Marinatto Q&a Video After Meeting Yesterday

[FriarJ]

Not sure if this was posted. Despite what you may think of him he seems to have integrity. He also explains that most feel that this is easy as picking up a team in Fantasy Football and it's not.

http://www.examiner.com/college-football-in-national/john-marinatto-q-a-november-1-2011-video

 

[Druken Friar]

Interesting comments regarding integrity and the difficulty of finding football opponents on short notice. I did not know that the by laws are 27 months minimum, all exits from the conference take place on June 30. Earliest WVU could leave is June 30 , 2014, same for Pitt and Syracuse.

Also thought his comment on the every man for himself panic mentality was right on the money. Syracuse and WVU may regret or at least question their move in the future, same for Nebraska and Texas A&M etc...

 

[SAMCRO]

I found his gushing over UL AD Jurich to be very interesting and even a little calculated. He refers to Jurich as his hero", "he's never lied to me", etc...

 

[SAMCRO]

Also interesting q&a at the very end when JM was asked ih he consulted the TV partners in this decision of expanding and who to add (forget the exact wording). JM replied very confidently "No, we had no discussions with our TV partners. We spoke with the leagues consultants on who we may consider, but have not talked to our TV partners about this." See Flipper, that is the correct answer.

 

[LRock34]

Not sure if this was posted. Despite what you may think of him he seems to have integrity. He also explains that most feel that this is easy as picking up a team in Fantasy Football and it's not.

http://www.examiner.com/college-football-in-national/john-marinatto-q-a-november-1-2011-video

I'm sure he's full of integrity and that's why the conference he's supposed to watch over ended up being raped in the @$$! Sadly integrity doesn't get the job done in college football. Integrity is why our Athletic Department is on the verge of being totally F&C*ED!

He's also getting a bit annoying. What fan thinks adding teams is as easy as puting together a fantasy football team? He's insulting the intelligence of Big East football fans.

 

[UCHuskies08]

I'm sure he's full of integrity and that's why the conference he's supposed to watch over ended up being raped in the @$$! Sadly integrity doesn't get the job done in college football. Integrity is why our Athletic Department is on the verge of being totally F&C*ED!

He's also getting a bit annoying. What fan thinks adding teams is as easy as puting together a fantasy football team? He's insulting the intelligence of Big East football fans.

98% of this board

 

[FriarJ]

98% of this board

exactly, I might even put it at 99%

The fact that you (LRock34) blame Marinatto for screwing over UConn, meaning he should have invited Texas and Southern Cal (and they would have of course accepted an invite to this powerhouse football conference) I guess shows me you are in the 99%. It is what it is and only about 4 posters on this entire board even comprehend that at all, which is scary.

 

[ZooCougar]

He comes across as weak, exhausted, fat, stupid and disorganized. It's no wonder that this conference has been run over and raped.

Was he really that stunned about the WVU lawsuit? Come on.

He's just a clerk. He keeps talking about "paperwork", "crossing the Is and dotting the Ts". These are all just lame excuses. If schools want in, then they will come and the clerks and the lawyers will get the paperwork done in the background.

It's just ridiculous.

And who cares about the basketball onlies? They have much less to lose than the football schools. Cry me a river.

 

[ZooCougar]

exactly, I might even put it at 99%

The fact that you (LRock34) blame Marinatto for screwing over UConn, meaning he should have invited Texas and Southern Cal (and they would have of course accepted an invite to this powerhouse football conference) I guess shows me you are in the 99%. It is what it is and only about 4 posters on this entire board even comprehend that at all, which is scary.

Nobody has said that we should have invited Texas and Southern Cal. That's just a ridiculous and flippant statement on your part.

The point is that every football playing school wants out and all of us want a soft landing for eachother. The conference is a joke as it stands today. Nobody wants the leadership and the football schools don't see the benefits of association with "heavyweights" like DePaul and Providence, which are really just a bunch of parasites at this point.

Of course you Providence knuckleheads want to hold us hostage in this shitstorm for as long as possible.

The people running the conference are total idiots when it comes to football. Marinatto and Company needed Paul Tagliabue to tell him that "rivalry adds value". Come on. Really? He can't be that stupid. It's just not possible.

 

[NutmegState]

Also interesting q&a at the very end when JM was asked ih he consulted the TV partners in this decision of expanding and who to add (forget the exact wording). JM replied very confidently "No, we had no discussions with our TV partners. We spoke with the leagues consultants on who we may consider, but have not talked to our TV partners about this." See Flipper, that is the correct answer.

"We" may not have directly spoken to our TV partners, but I'd be suprised if Notre Dame didn't speak with NBC. Remember the part about Notre Dame leading the charge on Big East expansion? And Chairing the comittee?

 

[SAMCRO]

"We" may not have directly spoken to our TV partners, but I'd be suprised if Notre Dame didn't speak with NBC. Remember the part about Notre Dame leading the charge on Big East expansion? And Chairing the comittee?

Agreed. I'm still just amazed as how stupid Flipper was in his quote to the Globe about ESPN telling the ACC wht to do (the quote that ESPN still hasn't reported in any of their media outlets).

 

[NutmegState]

Agreed. I'm still just amazed as how stupid Flipper was in his quote to the Globe about ESPN telling the ACC wht to do (the quote that ESPN still hasn't reported in any of their media outlets).

Galactically stupid.

 

[ctchamps]

Nobody has said that we should have invited Texas and Southern Cal. That's just a ridiculous and flippant statement on your part.

The point is that every football playing school wants out and all of us want a soft landing for eachother. The conference is a joke as it stands today. Nobody wants the leadership and the football schools don't see the benefits of association with "heavyweights" like DePaul and Providence, which are really just a bunch of parasites at this point.

Of course you Providence knuckleheads want to hold us hostage in this shitstorm for as long as possible.

The people running the conference are total idiots when it comes to football. Marinatto and Company needed Paul Tagliabue to tell him that "rivalry adds value". Come on. Really? He can't be that stupid. It's just not possible.

Every time you condemn the basketball schools you condemn UConn which was a bb school for most of the events you condemn.

 

[businesslawyer]

Every time you condemn the basketball schools you condemn UConn which was a bb school for most of the events you condemn.

He doesn't care when he's on a roll.

The bottom line is that the Big EAst was formed 30 years ago and the college sports world has changed rapidly in the last two years in a manner that makes what worked fine no longer work fine. Some need to blame individuals for that. Rational people simply accept that sometime things don't work out and you have to deal with it the best you can.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

After your unwelcome visit Mrs. Marinara, thank you for leaving.

 

[Druken Friar]

I've come to accept that a number of UConn fans only care about football. If that's how you feel, than the Big East sucks and the basketball schools are evil. I remember a time UConn was very thankful to be in the Big East, basketball has done pretty well. I suspect most UConn fans care more about basketball, just a hunch.

Going to a conference that has it's heart in North Carolina may not be all that. It hasn't been so great for BC.

 

[RS9999X]

The point is that every football playing school wants out .

Universities like to be upwardly mobile in their associations. That's all sports. That's academics. That's money whether from research dollars or football. That's audience. That's recognition.

as a side note: Is it easy to see why these teams needed a better class of associations? Between Pitt and SU playing the "Our recent suckage is the BE's fault" card and the academic slippage of Nebraska and SU, the football money was almost gravy

Two recent ousters from the 59-member AAU (only 4 schools were ever asked to leave)

• University of Nebraska–Lincoln (1909–2011)

Removed from the AAU. Chancellor Harvey Perlman claimed that the lack of an on-campus medical school and the AAU's disregarding of USDA-funded agricultural research in its metrics, hurt the university's performance in the association's internal ranking system.

• Syracuse University (1966-2011)

Because of a dispute over how to count non-Federal grants, Syracuse voluntarily withdrew from the AAU in 2011. university officials decided that they would leave the organization voluntarily, rather than face a vote like Nebraska's."

 

[LRock34]

exactly, I might even put it at 99%

The fact that you (LRock34) blame Marinatto for screwing over UConn, meaning he should have invited Texas and Southern Cal (and they would have of course accepted an invite to this powerhouse football conference) I guess shows me you are in the 99%. It is what it is and only about 4 posters on this entire board even comprehend that at all, which is scary.

You’re an idiot and I have serious questions about your reading comprehension. Don’t pretend to be informed about things you know nothing about. What are you a Providence fan? What in my post suggested I think he should have invited Texas and USC? What I did say however was that his integrity put the conference in hot water. His integrity prevented him from seeing blood in the water. It prevented him from understanding that a man with much lower integrity like Swafford would screw him over in 2003 and still have the balls to come back and do it again in 2011. His integrity leads him to believe that he needed to serve all parties and pitch Villanova to the football schools. His integrity kept him from raiding conferences like the MWC or going after Navy and Air Force sooner.

c'mon 1800 characters?

 

[LRock34]

exactly, I might even put it at 99%

The fact that you (LRock34) blame Marinatto for screwing over UConn, meaning he should have invited Texas and Southern Cal (and they would have of course accepted an invite to this powerhouse football conference) I guess shows me you are in the 99%. It is what it is and only about 4 posters on this entire board even comprehend that at all, which is scary.

2nd part

Why did we only add TCU? I’ll tell you why. His integrity and desire to please both the football and basketball schools as well as avoid issues with another conference. Why not add TCU, Boise, Houston and UCF a year ago? Doing so would have kept the conference together and landed a huge TV deal but his integrity kept the Big East from doing that. And don’t blame to football schools. If the football schools were able to do what they wanted, what was best, what took a bit less integrity….they would all still be members of the Big East.

This is about money, not pleasing all parties involved. Don’t insult my intelligence.

 

[Druken Friar]

BC, Miami and Virginia Tech have all seen their football and basketball programs slowly wither since joining the ACC. Changing conferences may have helped them financially, but they haven't seen a big benefit on the field.

Zero football championship games and diminishing NCCA tourney appearances. Miami and BC football have gone to pot. VT has done a bit better but they are not the dominant football school they were when they left the Big East.

Will see how Pitt and Syracuse feel about their big move in 10 years.

 

[FriarJ]

2nd part

Why did we only add TCU? I’ll tell you why. His integrity and desire to please both the football and basketball schools as well as avoid issues with another conference. Why not add TCU, Boise, Houston and UCF a year ago? Doing so would have kept the conference together and landed a huge TV deal but his integrity kept the Big East from doing that. And don’t blame to football schools. If the football schools were able to do what they wanted, what was best, what took a bit less integrity….they would all still be members of the Big East.

This is about money, not pleasing all parties involved. Don’t insult my intelligence.

Is it so hard for you to comprehend that he works for the President's of the schools? They decide who and when teams are invited, do you have any idea what he may or may not have suggested to them? Or the fact that he is dealing with President's of Higher Education pillars of integrity who blatently lie, and deceive.

Hindsight is 20/20 and yours is perfect of course. Blame game is all you have left now, for this one guy is "why our Athletic Department is on the verge of being totally F&C*ED!" The blame lies on all the schools, UConn included.

I think you should apply for his job immediately.

 

[RS9999X]

BC, Miami and Virginia Tech have all seen their football and basketball programs slowly wither since joining the ACC. Changing conferences may have helped them financially.

Will see how Pitt and Syracuse feel about their big move in 10 years.

They will be cocky SOBs like Flipper. They chose permanent mediocrity where a 2-10 season is acceptable and will collect their yearly checks as a member of the Big 5 conferences. They gave up the struggle for greatness after dismal failure this decade.

Libertarians will love this argument: Why struggle for greatness when you can be a substandard mediocrity and get the same paycheck?

Flipper's destiny: Patron Saint of All Mediocrities. Their Champion. Flipper will absolve you of all your sins.

 

[CL82]

That was interesting. After watching it, I feel like he did a better job than I did from reading quotes. It is hard to appreciate how difficult it is not to misstep fielding questions in an informal setting, after what had to be a mentally demanding meeting.

 

[freescooter]

Is it so hard for you to comprehend that he works for the President's of the schools? They decide who and when teams are invited, do you have any idea what he may or may not have suggested to them? Or the fact that he is dealing with President's of Higher Education pillars of integrity who blatently lie, and deceive.

Hindsight is 20/20 and yours is perfect of course. Blame game is all you have left now, for this one guy is "why our Athletic Department is on the verge of being totally F&C*ED!" The blame lies on all the schools, UConn included.

I think you should apply for his job immediately.

this is an argument bl and I have all the time. A conference commissioner, or any CEO, or top administrator can just follow the dictates of his board, or he can lead his board. Oh maybe not in the official flow chart, but in reality. his job is to develop the plan, find the guys who will support it, then work with them to sell it to the rest. I've seen both types. Marinatto is definitely the follower type. And in certain situations that's fine. You won't ever be remembered as a great commissioner (or CEO or City Manager or Executive director or whatever). But in certain situations it can work fine. Unfortunately it isn't fine in the Big East where some leadership and creativity were demanded.

 

[tzznandrew]

I've come to accept that a number of UConn fans only care about football. If that's how you feel, than the Big East sucks and the basketball schools are evil. I remember a time UConn was very thankful to be in the Big East, basketball has done pretty well. I suspect most UConn fans care more about basketball, just a hunch.

Going to a conference that has it's heart in North Carolina may not be all that. It hasn't been so great for BC.

Basketball is the sport I care most about by far. And that is why, right now, I think a split is a terrible decision (maybe last year, a all sports Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, WVU, Louisville, Cincy with jetsam conference would have worked).

But its also why I want them to get into the ACC. It will give stability to the whole department and help improve basketball. As for BC, and the U, you are right. But BC basketball was never terribly good in the BE, and they were in a couple of ACC title games as well as performing very well on the basketball side when they had Dudley.

As for the basketball school--I don't really blame them. All of the original BE schools have some strong histories (even if they've been weak in some cases since the early 90s). I don't like leaving the BE. In a perfect world, UConn wouldn't have to.

And if UConn gets into the ACC, I will still root for the BE over pretty much anyone (including ACC schools). I'd want to continue to play Villanova, Georgetown, PC, etc. I think that UConn has been loyal to the BE perhaps to a fault, at least compared to Syracuse, Pitt, BC, etc.