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Message: [QUOTE="IWearShoes, post: 2637445, member: 8649"] I should have stated it more clearly. I meant it's not uncommon for seeding to not accurately reflect the disparity in two teams or even who the better team is in middle seed games. I'm talking games between seeds in the 6 to 11 range. These games often match teams that are pretty close in strength, but the pundits will act like an 11 win over a 6 is a big upset. Not really and certainly not in the case of CMU who was 27-4 entering the game and a seeding victim of a relatively weak schedule. Still 2-1 vs Top 50 and now 3-1. I am using Sagarin ratings, which I consider to be most accurate in terms of comparing teams. [/QUOTE]