Manhattan's coach to USF
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Good pick up for the league. Looks like we've replaced louisville lol
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Really good for the league. With him coming in, and the possible upgrade of Sampson at Houston, and Danny Manning at Tulsa, there has a chance to be that "middle tier" of the conference that people were looking for this year. With UConn, Memphis, Cincy, and SMU (at least while Larry Brown is still there) continuing to be good at the top, and a possible middle class of Houston, USF, Tulsa and maybe UCF, this league can improve. I actually think Temple is the wild card here. Need them to be closer to the upper class of the league for it to be truly successful.
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@nelsonmuntz - I thought you said these schools don't try? This is a good pick-up, with a system players will want to be a part of (whether or not he succeeds is a different angle).
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Masiello has beaten exactly 1 power conference opponent in 3 years at Manhattan, a win at South Carolina this year. Good for him.
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So this isn't a serious hire? USF isn't hiring a this coach because they are serious about basketball?
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What are their alternatives? Shutting the program down? How do I know if this guy is a good coach or not? A guy who had modest success at a school that is right on the cusp of mid/low major is not exactly a blockbuster hire. Maybe he will be good, maybe he won't.
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Do two three pointers by Hancock make that much of a difference?
My point is that you said no one in the bottom part of the AAC was even trying to get better. Today, between this and the Sampson hire, it seems like you've been proven wrong.
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At the very least USF will play aggressive defense next year. This is a great pick up for the league, Pitino proteges are a good bet. The two weakest coaches in this league are gone.
After the second year of the AAC contract with ESPN there is a review with a chance for a bump up in pay, I have to believe the AAC has been good enough for the pay increase.
After the second year of the AAC contract with ESPN there is a review with a chance for a bump up in pay, I have to believe the AAC has been good enough for the pay increase.
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Masiello lost in the first round but his team was impressive vs Louisville, they play the exact same style of defense.
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So what you are saying, is that its close.
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If I had to guess about 2014-15
Cincy - NCAA
SMU - NCAA
UConn - NCAA
Memphis - NCAA
Tulsa - NIT, maybe NCAA
Houston - NIT or CBI
USF
Temple
UCF
ECU
Tulane
Cincy - NCAA
SMU - NCAA
UConn - NCAA
Memphis - NCAA
Tulsa - NIT, maybe NCAA
Houston - NIT or CBI
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Definitely better depth to the league next year with SMU replacing Louisville as a top tier team assuming Brown is back. Overall year two should be an improvement over year one and year one was pretty good.
Temple will probably be terrible again, they are a curse upon us.
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Two things about USF and Houston.
USF loses Rudd, which sucks for them. But Collins is pretty darn good, and he'll be healthy. The rest of their roster was young. so they may contend for NIT and be pretty solid.
Houston, with a real coach, and their talent, might actually be an NCAA team. They get all their top contributors back...and Sampson can coach.
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I think the top of the league this year will be better than next, but I think that there won't quite the same gulf between the haves and the have-nots. Which means our Conference RPI will make the conference look better.
As for Temple....they lose Pepper, but I think Dunphy can coach, so I just don't think they'll be as bad next year as they were this year.
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So you agree, the AAC schools have no alternative but to try ... so they are trying.
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The potential for this conference is very high...
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I think it has the same potential as vintage CUSA. Cincy-Memphis-Louisville were good enough to help some older, traditional powers, and others in recruiting areas, pull in new blood. By the early 2000s, CUSA was really really good, and then it fell apart. UConn-Memphis-Cincy might be able to do the same thing.
But let's hope that all three of us get the heck out of here into P5 conferences.
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I'm the opposite...I hope we're in a stable period and can grow the conference 5-10 years.
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Nothing against Memphis, but we have zero desire to do that. I think you can understand why.
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The league is going to be better than Conference USA was, IMO. C-USA was dominated by Cincinnati.
People forget that Memphis was NIT-U until the big boys left C-USA. Calipari was underachieving with great talent long before Kentucky, that is sort of the tradition at Memphis.
Louisville wasn't the power it is now in the later Crum years (finished 12-20 and 13-19 with a few tournament bids sprinkled in) and Pitnio was took them to the NIT too.
Marquette was a regular in the NIT as well and if it wasn't for Dwyane Wade taking them to the Final 4, Tom Crean isn't at Indiana (he only had 1 other tournament win at MU).
It was definitely a perfect storm the '03-'04 and '04-'05 seasons when UNC-Charlotte, Cincinnati, Memphis, DePaul, UAB and Louisville were all tournament caliber at the same time and Marquette and St. Louis were NIT level. That was just a once in a lifetime type of season (when there was a 5-way tie for 1st place).
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^ 1997-2000 Memphis went:
16-15
17-12
13-15
15-16
We had 4 coaches in 5 years...Cal inherited a true mess.
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We had 4 coaches in 5 years...Cal inherited a true mess.
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This is the truth. The other post about Temple was uninformed. Dunphy had led Temple to 6 straight NCAA tournament appearances before this year. They were killed by injuries this past year, but as you said, lose only 1 player next year and will get 2 impact transfers. I would be surprised if Temple didn't play post-season ball next year.
I hope we get invited to the B1G asap but the conference looks better today than it did yesterday. Gotta take good news as it comes.
PS. House and Knowles will thrive with a real coach. Those guys are real talents.
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