familiar, Mary is a relatively recent UConn graduate, she works for Comcast Sports Net New England.
Aresco can put on pressure to get UConn in the tournament, but in the end the Presidents of the universities voted on whether to accept UConn or not!
The anger should be directed to the Universities and not Aresco!
Aresco can put on pressure to get UConn in the tournament, but in the end the Presidents of the universities voted on whether to accept UConn or not!
The anger should be directed to the Universities and not Aresco!
Yeah I agree but he should not have allowed the programs leaving a "voice" if he had any balls..........
Yeah I agree but he should not have allowed the programs leaving a "voice" if he had any balls..........
It didn't go down like this! Remember UConn made it clear that it was interested in going to the ACC if invited and up until the last second it looked like UConn was going until the ACC chose Ville. That took away any chance that the remaining schools would vote in UConn's favor. I have no proof, but I'm sure two things happened. UConn asked for a revote as universities left insisting those leaving couldn't vote. And that meant only ND, C7 USF and Cinci could be in the revote. Well Cinci is competing to go to another conference with UConn so they don't want UConn to have any additional exposure, the C7 went on record that if Ville or UConn left they would not stay and ND is a ducking Judas. So UConn was caught with no allies. Meanwhile Aresco was hamstrung and trying to get a home for the remaining 3 football schools.Ah, but those who voted against UConn from playing are leaving, so their vote should be rescinded, in my opinion. If you really think about it, those who decided to leave, so shouldn't be eligible for the Big East Tournament. Why reward someone who's quitting? I say, just leave now... BEFORE the Big East Tournament. This league is UConn, Cinci & South Florida now. They're the only loyal ones right now.
It didn't go down like this! Remember UConn made it clear that it was interested in going to the ACC if invited and up until the last second it looked like UConn was going until the ACC chose Ville. That took away any chance that the remaining schools would vote in UConn's favor. I have no proof, but I'm sure two things happened. UConn asked for a revote as universities left insisting those leaving couldn't vote. And that meant only ND, C7 USF and Cinci could be in the revote. Well Cinci is competing to go to another conference with UConn so they don't want UConn to have any additional exposure, the C7 went on record that if Ville or UConn left they would not stay and ND is a ducking Judas. So UConn was caught with no allies. Meanwhile Aresco was hamstrung and trying to get a home for the remaining 3 football schools.
Aresco had no leverage in the process.
I understood your point and agree with it. No university that announced it's attention to leave should vote. And that is what happened on the revote. But you're missing the history of events. The request by UConn for a revote took place prior to the announcement of the C7 and ND leaving. It was the last point in time a re vote could be made. So the C7 and ND were still in the conference at the time of the revote. But even if Aresco chose to take a third vote after the C7 and ND announced their departure, the result could have been worse. USF and Cinci were not going to vote for UConn because of fears that UConn could go to another conference. Aresco didn't need to have the last three universities go at each other's throats. It makes me angry to no end, that the universities, once the handwriting was on the wall, didn't just informally contact one another and let UConn play in the last year of the Big East. But they remained with their pettiness. It shows that negativity has a much greater impact than doing the "right" thing.But they are not leaving, so the league's #1 goal/priority now should be to support those remaining. Now, if UConn was leaving, then I wouldn't be saying all this. To me, any school that leaves, shouldn't have a say any more or even play in the Big East tournament themselves. And if UConn was leaving, they shouldn't have one too, but they are not. That could change, but as of right now, they are still in the Big East (or America 12). Let's just not have a Big East Tournament this year. It really makes no difference any more.
I understood your point and agree with it. No university that announced it's attention to leave should vote. And that is what happened on the revote. But you're missing the history of events. The request by UConn for a revote took place prior to the announcement of the C7 and ND leaving. It was the last point in time a re vote could be made. So the C7 and ND were still in the conference at the time of the revote. But even if Aresco chose to take a third vote after the C7 and ND announced their departure, the result could have been worse. USF and Cinci were not going to vote for UConn because of fears that UConn could go to another conference. Aresco didn't need to have the last three universities go at each other's throats. It makes me angry to no end, that the universities, once the handwriting was on the wall, didn't just informally contact one another and let UConn play in the last year of the Big East. But they remained with their pettiness. It shows that negativity has a much greater impact than doing the "right" thing.
There are two ways Cincy and USF can view things. The first is that UConn's exposure helps them for next season. The other is UConn's exposure increases the odds that UConn can leave to another conference if UConn does well in the BE tournament.I find it hard to believe that Cincy and USF would not stand with us on this issue.
I find it hard to believe that Cincy and USF would not stand with us on this issue.
I'm not arguing with you because in essence I agree with you. Just clarifying some events. When Maryland announced their intentions the C7 indicated that if either Ville or UConn left they would consider going their separate ways. ND did not reveal their hand. Ville was surprisingly chosen instead of UConn. So it was a matter of time before the C7 would follow up on their proclamation. On the CR board someone posted that GT was not in favor of going their separate way! I believe that all changed when Fox, who has recently decided to form their own version of ESPN, approached them with a relatively good contract. After the C7 made the announcement ND chose to go to the ACC!It would have shown good unity. I still think it's silly that they went through all these votes, when in the back of their heads, everyone knew they were looking for greener pastures. Pitt, Cuse, WV, Rutgers were all testing the waters & we're thinking of leaving before the original vote, same with ND & LVille just later. And the C7 already had their back up plan once they knew the others were going. So when it came time for the final vote, they all knew the break up was in the works. Silly to argue now. I just think the most appropriate thing would have been to just call off the Big East Tournament all together and end it all right now. That's just my opinion.
I'm not arguing with you because in essence I agree with you. Just clarifying some events. When Maryland announced their intentions the C7 indicated that if either Ville or UConn left they would consider going their separate ways. ND did not reveal their hand. Ville was surprisingly chosen instead of UConn. So it was a matter of time before the C7 would follow up on their proclamation. On the CR board someone posted that GT was not in favor of going their separate way! I believe that all changed when Fox, who has recently decided to form their own version of ESPN, approached them with a relatively good contract. After the C7 made the announcement ND chose to go to the ACC!
I believe in the end UConn will come out ahead of most, if not all those who have left before them. This ban from post season tournaments will be looked upon as the rallying point for UConn's future success.
Exactly. Bitter and petty. But in a few months not many people will care about it other than us weirdo UConn fanatics. It may not make too many of us happy but any success the BE schools have in the tourney will end up back in the BE coffers of which UConn will take a nice share for just sitting on the sidelines. And in this case we will know how it feels to have been SH, Rutgirls, PC, Depaul in making dough off of UConn!Not accussing you of arguing. It's all good and we're agreeing. I'm just saying everyone was looking around or making alternate plans, so during all of the votes, those voting knew there was a chance of them departing too. Hence, the votes were not made with genuine league intentions in mind by all parties. It just makes them look bitter now.
From Uconn's perspective any and everything that could have turned out badly did turn out badly other than the KO hire! But even that situation didn't help UConn because JC's announcement to retire could have been the one factor favoring Ville over UConn in the vote to the ACC!The whole situation was pretty bizzare. Like something from a Monty Python sketch.