Manhattan ThoughtZ™

[RichZ]

1. I'm disappointed in the way we played. But I'm hoping it was a 1 game glitch coming off finals. But the disturbing aspect is that our supposed best player and leader was the worst of the bunch. He's the guy we rely on to rescue us from that kind of funk, and last night, he was leading the charge into mediocrity. The stats are bad: 2 boards, 2 assists and a steal to go with his 2 points and 4 TOs. But his body language was even more alarming. There's no question that his heart and his head were not into that basketball game. We won't win many games with Jalen's head wherever it was last night. We won last night because we were lucky enough to be paired against one of a handful of teams that on its best day is still worse than us at our worst.
2. 1st half was not pretty basketball. 20 total turnovers. We had the same # of turnovers (8) as made baskets, while Manhattan had twice as many TOs as made baskets (12/6).
3. 2nd half was better, but not a whole lot.
4. We ended up with assists on 2/3 of our made baskets, which is a decent, but not great percentage. Probably would have been higher if we either shot closer to a normal percentage from 3 or simply stopped attempting threes, because kickouts to open shooters beyond the line were mostly just wasted passes.
5. 17.4% from 3? Starters were 4 of 17 (24%) which is bad enough -- but the bench was nada for 6.
6. Starters to bench comparisons were pretty bad on FT shooting, too. (14/18 vs 1/6)
7. Carlton was the only UConn player on the floor to shoot over 50% from the field.
8. Vital was by far our most productive player despite hitting only 4 of 10 from the field and 1 of 5 from 3. 8 boards and 7 steals was huge. And as much as he had the ball in his hands, 3 TOs ain't the end of the world.
9. 12 steals and 9 blocks as a team is the most encouraging thing I can take out of this game.
10. The Incident at 9:04 -- Hmmm... that reads like the title to a crime novel, but it would also be a good name for a rock band. -- No foul was called on the original contact (The short ugly white dude giving Vital a shoulder to the gonads then flipping him over) which is probably fine, as it would have negated the basket scored off the pass Vital threw an instant before being molested. But then the refs took over 5 minutes to review the ensuing brouhaha, and ended up giving meaningless, token offsetting techs to Sidney and Paulycrap. Meanwhile the Jaspers are down 15 points with 9 minutes to go, and they are dancing, laughing and partying in front of their bench. I'd like to believe that Hurley would have reamed their collective asses if our guys were behaving like that in that situation.
11. Jaspers might be the most embarrassing name for a sports team in history. Might as well call themselves the pansy-ass-wusses. When I hear the name Jasper, I think of the little old guy on the monopoly box. Either that of Bridgeport's 12 term Socialist mayor from the 30s and 40s, Jasper McLevy.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Not sure if you know much about football but there’s probably a lot of people here who wouldn’t take kindly to you bashing the name Jasper.

 

[tzznandrew]

We ended up with assists on 2/3 of our made baskets, which is a decent, but not great percentage.

I think it's pretty good.

I mean, none of Villanova, Kansas, UNC, Gonzaga, Auburn, Michigan hit that number in their games. It's the rare team that does: Tennessee did, and Nevada equaled it.

 

[Matrim55]

A+ branding with the "ThoughtZ." Top-shelf stuff there.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

1. I'm disappointed in the way we played. But I'm hoping it was a 1 game glitch coming off finals. But the disturbing aspect is that our supposed best player and leader was the worst of the bunch. He's the guy we rely on to rescue us from that kind of funk, and last night, he was leading the charge into mediocrity. The stats are bad: 2 boards, 2 assists and a steal to go with his 2 points and 4 TOs. But his body language was even more alarming. There's no question that his heart and his head were not into that basketball game. We won't win many games with Jalen's head wherever it was last night. We won last night because we were lucky enough to be paired against one of a handful of teams that on its best day is still worse than us at our worst.
2. 1st half was not pretty basketball. 20 total turnovers. We had the same # of turnovers (8) as made baskets, while Manhattan had twice as many TOs as made baskets (12/6).
3. 2nd half was better, but not a whole lot.
4. We ended up with assists on 2/3 of our made baskets, which is a decent, but not great percentage. Probably would have been higher if we either shot closer to a normal percentage from 3 or simply stopped attempting threes, because kickouts to open shooters beyond the line were mostly just wasted passes.
5. 17.4% from 3? Starters were 4 of 17 (24%) which is bad enough -- but the bench was nada for 6.
6. Starters to bench comparisons were pretty bad on FT shooting, too. (14/18 vs 1/6)
7. Carlton was the only UConn player on the floor to shoot over 50% from the field.
8. Vital was by far our most productive player despite hitting only 4 of 10 from the field and 1 of 5 from 3. 8 boards and 7 steals was huge. And as much as he had the ball in his hands, 3 TOs ain't the end of the world.
9. 12 steals and 9 blocks as a team is the most encouraging thing I can take out of this game.
10. The Incident at 9:04 -- Hmmm... that reads like the title to a crime novel, but it would also be a good name for a rock band. -- No foul was called on the original contact (The short ugly white dude giving Vital a shoulder to the gonads then flipping him over) which is probably fine, as it would have negated the basket scored off the pass Vital threw an instant before being molested. But then the refs took over 5 minutes to review the ensuing brouhaha, and ended up giving meaningless, token offsetting techs to Sidney and Paulycrap. Meanwhile the Jaspers are down 15 points with 9 minutes to go, and they are dancing, laughing and partying in front of their bench. I'd like to believe that Hurley would have reamed their collective asses if our guys were behaving like that in that situation.
11. Jaspers might be the most embarrassing name for a sports team in the history. Might as well call themselves the pansy-ass-wusses. When I hear the name Jasper, I think of the little old guy on the monopoly box. Either that of Bridgeport's 12 term Socialist mayor from the 30s and 40s, Jasper McLevy.

I remember him
He was attributed *with saying after someone complained about poor snow removal
“God put it there let God take it away” He had to be the most libertarian socialist in history.
He was mayor into the 50’s. Because I remember him being mayor . I believe he served for over 20 years.
To your point Manhattan got away with some thuggery especially against Vital.
I thought Hurley was going to go after that big kid after that obviously intentional foul.
* it was actually said by his public works director but reflected his view .

 

[mauconnfan]

As far as #11 goes ThoughtZ if we can include HS teams then I have the actual winner:

My son's HS right here in lovely WesMass the Agawam "Brownies". Is it named after a baked product, little girls who gather together prior to becoming Girls Scouts or the lovely bathrooms years ago located near construction sites.

 

[Pudge]

Erastus

Albany had the same Mayor for like 42 years. Into the 1980s. Probably far more effective than Jasper. But a bad name.

And ... his MISTRESS (well known regionally) Polly Noonan is the Grandmother of US Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

Thanks for your thoughts and educating

 

[temery]

As far as #11 goes ThoughtZ if we can include HS teams then I have the actual winner:

My son's HS right here in lovely WesMass the Agawam "Brownies". Is it named after a baked product, little girls who gather together prior to becoming Girls Scouts or the lovely bathrooms years ago located near construction sites.

Go to a Field Hockey game when there are boys on their team. A sign from the crowd a decade ago made espn - "This Year Our Brownies Have Nuts!"

 

[RichZ]

He had to be the most libertarian socialist in history.

He was mayor from 1933 to 1957
He balanced the city's budget entirely by cutting services, and kept it that way for over 20 years.
He was repeatedly elected primarily by currying the favor of the unions, but replaced the seniority system that had been the mainstay of Bridgeport's public employees promotion practices (including fire and police depts) with a merit system, and the union leadership stopped supporting him, but the members kept voting for him.
He was eventually drummed out of the American Socialist Party, and joined the Socialist Democratic Party (aka Sewer Socialists)

 

[Edward Sargent]

1. I'm disappointed in the way we played. But I'm hoping it was a 1 game glitch coming off finals. But the disturbing aspect is that our supposed best player and leader was the worst of the bunch. He's the guy we rely on to rescue us from that kind of funk, and last night, he was leading the charge into mediocrity. The stats are bad: 2 boards, 2 assists and a steal to go with his 2 points and 4 TOs. But his body language was even more alarming. There's no question that his heart and his head were not into that basketball game. We won't win many games with Jalen's head wherever it was last night. We won last night because we were lucky enough to be paired against one of a handful of teams that on its best day is still worse than us at our worst.
2. 1st half was not pretty basketball. 20 total turnovers. We had the same # of turnovers (8) as made baskets, while Manhattan had twice as many TOs as made baskets (12/6).
3. 2nd half was better, but not a whole lot.
4. We ended up with assists on 2/3 of our made baskets, which is a decent, but not great percentage. Probably would have been higher if we either shot closer to a normal percentage from 3 or simply stopped attempting threes, because kickouts to open shooters beyond the line were mostly just wasted passes.
5. 17.4% from 3? Starters were 4 of 17 (24%) which is bad enough -- but the bench was nada for 6.
6. Starters to bench comparisons were pretty bad on FT shooting, too. (14/18 vs 1/6)
7. Carlton was the only UConn player on the floor to shoot over 50% from the field.
8. Vital was by far our most productive player despite hitting only 4 of 10 from the field and 1 of 5 from 3. 8 boards and 7 steals was huge. And as much as he had the ball in his hands, 3 TOs ain't the end of the world.
9. 12 steals and 9 blocks as a team is the most encouraging thing I can take out of this game.
10. The Incident at 9:04 -- Hmmm... that reads like the title to a crime novel, but it would also be a good name for a rock band. -- No foul was called on the original contact (The short ugly white dude giving Vital a shoulder to the gonads then flipping him over) which is probably fine, as it would have negated the basket scored off the pass Vital threw an instant before being molested. But then the refs took over 5 minutes to review the ensuing brouhaha, and ended up giving meaningless, token offsetting techs to Sidney and Paulycrap. Meanwhile the Jaspers are down 15 points with 9 minutes to go, and they are dancing, laughing and partying in front of their bench. I'd like to believe that Hurley would have reamed their collective asses if our guys were behaving like that in that situation.
11. Jaspers might be the most embarrassing name for a sports team in history. Might as well call themselves the pansy-ass-wusses. When I hear the name Jasper, I think of the little old guy on the monopoly box. Either that of Bridgeport's 12 term Socialist mayor from the 30s and 40s, Jasper McLevy.

Concerning 11 no my grad school alma mater the NYU Violets is worse

 

[RichZ]

Concerning 11 no my grad school alma mater the NYU Violets is worse

I believe you're right.
Then again, on rethinking the whole thing, at least they aren't named after a fruit.

 

[dennismenace]

The Jaspers are named after a Christian Brother (Brother Jasper). He is one of the alleged inventors of the seventh inning stretch and brought baseball to Manhattan College.
The history of MLB's seventh-inning stretch


Name is nothing to be ashamed of although I agree with you on the benches antics during the ref timeout. Very surprised with Massielo as coach but that may be straightened out privately at the next practice instead of in front of the crowd. BTW, the reason they took us out of the game offensively might look familiar. Masiello was an assistant to Pitino at Louisville and that zone press was used to kick our collective asses even when we had NC championship caliber teams.

 

[RichZ]

The Jaspers are named after a Christian Brother (Brother Jasper). He is one of the alleged inventors of the seventh inning stretch and brought baseball to Manhattan College.
The history of MLB's seventh-inning stretch


Name is nothing to be ashamed of although I agree with you on the benches antics during the ref timeout. Very surprised with Massielo as coach but that may be straightened out privately at the next practice instead of in front of the crowd. BTW, the reason they took us out of the game offensively might look familiar. Masiello was an assistant to Pitino at Louisville and that zone press was used to kick our collective asses even when we had NC championship caliber teams.

Sorry, but when I hear the name Jasper, I still think of this guy...

 

[Son of Robert]

Sorry, but when I hear the name Jasper, I still think of this guy...

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He's the banker.

 

[RichZ]

He's the banker.

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