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True - but not at the sake of having a 4 that feels more like a 3 physically. Yaxel and Haugh play the 3, mobile 6'9" types - those are not easy to find. Boozer as a P4 that can shoot threes, also not easy to find.

While Reibe can shoot a three here and there, no sure that will ever be mainstay. He's got a slow release and shoots is poorly from the FT line.

Getting a really good 4 is going to be critical for next year.
I know it's not trendy in the world of analytics, but barring a legit "power" forward who can shoot 3s (which is rare as you noted) I think a legit physical power forward who rebounds and scores inside and who has that 15 foot jump shot would be awesome. I don't want a bruiser who can only score at the rim, but a guy who can pull the defender out of the paint at all would be fine.
 
Why would Cooley's contract be on PC books? He left...if anything him leaving got PC whatever buyout Gtown had to pay. PC didnt buy him out. You're not responsible for paying a guy that leaves without being fired
I have no idea. I did a pretty lazy search and the details about Cooley's PC deal were really vague. Not sure how it was structured.

"Specific buyout details tied to Cooley’s contract have not been publicly disclosed. However, given the length and annual value of the agreement, any potential separation would likely require a significant financial settlement."
 
Maybe you don't intend it, but it sure sounds like you think UConn will be shown to have missed the boat and you'll be proven right. Meaning, you'd rather be right than see UConn win
It’s obvious he’s a Uconn hater. How much more evidence do you need to see??
 
I have no idea. I did a pretty lazy search and the details about Cooley's PC deal were really vague. Not sure how it was structured.

"Specific buyout details tied to Cooley’s contract have not been publicly disclosed. However, given the length and annual value of the agreement, any potential separation would likely require a significant financial settlement."
No chance if he left on his own that they are still paying him. Unless Providence is THAT dumb.

Oh, wait
 
I have no idea. I did a pretty lazy search and the details about Cooley's PC deal were really vague. Not sure how it was structured.

"Specific buyout details tied to Cooley’s contract have not been publicly disclosed. However, given the length and annual value of the agreement, any potential separation would likely require a significant financial settlement."
I’m pretty sure that means pc getting paid by gtown. Pc prob made out well money wise. Payout by gt and English being cheaper than cooley
 
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I know it's not trendy in the world of analytics, but barring a legit "power" forward who can shoot 3s (which is rare as you noted) I think a legit physical power forward who rebounds and scores inside and who has that 15 foot jump shot would be awesome. I don't want a bruiser who can only score at the rim, but a guy who can pull the defender out of the paint at all would be fine.
Would be nice - a Tiller isn’t a bad profile, as I know you’re a KU fan. Did we pull off of Pierce? That was so not the profile.
 
dude is probably going to try to finesse a 6th season of college, apparently he's been medically cleared for weeks but has opted to sit out.


 
Any team with a losing record in their conference should automatically be excluded from being eligible for the NCAA tournament. If you have a losing record in your own conference why should you considered a contender to win the national championship?

Conference tournament games should be included in determining final conference win loss record.
 
dude is probably going to try to finesse a 6th season of college, apparently he's been medically cleared for weeks but has opted to sit out.



If I'm his next team, I'm structuring his NIL very specifically.
 
You’re entitled to your opinion. But you aren’t entitled to ignoring what the WAB computers are telling you. They are telling you that if a bubble team from a Power conference (as most bubble teams are) had played the Miami of Ohio schedule to date, the average bubble team would have been expected to lose twice. Miami losing once in their conference tourney would still have navigated its schedule with one less loss than the average bubble team would have been expected to have. Nothing I just said is an opinion, it’s all fact.
No, that's a statistical forecast, not a "fact". Maybe you should look up what those are / are not
 
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No, that's a statistical forecast, not a "fact". Maybe you should look up what those are / are not

At risk of getting into the minutiae further, the fact is that the statistical forecasts are saying these things. That is indeed a fact. He’s not saying it’s a fact that these things will happen, he’s saying it’s a fact that statistically that’s being forecasted. It’s not just someone’s opinion.
 
The MAC isn’t that bad and being undefeated and nationally ranked in a higher mid major conference definitely deserves a bid.

No one’s saying they’d be a top team in a major league but come on, they deserve a bid.
Seriously ? You're referencing the trained monkey voting polls as evidence of anything ? A team wins, they move up. A team loses, they move down. That's the extent of the intelligence in the "rankings". Good lord.
 
It's hard to say - I would also rather see a good story than an 11th SEC team, but I could be a bit biased there. Auburn has shown some ability to play up by winning at Florida and beating StJ, likely what most hinge their at large on.
And this is one of the problems with this debate. It isn't an either / or between Miami or Auburn. Put some other mid-major in that scheduled ANYONE and is rated higher. There are almost 20 such teams, including Akron.
 
The beauty of the NCAA tourney is that it gives those lower level teams (provided they took care of what they did have in front of them during their seasons) the opportunity they didn’t have before - to meet these power conference schools on an even playing field, to have the same chance as a Duke or UK or UConn to win a national championship, because they took the hand they were given and handled it well enough to earn that chance.

I miss the days of the A-10, MWC, OG CUSA (or even the early AAC?), even the Valley or occasionally the CAA all being able to get 3-4 teams in the field. Power conference consolidation has obviously killed most of that, with only the MWC hanging on as a usual multibid league. The further we drift from that playing field, the closer we get to the end of March Madness as we know it, and a tournament with just the power conference teams that won’t have the mystique, the intrigue, and most importantly the fairness traditional to this format.

Miami vs. Auburn is really an interesting test for this. Those of you arguing for Auburn, sure, the numbers in a vacuum might favor you. But that misses the nuance of what Miami’s done this season, and their numbers (thanks to literally being undefeated) aren’t too bad, either. If a team can get in with 15 losses just because they went 3-14 in Q1 thanks to their opportunities over a team that literally went undefeated, mathematically unlikely no matter what kind of schedule you play, it’s another sign that our favorite (and the best) sporting event in the country is in its death knell.
Again, despite people claiming Auburn would beat Miami by 8-9 or would also be undefeated against that schedule, nobody is really arguing for taking Auburn over Miami. How about SDSU, which is firmly on the bubble, but actually played some teams they could (and did) lose to. I'd rather reward them for playing AZ and MI and Baylor than three NAIA teams
 
And this is one of the problems with this debate. It isn't an either / or between Miami or Auburn. Put some other mid-major in that scheduled ANYONE and is rated higher. There are almost 20 such teams, including Akron.
Yet Miami still has the best resume of all those mid majors, despite their weak schedule. That's why they should be in
 
So there's a scenerio where the MAC gets 2 bids and the BE gets 3? That's why we are going to have a split
Assuming the narrative holds and Akron wins the MAC tournament. They'll spin it like any other mid major conference tournament "upset", but it won't be. Akron is the better team.
 
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Assuming the narrative holds and Akron wins the MAC tournament. They'll spin it like any other mid major conference tournament "upset", but it won't be. Akron is the better team.
What are you basing this “fact” on? They played head to head and Miami won. Akron has a better Kenpom and T rank, but Miami has a better WAB and NET. If you are going to claim it as fact that Akron is the better team, then it follows that Florida is a better team than UConn.
 
Duke, UM, AZ and Florida aren't stocked with shooters. We ran away with it in 2024 without shooting the 3 well.

There has been this prevailing thought that you need guards and shooting to win in March. Maybe that is overdone and trends are swinging, as they do in sports. Maybe it's defense, smothering shooting, owning the paint. The issue with shooters is that they're usually one dimensional, and streaky.

If shooting 3's is going to win it this year, then the Bama, Illinois and Nebraska should be going on runs.

Michigan - 71st in 3pt made, due mainly to their pace
Duke - 92
Houston - 104
Uconn - 120
Arizona - 336
Florida - 205

Top teams this year are not full of shooters. If one of those 4 teams win this year, will be proof enough that over-indexing on shooters is a dead concept and there is a movement back to owning the paint, extending defenses. I'm all for it - the shooting era is like watching paint dry. You need it, but you definitely don't sacrifice other things for it.
I'd say two things - one, until proven otherwise, the tournament is more about guards than front court players, but that doesn't imply shooting, or shooting threes. Granted, they're from quite a while ago, but even last year's UConn team suffered from teh same lack of guards and ball handling that cost them in 2000 and 2006. Second, I'd say part of the problem with teams that shoot the three is that a cold shooting night knocks you out, and playing in unfamiliar arenas or against unfamiliar opponents, especially ones that play strong defense, or just physical can cause a cold shooting night.
 
I think English needs to go, but if they finish top 5 in the league and get a bye (still possible) do they keep him around?
I haven't done my quick research recently, but I am certain English has a rather sizeable buyout from what I read in the past. I don't know the exact amount. From what people say on Friar Talk, Napolillo, the PC AD, will balk at paying that. Now the PC donors will have their say.
 
At risk of getting into the minutiae further, the fact is that the statistical forecasts are saying these things. That is indeed a fact. He’s not saying it’s a fact that these things will happen, he’s saying it’s a fact that statistically that’s being forecasted. It’s not just someone’s opinion.
Thank you. That is what I (correctly) said. What the expectation is is a fact.
 
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I'd say two things - one, until proven otherwise, the tournament is more about guards than front court players, but that doesn't imply shooting, or shooting threes. Granted, they're from quite a while ago, but even last year's UConn team suffered from teh same lack of guards and ball handling that cost them in 2000 and 2006. Second, I'd say part of the problem with teams that shoot the three is that a cold shooting night knocks you out, and playing in unfamiliar arenas or against unfamiliar opponents, especially ones that play strong defense, or just physical can cause a cold shooting night.
Well then this year will be put to the test, because of the 4 teams most are considered front runners, guards are not the strength of Duke, UM or Florida. AZ does have some strong guard play, as does Houston. We also have solid guard play. The two favored teams are both so because of their FC's.
 

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